UN population reports: bad news for people in 1st world
Apr 7, 2019 10:41:25 GMT 10
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Post by spinifex on Apr 7, 2019 10:41:25 GMT 10
This is an official UN report.
www.un.org/development/desa/publications/world-population-prospects-the-2017-revision.html
Well worth a read, especially for young people, if you want to be aware of what the populations of Western Europe, Russia, US, Oz, Japan, China and parts of SE Asia are going to look like in a coming decades. If you live in these places you are in for big social change if your governments choose to follow a policy of opening immigation floodgates in an attempt to sustain economies without regards to social consequences. If you enjoy the benefits of living in ANY country and ANY culture that has a low birth rate, high standard of living, sound(ish) rule of law and a relatively clean and peaceful setting be aware that your lifestyle will likely be changing. This applies as much to Japan and China as it does to Australia. We are all in the same boat.
There are also massive changes going to happen if immigration flood gates are NOT opened; so there are no comfortable ways out. It's time to choose which massive change you prefer/expect and be setting yourself up as best you can to assimilate to what will be the 'new normal'.
Also worth a read:
www.un.org/en/development/desa/population/publications/ageing/replacement-migration.asp
And key finding from that report:
The new challenges being brought about by declining and ageing populations will require objective,
thorough and comprehensive reassessments of many established economic, social and political policies
and programmes. Such reassessments will need to incorporate a long-term perspective. Critical issues to
be addressed in those reassessments include (a) appropriate ages for retirement; (b) levels, types and
nature of retirement and health-care benefits for the elderly; (c) labour-force participation; (d) assessed
amounts of contributions from workers and employers to support retirement and health-care benefits for
the increasing elderly population; and (e) policies and programmes relating to international migration, in
particular replacement migration, and the integration of large numbers of recent migrants and their
descendants.
(Spinifex interpretation: Bye-bye social safety net!)
Message to Snowflakes: As this demographic change rolls out (either way) you are going extinct. The societies that made you possible are going to change tremendously as they take on the social characteristics, norms and ultimately 'policies' of the parts of the planet where population growth is still very robust. As socio-political conditions change over the next decade you might be in for a shock if you try to protest the state of the environment, treatment of women, the treatment of ethnic minorities (of which you might BE one) or against any of the things that are currently causing the people born in oppressive locations to want to get away from them. Good luck!
Given the alternative seems to be that we are all going to be enjoying a wonderful future in our older years with un-subsidized elderly care in an economy with scarce and unaffordable labor - Good luck with that too. Anyone who doesn't have a few kids of their own to look after them will be selling their solar powered eco-villas and solar powered eco-cars (if lucky enough to own them) to pay for a pimply, unqualified teen to feed them soy paste gruel and wipe their bums for them. If we are lucky, suicide booths might be legal by 2030 and offer a viable alternative to the indignities and horrors of future aged care 'facilities'.
Message to Politicians:
FFS stop trying to prop up an economic system that is fundamentally doomed by forever increasing the number of 'consumers' living here. How about we run with a population policy that gives us a steady state that is environmentally sustainable and socio-economically survivable. Along with an employment policy that makes damn sure that everyone already here who can do productive work IS doing productive work.
www.un.org/development/desa/publications/world-population-prospects-the-2017-revision.html
Well worth a read, especially for young people, if you want to be aware of what the populations of Western Europe, Russia, US, Oz, Japan, China and parts of SE Asia are going to look like in a coming decades. If you live in these places you are in for big social change if your governments choose to follow a policy of opening immigation floodgates in an attempt to sustain economies without regards to social consequences. If you enjoy the benefits of living in ANY country and ANY culture that has a low birth rate, high standard of living, sound(ish) rule of law and a relatively clean and peaceful setting be aware that your lifestyle will likely be changing. This applies as much to Japan and China as it does to Australia. We are all in the same boat.
There are also massive changes going to happen if immigration flood gates are NOT opened; so there are no comfortable ways out. It's time to choose which massive change you prefer/expect and be setting yourself up as best you can to assimilate to what will be the 'new normal'.
Also worth a read:
www.un.org/en/development/desa/population/publications/ageing/replacement-migration.asp
And key finding from that report:
The new challenges being brought about by declining and ageing populations will require objective,
thorough and comprehensive reassessments of many established economic, social and political policies
and programmes. Such reassessments will need to incorporate a long-term perspective. Critical issues to
be addressed in those reassessments include (a) appropriate ages for retirement; (b) levels, types and
nature of retirement and health-care benefits for the elderly; (c) labour-force participation; (d) assessed
amounts of contributions from workers and employers to support retirement and health-care benefits for
the increasing elderly population; and (e) policies and programmes relating to international migration, in
particular replacement migration, and the integration of large numbers of recent migrants and their
descendants.
(Spinifex interpretation: Bye-bye social safety net!)
Message to Snowflakes: As this demographic change rolls out (either way) you are going extinct. The societies that made you possible are going to change tremendously as they take on the social characteristics, norms and ultimately 'policies' of the parts of the planet where population growth is still very robust. As socio-political conditions change over the next decade you might be in for a shock if you try to protest the state of the environment, treatment of women, the treatment of ethnic minorities (of which you might BE one) or against any of the things that are currently causing the people born in oppressive locations to want to get away from them. Good luck!
Given the alternative seems to be that we are all going to be enjoying a wonderful future in our older years with un-subsidized elderly care in an economy with scarce and unaffordable labor - Good luck with that too. Anyone who doesn't have a few kids of their own to look after them will be selling their solar powered eco-villas and solar powered eco-cars (if lucky enough to own them) to pay for a pimply, unqualified teen to feed them soy paste gruel and wipe their bums for them. If we are lucky, suicide booths might be legal by 2030 and offer a viable alternative to the indignities and horrors of future aged care 'facilities'.
Message to Politicians:
FFS stop trying to prop up an economic system that is fundamentally doomed by forever increasing the number of 'consumers' living here. How about we run with a population policy that gives us a steady state that is environmentally sustainable and socio-economically survivable. Along with an employment policy that makes damn sure that everyone already here who can do productive work IS doing productive work.
