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Post by SA Hunter on Jan 21, 2018 22:47:27 GMT 10
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blueshoes
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Post by blueshoes on Jan 22, 2018 9:30:00 GMT 10
They are close to having no water, and yet people still complain about the mayor for being "mean" and introducing restrictions, and there are people who dont care and do what they always did, anyway. SMH.
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Post by spinifex on Jan 22, 2018 16:27:15 GMT 10
... and the most selfish of all are in charge and making the rules. It would be nice if evolution/God clearly marked all psychopaths at birth with a blue nose.
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Post by spinifex on Jan 22, 2018 16:46:48 GMT 10
A friend of mine was part of the task force of senior managers (note I say managers and not Bureaucrats) set up by SA Gov during the Millenium Drought to resolve mains water supply issues. The Gov here was having a serious panic attack over impending loss of water supply for Adelaide during the record low Murray flows in the mid-late 2000's - it's said they came within 6 months of running out. Hence the crash program to build the very expensive desal plant at Stanvac. Probably Capetown will have to do the same, although they won't get one built in 90 days. They may have to resort to the other Adelaide fall back plan which was to commission tanker ships to bring in water from elsewhere.
Planning Water supplies in SA is about as insane as our power supply arrangements. SA Hunter and I live in a region with mains water supplied from a local bore field. Ground water level dropped significantly during millennium drought, we were on hard water restrictions and the 'answer' to securing our regions supply was to connect us to the Murray - 700km away - which was itself failing as a supply for Adelaide. I still wonder of the real plan was to pipe 'our' dwindling groundwater over to Adelaide if things got dire over there.
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Post by graynomad on Jan 27, 2018 6:48:32 GMT 10
"They" reckon that the next wars will be over water, that may not be literally true as we have many other BS reasons for a good war, but it will become a serious issue I think.
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Post by Beno on Jan 30, 2018 20:43:22 GMT 10
This will be a great opportunity to observe the signs and indicators of a collapsing city. it will provide valuable information on how government will react to the declining situation and what actions they choose to take. This info could possibly be translocated to many similar shtf senarios and a person with experience in observing these actions could have the jump on most others in such a situation. even if the government is remaining tight lipped about what ever the issue is keeping an eye on the key indicators of this particular situation will be valuable.
it would be good to highlight the key issues, decision points and responses by the gov and population on this thread as they are observed.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 10:50:35 GMT 10
No matter how you look at it having a sea water desalination plant for any city is a great fall back position. Rule of three says you last 3 minutes without air, 3 hours without shelter, 3 days without water, 3 week without food and 3 months without hope..... water is right up there!
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Post by Beno on Feb 6, 2018 12:49:42 GMT 10
spot on geek. lots of people see Australias desalination plants as white elephants, i see them as insurance , albeit with high premiums!
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Post by jo on Feb 6, 2018 19:54:03 GMT 10
Am friends on farcebook with someone living in the situation..... they still have rain.. they still have enough water to create grey water .... their rivers are still flowing and their springs have not run dry.... probably fake politics to scaremonger peeps into buying plastic water
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Post by SA Hunter on Feb 7, 2018 19:28:11 GMT 10
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Post by SA Hunter on Feb 7, 2018 19:31:18 GMT 10
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Post by Beno on Feb 11, 2018 13:58:21 GMT 10
i've tried to download a copy of the critical water shortages disaster plan but can only obtain the summary. apparently the plan is very detailed but why no access to it online?
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Post by spinifex on Feb 12, 2018 19:03:21 GMT 10
This will be a great opportunity to observe the signs and indicators of a collapsing city. it will provide valuable information on how government will react to the declining situation and what actions they choose to take. This info could possibly be translocated to many similar shtf senarios and a person with experience in observing these actions could have the jump on most others in such a situation. even if the government is remaining tight lipped about what ever the issue is keeping an eye on the key indicators of this particular situation will be valuable. it would be good to highlight the key issues, decision points and responses by the gov and population on this thread as they are observed. Doubt the city will collapse. There are plenty of ways to keep essential water coming in. They can bring in tanker ships if need be. (That method was on the table during the Adelaide water crisis circa 2008). What it will be is a test of how corrupt/inept south african government currently is. |
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Post by fei on Mar 3, 2018 22:27:23 GMT 10
Was reading the other day that the new South African leader is looking at doing a Zimbabwe, and forcibly removing land from white farmers, without paying any compensation!
If its true, lack of water in Cape Town may well be the least of their problems. (Would Australia / NZ / UK etc may be prepared to take a couple million white South African refugees?)
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