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Post by spatial on Jul 1, 2019 23:02:22 GMT 10
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Post by myrrph on Jul 2, 2019 0:57:22 GMT 10
ya i saw the youtube video... sounds quite scary
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Post by frostbite on Jul 2, 2019 5:06:07 GMT 10
I wonder, in 10 years time, if people will look back to today and wish they had stocked up on food when it was so abundant and cheap.
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Post by spinifex on Jul 2, 2019 9:38:13 GMT 10
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Post by blueshoes on Jul 2, 2019 11:15:05 GMT 10
Oh man. Aaaand on that note, I need to simultaneously convince my talkative 8yo that I don't have a big stash of anything while simultaneously re-stashing the long term stuff and hiding it. Thankyou for the heads up, those numbers do not look good
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Post by myrrph on Jul 2, 2019 12:29:14 GMT 10
i think something we should consider is to start growing some basics on our own. I am testing simple hydroponics set ups (6 and 24 pod rigs) for kang kong and some other veges. I am trying out tomatoes again because the recent rains here killed the fledgling tomato plan. must remember to keep the plants that can't take the rain into the house.
Even for those of us who live in an apartment, we _can_ grow some food
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Post by frostbite on Jul 2, 2019 17:02:16 GMT 10
The third world will starve first. All those poor illiterates who regularly chant Death to the West. I won't be making any donations to famine relief or losing any sleep over it.
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Post by Joey on Jul 2, 2019 18:56:39 GMT 10
The third world will starve first. All those poor illiterates who regularly chant Death to the West. I won't be making any donations to famine relief or losing any sleep over it. Not really, because the goody tooshoos bleeding hearts will jump up and down enough here to force the government to force farmers to give X amount of their produce to said charity to send to third world countries leaving us with even less, meanwhile destroying prime farm land in favour of UN boot licking to build massive wind and solar farms
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Post by atacr on Jul 6, 2019 17:09:41 GMT 10
And meanwhile, all we ever hear about is the left banging on about "man-made climate change", whilst conveniently ignoring the role of the sun as the predominant driver of climate on this planet. Because you can tax "carbon polluters" but you can't tax the sun...
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Post by norseman on Jul 9, 2019 8:38:24 GMT 10
but you can't tax the sun... Give it time, the Green Filth will find a way!
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Post by spinifex on Jul 9, 2019 9:35:43 GMT 10
Our friends at the ATO have already been taxing the sun.
Those with solar and connected to the grid ... you have paid tax on collecting sunlight or had it added to your annual taxable income. Those who have failed to declare their 'income' from solar generation have probably also committed a tax evasion offence and will at some point be asked to pay the missing amount plus 'interest'. I heard on the radio one old couple who lost their pension because 'income' earned by having grid connected solar put them over the income threshold for qualifying.
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Post by spatial on Jul 17, 2019 18:39:51 GMT 10
There is already shortages appearing in the US, Australians are also being warned to prepare for price increases and shortage. theeconomiccollapseblog.com/
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Post by frostbite on Jul 17, 2019 18:43:07 GMT 10
I've been slowly increasing my food stores for months. The writing has been on the wall for a while.
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Post by spinifex on Jul 18, 2019 9:15:00 GMT 10
If you round up and deport the cheap illegal workforce that sustains the industry ... the vegies don't pick and pack themselves and the legit workers they get replaced with don't do it at the same cost.
Environmental laws in California are making things very hard for horticulture industry as well.
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Post by norseman on Jul 19, 2019 7:29:45 GMT 10
Eating only one meal a day or restricting all food intake to a one hour window each day is hugely beneficial to your health. It's actually easy once you break out of the three or more meals a day paradigm. Focussing on quality over quantity is also highly recommended and you can save heaps over conventional food shopping habits.
You need to be totally blind not to see the spiralling food costs particularly in the higher quality categories such as red meat and fresh veg. Most junk food categories already highly price inflated are being heavily slashed as demand dries up due to lack of discretionary spending power.
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Post by tomatoes on Jul 20, 2019 10:48:38 GMT 10
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Post by spinifex on Jul 21, 2019 8:48:55 GMT 10
Our region is currently nice and green; having had a much wetter than average May to start this years seeding program and jump-start pasture growth. However appearances are deceptive.
It was so dry from last spring through to May that the subsoils beneath the green surface are worryingly dry. June and July rain has been below average. If we have another dry spring this year, or if we get a day or two of very high, very warm wind, (both of which have become quite a frequent occurrence) grain yields will be well down. Less grain means means higher grain prices and by extension higher meat prices.
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Post by spatial on Aug 3, 2019 14:21:32 GMT 10
Australian construction industry is hitting the proverbial brick wall. It wont take much or very long for global financial systems to completely fail. Australia Housing Slump Prompts Collapse Of One Of The Nation's Largest Developerswww.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-31/australia-housing-slump-prompts-collapse-one-nations-largest-developers"Australia's construction slump is taking its toll on the major companies in the industry with one of the nation's largest developers, Ralan Group, forced into voluntary administration, according to ABC Australia. The developer has frozen billions in apartment projects, and has debts of about $500 million to its creditors.
Cement manufacturers, like Adelaide Brighton, have also felt the pain. Adelaide Brighton recently suspended its interim dividend after downgrading its profit forecast, sending its shares down 18.3% in recent trading. Similar Australian companies like Boral and CSR also saw their stocks plunge 7.8% and 6.1%, respectively, as a result. This happened one day after building approvals plunged 25.6%.
Ralan Group's administrators, Grant Thornton, said that the company has a "development pipeline of over 3,000 residential units which are in the construction or pre-sale stage as well as operating accommodation assets comprising over 600 rooms"."
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Post by SA Hunter on Aug 5, 2019 9:52:56 GMT 10
I just drove down to home from Central QLD. Could not believe how dry it was - then as we drove past all the cotton fields and irrigation, it started to dawn on me that maybe this is a small reason there are not much water flows coming down south. Crossing the darling River at Wilcannia, well, it wasn't a river, just a few stagnant water holes - Coonabarabran, no water flow through their river. Once we got into SA, especially around Peterborough, the green stuff started to appear from the ground, and yes, after 5 weeks away, home is nice and wet and green, but, home isn't the man food basket for Oz, so it's a bit of a worry. I'm with you Frosty-more food to be purchased. It can't hurt!
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Post by frostbite on Aug 5, 2019 11:54:06 GMT 10
I've just cleaned a third 200l drum that I used to store horse feed in. I'll progressively store another 100kg of rice in it, in 2kg packs that have done a 5 day tour of duty in my freezer.
Looking to buy a hand mill soon as well, so will start storing suitable grain in smaller 60l containers.
Food is currently cheap and readily available, so now is the time to stock up.
The retreat is looking dry but the river is still flowing. Still a fair amount of water in it. No upstream irrigators to worry about. 8 steers without tags are hanging around. Maybe a neighbour cut them loose to eat my grass for a while. That's a gamble, seeing as I have a butcher coming to stay there for a week soon.
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