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Post by shinester on Jan 28, 2014 17:11:02 GMT 10
In terms of food preps, milk powder is always listed and for good reason, it's easy access to calcium, protein etc. It's not essential, it's just that milk concentrates the calcium and for most is easily digestible.
Milk powder is toted by many preppers as being very long lasting [10ish years if stored properly] but the yanks have easy access to no-fat milk powder where as we don't. For storage this is great as fat can [and does] go rancid over time and is difficult to store. I'm curious if anyone has found a source of no-fat [not skim milk] milk powder as it would be the ideal addition rather than have to replace milk powder every couple of years and more reliable [because of my lack of experience] than my experiments with waxed cheese.
Anyone seen no-fat milk powder here in Australia? [or has a better idea]
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Post by wolfstar on Jan 28, 2014 17:17:22 GMT 10
idk about the no fat milk powder, but what about unsweetened condensed milk? im not particularly sure of the storage life of normal or skim milk powder (because imho its vile stuff)but perhaps it is still a viable option?
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Post by remnantprep on Jan 28, 2014 17:18:20 GMT 10
Have seen skimmed not the other! I store full fat as I think the fat is important for brain function, but yeah it sucks that it has to be used more quickly!
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Post by pheniox17 on Jan 28, 2014 17:53:28 GMT 10
it's normally labeled as skim milk powder...
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Post by kenna on Jan 28, 2014 19:46:57 GMT 10
nonfat powdered milks and/or skim milk powders only have a short shelf life (12-18 months I believe).....UHT milk has a similar shelf life (but tastes better). How long can the Americans store their nonfat milk powders shiney? Tubes/tins of sweetened condensed milk would last 12 months but the use by date should be on the tin/tube somewhere. If the shelf life of the American brand of nonfat powdered milk is a lot longer that we can get here then maybe is would be worthwhile to order some online?
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Post by shinester on Jan 29, 2014 2:20:14 GMT 10
A good rule of thumb to follow is that the vitamins A and D will dissipate at a rate of about 20% every year if stored properly.
This is from the fat content of milk. Our bodies make Vitamin D from sunlight, not an issue if we're working the vegetables and vitamin A's a bit trickier, though many veggies have it.
2-10 years past expiry for dried milk - Some prepper sights state 25 years for dried milk if stored properly. Further: The more I look into this long term storage the more I see the assumptions made are often WELL outside dietary suggestions. Now I'm not convinced that I actually need to store milk as plenty of people don't consume dairy in normal life as is and it's an expensive source of protein and those vitamins. Instead larger varieties of dehydrated veggies and beans [protein] might be in order to cover vitamins and minerals and in general a good variety of known long term storage. I already have about 2 weeks in the cupboard at all times of my normal foods and if I were to use this up, I'm sure as hell not going to complain if I get into some of the really long term storage that I have. It may be a bit boring but nothing some herbs from the garden wouldn't fix up.
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Post by wolfstar on Jan 29, 2014 10:37:53 GMT 10
worst case scenario, buy a nanny goat  |
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Post by kenna on Jan 29, 2014 14:04:01 GMT 10
worst case scenario, buy a nanny goat It's actually not a bad idea - goats are quite tough, but need really good fencing. |
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Post by Ausprep on Jan 29, 2014 17:25:09 GMT 10
Wouldnt you want the fat come SHTF?
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Post by SA Hunter on Jan 29, 2014 18:49:13 GMT 10
worst case scenario, buy a nanny goat It's actually not a bad idea - goats are quite tough, but need really good fencing.
Or they can be tethered - we had two like that and they had collars and chains, tethered to a long stake in the back yard. When they cleared an area, we moved them - no probs.
Re the milk, go the full cream - after a few weeks in a shtf scenario we'll be needing all the goodness we can get.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2014 9:02:09 GMT 10
Guy's, Guy's, Guy's...Dose anyone read my posts?  ??  If you put full cream or light milk powder into mylar bags with O2 absorbers and store in a dark cool place, it will last over 10 years! Also did you know that you can make cheese from milk powder!  |
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Post by shinester on Jan 30, 2014 9:47:57 GMT 10
Guy's, Guy's, Guy's...Dose anyone read my posts? ?? If you put full cream or light milk powder into mylar bags with O2 absorbers and store in a dark cool place, it will last over 10 years! Also did you know that you can make cheese from milk powder! Ha, Im guessing probably not enough! It's good to know that works. My current storage 'is' full cream powdered milk though I don't have nearly enough compared to the rest of my storage. I don't suppose you've got some linkies on this subject? Wouldnt you want the fat come SHTF? Fat? ABSOLUTELY! Olive oil in the freezer is the way as it extend it's life significantly. If the grid goes down, your olive oil will still have good amount of life to it  |
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Post by wolfstar on Jan 30, 2014 15:08:39 GMT 10
just a thought, as you can get freeze dried everything else (except freeze dried water, lmao) why cant you get freeze dried milk? or is that how they make powdered milk? O.o
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Post by kenna on Jan 31, 2014 13:14:12 GMT 10
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2014 13:26:23 GMT 10
just a thought, as you can get freeze dried everything else (except freeze dried water, lmao) why cant you get freeze dried milk? or is that how they make powdered milk? O.o Yes, Wolf.. thats how they make powdered milk, by freeze drying...  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2014 13:38:29 GMT 10
Will have a look for you SS. But all I do is Buy Aldi or WW or coles powdered milk, open them and pour into Mylar bag, wipe the edge and seal with O2! The mylar bag holds 3.5kg of milk powder or 3.5 bags. Even powdered Eggs will last for years if done this way! Now fat, I put up a post about how I rendered 20kg beef fat to make lard! I then Canned the Lard which will last up to 5 years! Our bodies need the fat to get essential fatty acids for good health! That, I posted in Medical...Some time ago... 
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2014 13:46:06 GMT 10
It is very nice, bit expensive but a nice treat to have! And M&M's can be stored in Mylar...  |
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Post by wolfstar on Jan 31, 2014 13:59:02 GMT 10
Gaz, sad to say (the one real flaw of the net imo- lack of tone of voice, lol) i cant tell if youre being serious but finding the question funny, or are being sarcastic |
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Post by kenna on Jan 31, 2014 14:00:19 GMT 10
It is very nice, bit expensive but a nice treat to have! And M&M's can be stored in Mylar... No, M&M's cannot be stored in mylar.......they just..... ummm...evaporate! |
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Post by wolfstar on Jan 31, 2014 14:01:49 GMT 10
mine never seem to last long enough to store..... lol
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