norseman
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Post by norseman on Oct 22, 2018 6:22:58 GMT 10
White South Africans are facing a very ugly future any which way you look at. It seems they will never be forgiven the "sins" of their forefathers, anyway politics aside take a look at the prep these folk are undertaking. It's a youtube video of the tractor / trailer units and related gear they plan to utilise when moving to designated Safe Areas.
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Post by spatial on Oct 22, 2018 17:42:51 GMT 10
I would join them if I was back in RSA. The have a very interesting list of priority items. Very different to most prepper groups. A tractor with two wagons takes 30 people with a year supply of food. The
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Post by spinifex on Oct 22, 2018 18:45:18 GMT 10
Loud and slow moving targets, in convoy versus Govt sanctioned militias in fast toyotas with RPG's and automatic weapons.
What could possibly go wrong?
The best preparation for what they admit they are expecting is to do what Spatial did: Get out while it's still possible.
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Post by spinifex on Oct 22, 2018 18:53:30 GMT 10
This is better. Gotta love a Beaver!
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Post by milspec on Oct 23, 2018 5:29:52 GMT 10
Hmm, me too.
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Post by norseman on Oct 23, 2018 9:52:14 GMT 10
Loud and slow moving targets, in convoy versus Govt sanctioned militias in fast toyotas with RPG's and automatic weapons. What could possibly go wrong? The best preparation for what they admit they are expecting is to do what Spatial did: Get out while it's still possible. spinifex, I agree! However "Get out while it's still possible" just isn't going to happen for most Afrikaners they are essentially f****d. With not enough money, no entry entitlement to Europe, US, UK, Aus or any unsympathetic adjoining Nation State it is the perfect storm! These Afrikaners are doing what they can with what they've got and I personally admire that, it's going to get really ugly for them!
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Post by norseman on Oct 23, 2018 12:30:29 GMT 10
They have had many years to prepare. Lets hope they have used that time wisely and have the proper tools, training, tactics and leadership to defend themselves. One Afrikaner against fifty home invaders they tell me is regarded as a fair fight!
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Post by norseman on Oct 23, 2018 12:43:09 GMT 10
Sounds like a wet dream to me. I hope they have acquired the three mmm's: Machine guns Missiles Mortars Just what one needs to get the party started. I'm fairly certain they weren't as stupid as all us Aussies that handed in our guns! Everyone needs to watch last night Four Corners the GAYBEEECEEE went seriously anti-gun again!
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Post by milspec on Oct 23, 2018 17:22:34 GMT 10
You owe me a drink, Milspec. I just spat mine across the table. No problem. Worth it.
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Post by spinifex on Oct 23, 2018 17:42:46 GMT 10
Loud and slow moving targets, in convoy versus Govt sanctioned militias in fast toyotas with RPG's and automatic weapons. What could possibly go wrong? The best preparation for what they admit they are expecting is to do what Spatial did: Get out while it's still possible. spinifex, I agree! However "Get out while it's still possible" just isn't going to happen for most Afrikaners they are essentially f****d. With not enough money, no entry entitlement to Europe, US, UK, Aus or any unsympathetic adjoining Nation State it is the perfect storm! These Afrikaners are doing what they can with what they've got and I personally admire that, it's going to get really ugly for them! An absolutely valid point for sure. And IMO determined prep minded folk WILL find a way out. They'll raise the cash for airfares fly into happier places on a tourist visa and evaporate into the local population. What these latter day Voortrekkers are actually doing is conveniently placing themselves into something similar to a WW2 Warsaw Ghetto scenario. I'd be selling those tractors now and using the coin to do a bunk.
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Post by spinifex on Oct 23, 2018 17:48:50 GMT 10
They have had many years to prepare. Lets hope they have used that time wisely and have the proper tools, training, tactics and leadership to defend themselves. Once they are contained in an area it's only a matter of time. No matter what the weapon stockpile they have ... there's no-one from 'the outside' to resupply them with munitions and other essentials ... they'll end up dead heroes at best.
