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Post by spinifex on Dec 26, 2017 14:45:38 GMT 10
nzetc.victoria.ac.nz/tm/scholarly/tei-RayWrec.htmlEver contemplated evacuating to a remote, deserted island to escape a collapsing society? Here is an account of 4 men who had their sealing ship wrecked on the Auckland isles. If you want to know what it takes to make it on one these places, reasonably well equipped but unsupported by a supply line ... this is a must read. If you wanted to sail a well equipped yacht to a place like this ... how would you prepare to survive for the long run after you arrived? Also be sure to look up the account of the same events by Thomas Musgrave available free on line at nzetc.victoria.ac.nz/tm/scholarly/tei-MusCast.html
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Post by spatial on Dec 26, 2017 20:54:55 GMT 10
I have done research for potential Aus Islands to bug out to, including some antarctic islands like Macquarie Island. Will have to read some of those accounts and see if there is anything I have not thought about. The latest Island that has sparked my interest is Clarke Island (Tasmania), 82km² , with a central plateau that is 110m above sea level and permanent water, has one resident with some ageing infrastructure. Has rabbits and good seal life, rats are a problem on those islands - but I have ways of dealing with them. Baring serious medical issues there not likely to be any sustainability problems. Will take veg and grain seed with, and plenty of fishing gear - will need a portable indoor wood burner. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarke_Island_(Tasmania)Macquarie Island, Australia, - the research station was scheduled for closure but recently got more funding and is now to remain open. The early sealers released rabbits onto the island for an alternate food source. Apparently they have now all been destroyed including cats.
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Post by spinifex on Dec 27, 2017 9:59:19 GMT 10
Yep. Definitely have a read. I've spent plenty of time working and recreating on many of South Australias smaller islands, Flinders Island in Bass Strait and a few weeks working in the Torres Strait islands. Raynals account of 20 months in the Aucklands certainly gave me plenty of new info to think about. I'm less positive about islands as evac locations than I used to be.
You might be better off re-settling to flinders Island ... the infrastructure to people ratio there seems quite favorable and the existing community is very small. Why wait? Property is cheap there and it'll give you a chance to fit in with locals and figure out how to effectively grow crops in a wet, very windy environment. If you settled in Lady Barron you could have a small boat and putter across to your preferred island any time you like (well ... weather permitting!). I kayaked across from LB to Cape Barren Island on a basic little rental unit on a calm day ... with a good small boat, and knowledge/experience to avoid smashing it up, the world is your oyster. Plenty of Cray and Abalone down there. And plenty of mutton Birds. Get a local to show you how to squeeze the oil out of them.
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Post by Joey on Dec 27, 2017 16:23:09 GMT 10
If I was going to settle on a deserted island and had time to prepare for it, the most important thing I would pack is a portable desaltinator water purifier, and enough parts/filters etc to run it for at least a year passed the amount of time I had planned to stay there. Heck I could of used one when I spent 2 weeks up at Weipa this year. Something that can run off a battery or 2 that can be recharged off a solar panel.
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Post by ziggysdad on Dec 29, 2017 10:56:47 GMT 10
I grew up on anIsland off the coast of Maine in the North Atlantic and regularly participated in survival camping trips on the smaller, more remote islands. Late Spring, Summer and Early Fall were fine - fun even with lots of berries, abundant fish/crustaceans/fowl, but there is nothing to eat (hunt, trap or fish) in Winter. Plus, you run out of fuel to burn REALLY quick - one person burning firewood 24/7 and you’ll deplete the local resources very quickly.
An efficient wood stove would be worth its weight in gold - a cord of wood can last you weeks vs days with a fireplace or fire pit.
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Post by spatial on Dec 30, 2017 9:29:28 GMT 10
I grew up on anIsland off the coast of Maine in the North Atlantic and regularly participated in survival camping trips on the smaller, more remote islands. Late Spring, Summer and Early Fall were fine - fun even with lots of berries, abundant fish/crustaceans/fowl, but there is nothing to eat (hunt, trap or fish) in Winter. Plus, you run out of fuel to burn REALLY quick - one person burning firewood 24/7 and you’ll deplete the local resources very quickly. An efficient wood stove would be worth its weight in gold - a cord of wood can last you weeks vs days with a fireplace or fire pit. True it is also a lot or work collecting firewood - it is also why I was looking at big islands with plenty of wood or seals so the fat can be used as a fuel source. If I was going to settle on a deserted island and had time to prepare for it, the most important thing I would pack is a portable desaltinator water purifier, and enough parts/filters etc to run it for at least a year passed the amount of time I had planned to stay there. Heck I could of used one when I spent 2 weeks up at Weipa this year. Something that can run off a battery or 2 that can be recharged off a solar panel. I have looked into portable desalination units. I don't have all the links anymore as it is very low priority on my bugout options. I also have a lot of water barrels. ALDI is not selling 100l water tanks for <$60. www.aldi.com.au/en/special-buys/special-buys-wed-3-january/wednesday-detail-wk01/ps/p/water-tank-kit-100l-3/Sea water with the WPO (Wave Power Only) system using wave motion pumping through the flexible tube in the water tank. From the water tank sea water flows through the flexible water pipe to the vaporizer. Solar heat with the help of parabolic mirrors concentrate the heat on th
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Post by Joey on Dec 30, 2017 19:54:21 GMT 10
Only problem with that solar setup is the limited amount of water it can process in a day. When your on a tropical beach environment (be it winter or summer) You are requiring a lot of water each day just to drink, let alone wash hands/dishes/clothes(on a rare occasion if you are there for several weeks, as salt water doesn't get soapy to be able to effectively wash clothes) And that's when it's just you alone, let alone drinking water for 2-3 people. So you will either require a decent array of these solar stills or a mechanical purifier to process the required amount of water to cover the basics
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Post by spatial on Dec 31, 2017 17:35:21 GMT 10
Or find an island with a fresh water supply, which would probably also have a supply of feral fresh meat. Clarke Island (Tasmania), 82km², with one permanent resident has plenty of fresh water. All my food storage is in 30l water barrels so can store quiet a bit from rainfall. Boiling water using wood fire and catching the steam - can also produce a fair bit of water. I have a few rolls of copper tubing in my preps. I even built an inverted dog bowl water distiller like in the images below.
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