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Post by spinifex on May 30, 2019 17:49:29 GMT 10
This is what the rushed control of a mass disease outbreak looks like. Mass killing.
This time it is Pigs ... next time ... it might be humans.
This isn't a hollywood scene and that is not CGI.
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Post by frostbite on May 30, 2019 18:00:36 GMT 10
The animal activists are going to go ballistic when they see this. And I can't say I blame them. There's gotta be a more humane way.
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Post by spinifex on May 30, 2019 19:37:25 GMT 10
This approach is so desperate to get pigs in the ground as quickly as possible that it makes me wonder if the authorities there fear the disease could mutate to being transmissible to humans. From what I read, that is very, very unlikely ... but panicked officials are capable of all kinds of madness it seems.
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Post by SA Hunter on May 31, 2019 0:13:22 GMT 10
I cried - all that bacon gone, gone, gone!!!!!
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Post by norseman on May 31, 2019 6:14:08 GMT 10
Yep! That's the China I remember! I've got some ugly dog stories if anyone has the stomach for em! Matter of fact I've got some ugly human ones if anyone has the stomach for em!
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Post by Tim Horton on Jun 1, 2019 10:17:02 GMT 10
A horrible thing to see.....
But like said, if the situation is desperate enough, many times desperate measures are required.
And quite frankly we don't know, or may never know the details of the seriousness involved.
So quite frankly I'm not going to criticize not knowing these details. And to a point glad they seem on the ball to deal with the issue.
But then we also don't know the details of whether they are ahead of the crisis, on time with measures, or behind the danger of the issue.
Again as horrible as things look, we can only hope they are on time or ahead of the crisis with what ever actions are necessary.
I hope more accurate details come to light eventually.
My 5 cents of opinion.
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Post by spinifex on Jun 1, 2019 16:59:23 GMT 10
They are behind the curve and trying to catch up. I don't even think this is just about disease containment anymore. I think it may be about disposing of all the soon to die pigs before they die in the actual piggeries and create problems for human disease outbreaks. Its rough but fast. It is a pity that they are not consuming the pigs at huge BBQ's. They are safe to eat even when infected.
Lots of people here in Oz are right now eating ILT infected chicken meat.
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Post by spatial on Jun 1, 2019 17:58:36 GMT 10
Quiet gruesome, but how do you kill them without spreading the disease, would have to put them in a gas chamber - which is not very practical and have all sorts of other environmental effects.
I would say the pigs dying of swine flue would be crueller - perhaps.
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Post by spinifex on Jun 1, 2019 19:44:47 GMT 10
Here we would put them through a race and shoot them. But its a lot slower doing it that way; even if you have a lot of races operating at the pit. The problem then becomes the dead bodies pile up below the race so there is extra work/delays in leveling the corpse heaps in the pit and/or moving the races around. Live animals in a pit effectively distribute themselves evenly. A lot of those pigs will be dying from internal injuries after falling into the pits and or thirst because I reckon it'll take many days before the pit is dozed flat.
I also note it is an unlined pit so when all those pigs decompose the juices are going to either move into the groundwater or seep out somewhere down-hill. Or if there is heavy rain it can heave the ground up like an earthquake as the pressure of decomposition gas rises to the surface of the ground. I've seen what happens to big sheep/cattle disposal pits after bush-fires (but nowhere near the size of the Chinese one in the video) ... putrefaction at that scale produces a LOT of fetid juice and gas.
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Post by Beno on Jun 2, 2019 10:11:16 GMT 10
they should use the pit to opportunistically gas them before burial. a good heavy gas that will sink to the bottom of the pit should do it. At least attempt some humane culling.
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Post by spinifex on Jun 2, 2019 17:33:01 GMT 10
I have read that in a previous disease outbreak a few years ago they were dumping fuel in the pits and burning them alive. Looks like they are still at it. Sucks to be livestock in China. There is something really wrong with the people involved in this. Those doing it and those filming it. The actual disease management benefit of this insanity is zero. I thought twice before putting this link in ... but I did to demonstrate how people are capable of extreme brutality when it is 'officially sanctioned' or thought 'necessary'. It's not a big leap from doing this to animals to liquidating multitudes of people under the right conditions. WARNING : very graphic content. www.kinderworld.org/videos/meat-industry/pigs-burned-alive-china/ |
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