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Post by spinifex on Oct 23, 2018 17:53:57 GMT 10
Hmm, me too. Yup. I ate one while on holiday in Canada.
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Post by spatial on Oct 23, 2018 17:57:15 GMT 10
Loud and slow moving targets, in convoy versus Govt sanctioned militias in fast toyotas with RPG's and automatic weapons. What could possibly go wrong? The best preparation for what they admit they are expecting is to do what Spatial did: Get out while it's still possible. The South African military vary is very degraded. There is also a good possibility that RSA ends up in a civil war with many different factions. Moving in large convoy with a few hundred will be safe. Older white S. Africans all have military experience. Not that hard to raid a military base and get equipment one needs. The current gov is tatally collapsing _ hence land grabs and total loss of rule of law.
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Post by spinifex on Oct 23, 2018 18:03:36 GMT 10
It'll be so sh!t to live there it won't be worth the effort of fighting to stay. If it was fun or profitable we'd all be moving to the Congo or Zimbabwe because land is cheap there and we are super rich by their standards.
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Post by spatial on Oct 23, 2018 18:57:37 GMT 10
A few years back all the SADF transport trucks were unserviceable and they had fired all the white tradies. So the gov in its wisdom hired in Cuban mechanics as they were cheap none white and happy to move to RSA for a contract. No need to guess how that went. Theft and corruption is so rife capability is almost zero. The will steal your false teeth out of you mouth wile you are sleeping.
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Post by spinifex on Oct 24, 2018 6:52:10 GMT 10
RSA is following the path of Rhodesia/Zimbabwe.
The path of white folks in Rhodesia has been: The white population of Zimbabwe reached a peak of about 296,000 in 1975, representing just over 8% of the population. It fell to around 120,000 in 1999 and to less than 50,000 in 2002. The white population of Zimbabwe was listed as 28,732 in the 2012 census.
They had the means of shooting up disorganised enemies ... AND the benefit of a sympathetic RSA nearby for re-supply. Without the benefit of a sympathetic RSA the white population of Rhodesia would have crashed even faster.
Early leavers from RSA will be doing themselves a favour. Those that hang around believing they can keep going with their lives there will suffer the most.
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Post by spinifex on Oct 24, 2018 7:17:34 GMT 10
Once they are contained in an area it's only a matter of time. No matter what the weapon stockpile they have ... there's no-one from 'the outside' to resupply them with munitions and other essentials ... they'll end up dead heroes at best. theconversation.com/south-africas-army-is-in-steady-decline-and-nothings-being-done-to-fix-it-74712Based on the assessment of SADF capability contained in the link above, it's doubtful the SADF could contain a bunch of angry girl guides. Especially if small, trained units of these Suidlanders made pre-emptive strikes on the few air assets the SADF have. The US Marines thought the same about Somalia. They quit that theatre pretty quickly from memory. Rabbles are dangerous ... they take more casualties ... but there are so many of them it doesn't matter too much. If the aim of these suidlanders is to survive in the face of random lawlessness without interference from a belligerent government they may succeed for a while. They'll need plenty of $USD to keep buying supplies and it begs the question: where do they get that?
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Post by feralemma on Oct 24, 2018 11:04:06 GMT 10
Where are the safe zones they will be heading to? Are they in RSA or out of it? I'm wondering if Zim is now an option again, speaking to several different SA imports (all from farming areas and backgrounds) they've said that now that the Zim govt has changed and they've figured out the only way to resurrect their agricultural industry is to bring in white farmers again and are trying to attract them. Before Mugabe, Rhodesia had a booming agricultural industry that not only fed it's population it exported a large amount of what was produced. Now the population is half starving. I also wonder why they are using tractors to tow the trailers and not 6wd trucks? Those tractors have a max travel speed of 30kph if they're lucky and offer zero protection. They could move out a whole lot quicker using trucks. Lol and I love that high on the priority list of items to take is wire and pliers to fix things....farmers are the same the world over 😂
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