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Post by Keith on Oct 29, 2013 6:55:08 GMT 10
Someone recently asked me what bad experiences had I had with modern firearms that would make me prefer to rely on flintlock guns. I told them that I have not had any real bad experiences with modern firearms, I prefer flintlock muzzle-loading guns for long term wilderness living/survival because they are a very dependable, versatile arm with a good 300 year track record. There are also benefits that come with using the flintlock muzzle-loader that you don't get with a modern firearm.
The same goes for other 18th century living skills; food preserving, home made clothing, hand tools, hide tanning, primitive traps & trapping, fire lighting, making candles & grease lamps, washing, making soap, shelter construction, fence building, etc, etc. Some modern items have their place, especially when starting out, but most of the items we will come to rely on most will be Pre-Modern.
Even if you are going to survive on your own land & you are equipped with electricity & other mod cons, it is my opinion that you will still need the old equipment in order to survive long term, &, you will need the skills. Here is a list of skills that our group members strive to attain, if they do not already have them.
Woodsrunner’s Skills.
This is a list of basic skills in which I personally would expect an 18th century woodsman or woods-woman to have some experience with.
• Flint & steel fire lighting
• Wet weather fire lighting
• Fire-bow fire lighting
• Flintlock fire lighting
• Flintlock use, service & repair
• Marksmanship with either gun or bow.
• Field dressing & butchering game
• Blade sharpening
• Tomahawk throwing
• Making rawhide
• Brain tanning
• Primitive shelter construction
• How to stay warm in winter with only one blanket
• Cordage manufacture
• Moccasin construction and repair
• Sewing
• Axe and tomahawk helve making
• Fishing
• Hunting
• Evasion
• Tracking
• Reading sign
• Woods lore
• Navigation
• Primitive trap construction & trapping
• Open fire cooking
• Fireplace construction
• Clothing manufacture
• Drying meat & other foods
• Knowledge of plant tinders & preparation
• Knowledge of native foods & preparation
• Knowledge of native plants in the area and their uses for other than tinder and food.
• Scouting/Ranging.
• Basic first aid.
• Finding and treating water.
• General leather work.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2013 8:25:23 GMT 10
Some amazing skills that are simply forgotten in modern times. I've watched numerous of your videos, Keith, and it amazes me of what you can do. Especially, not only the making of moccasins, but making them at your camp. Quite impressive. I guess everything has it's benefit and drawback. I would say that the major drawback of a flintlock gun is its capacity and reload time?
Ryan
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2013 16:09:36 GMT 10
Yes, very informative Keith,
I one saw someone make a Moccasin with the sole made from an old tyre thread! They said it lasted awhile!
What do you think?
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Post by Keith on Oct 30, 2013 6:49:46 GMT 10
Some amazing skills that are simply forgotten in modern times. I've watched numerous of your videos, Keith, and it amazes me of what you can do. Especially, not only the making of moccasins, but making them at your camp. Quite impressive. I guess everything has it's benefit and drawback. I would say that the major drawback of a flintlock gun is its capacity and reload time? Ryan Actually Ryan the reload time is pretty fast if you are using a bullet board, & even faster if you use cartridges. The militia used to use cartridges for that reason, & carried them in a belly box. Keith. |
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Post by Keith on Oct 30, 2013 7:23:30 GMT 10
Yes, very informative Keith, I one saw someone make a Moccasin with the sole made from an old tyre thread! They said it lasted awhile! What do you think? I think if you are just after footwear, then it is a good idea gaz, but if you are wanting to be quiet in the bush, then you need to stick with the lighter leather soles. However, I think learning how to make moccasins before you need them is a priority. Modern boots will break down in time, & you will need to replace them. Keith. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2013 9:31:48 GMT 10
I'm sure leather is probably a little easier to work with as well, as opposed to tyre.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2013 13:52:45 GMT 10
Thanks Keith!
They use them for general foot wear, as they make thongs from the old tyre's as well!
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Post by remnantprep on Nov 2, 2013 8:27:48 GMT 10
Keith, do you feel that the sort of equipment you carry would be less of a target for raiders to take from you then modern stuff. I'm not just talking about weapons here, there would be less people with the knowledge on how to use them and therefore would be useless to them. Also you would not be carrying a huge modern pack stuffed with things that others may want from you.
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Post by bigredtomatosauce on Nov 2, 2013 9:33:29 GMT 10
Hey guys, I have no affiliation with this guy but there's a website dedicated to developing skills like these, where you can set yourself goals and post about how you're doing with them. The guy that made the site is Jack Spirco (spelling?) that runs The Survival Podcast and pretty much thinks that the skills listed there are what we should be aiming to become competent in. Go have a gander at www.13skills.com |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2013 14:42:19 GMT 10
Hey guys, I have no affiliation with this guy but there's a website dedicated to developing skills like these, where you can set yourself goals and post about how you're doing with them. The guy that made the site is Jack Spirco (spelling?) that runs The Survival Podcast and pretty much thinks that the skills listed there are what we should be aiming to become competent in. Go have a gander at www.13skills.comWhat an awesome find. Thanks for posting BRTS. |
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Post by Keith on Nov 3, 2013 8:24:09 GMT 10
Keith, do you feel that the sort of equipment you carry would be less of a target for raiders to take from you then modern stuff. I'm not just talking about weapons here, there would be less people with the knowledge on how to use them and therefore would be useless to them. Also you would not be carrying a huge modern pack stuffed with things that others may want from you. Personally I think raiders will be shooting first & checking second. Regardless, it will depend on the individuals. If they see you are carrying a load, then they will want it because they will be after food & other goodies. Once they see what is in a pack, then it is a matter of whether or not the individual sees a use for it or not. So no, in my opinion we would be just as much a target as anyone else if we were seen. Keith. |
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Post by bigredtomatosauce on Nov 3, 2013 9:51:54 GMT 10
I have attached about 20m of paracord to my BOB, with a little 1kg weight at the other end. I haven't tested it yet (I probably should). The theory is when we're done walking for the day, I can lob the weight and subsequent rope up over a tree branch and the hoist my bag up into the tree. I would hopefully have the few things I need out of it on the ground with me and in case anyone comes along, we don't have a huge bag sitting next to us full of stuff. I feel that as Keith said, they'd be shooting first then checking, but hopefully if they see we have nothing they won't just slay us for no reason.
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Post by remnantprep on Nov 4, 2013 8:33:45 GMT 10
Ok thanks! I guess people would kill even for a tin can.
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Post by fox on Nov 7, 2013 9:17:37 GMT 10
great list , very comprehensive , had not thought about a flintlock for survival ,I bow hunt as much as i can but can see the benefits of the simpler design over the modern carbine in long term use
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