bce1
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Post by bce1 on Oct 19, 2019 10:40:18 GMT 10
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Post by norseman on Oct 19, 2019 11:01:53 GMT 10
Nice find bce1! "This article conflates climate change with extinction. When the extinction of species is a just a natural progression in the cycle of evolution. All species and groups of species follow a sequence of origin, expansion, diversity, contraction, and finally, extinction. And that includes the human species. Like it or not, at some stage we will become extinct, and that event will be independent of climate change. In the meantime, we will adapt to the inevitable changing climate."I've been saying the above all my adult life!! What part do these scientist bullshit artists not understand??? Humans are not an exclusive life form! Neither are they excluded from the natural order of birth, life and death! Arrogant greens really need to get on board with the evolutionary main game / program!
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Post by bug on Oct 19, 2019 11:52:44 GMT 10
Interesting. We as a society are very ok with causing the extinction of other species. Not sure if it's ego/arrogance etc that seems to be in the public mindset that we somehow are invulnerable to this. One day we will go extinct. Whether it's in 100 years or 100,000 is entirely up to us.
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Post by Beno on Oct 19, 2019 14:59:01 GMT 10
Anyone who passed grade 2 would understand the basics of lifecycles and foodwebs. You keep taking options off the table from the animals and plants that rely on them then things begin to change. How much it changes and the effects this has is starting to be realised. Human activity has played a major part in destabilising these basic systems who really knows what that outcome will culminate into but i’m not confident that business as usual is the best forward planning strategy.
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Post by spinifex on Oct 19, 2019 16:34:19 GMT 10
After mass extinctions there come periods of accelerated evolution. As life gets much harder due to natural causes I'm sure thermonuclear warfare will help us balance our numbers AND promote the mutation required for new species. Nature has got it covered. It always has and it always will. Extinction rebellion ... take a Xanax.
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Post by bug on Oct 19, 2019 18:43:37 GMT 10
After mass extinctions there come periods of accelerated evolution. As life gets much harder due to natural causes I'm sure thermonuclear warfare will help us balance our numbers AND promote the mutation required for new species. Nature has got it covered. It always has and it always will. Extinction rebellion ... take a Xanax. There's no need to state ridiculous situation as an excuse to do nothing about a situation that wouldn't take many changes to fix.
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Post by frostbite on Oct 20, 2019 16:54:32 GMT 10
This is excellent news.
The planet needs a massive human cull. More the better if the big cull is primarily third worlders and the deliberately poor in the first world.
Bring it on.
On a personal note, an extra 5 degrees would make the winters at Ft Frostbite more enjoyable.
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Post by spinifex on Oct 20, 2019 17:27:35 GMT 10
After mass extinctions there come periods of accelerated evolution. As life gets much harder due to natural causes I'm sure thermonuclear warfare will help us balance our numbers AND promote the mutation required for new species. Nature has got it covered. It always has and it always will. Extinction rebellion ... take a Xanax. There's no need to state ridiculous situation as an excuse to do nothing about a situation that wouldn't take many changes to fix. Nothing ridiculous about it. Thermonuclear war is likely to be a part of the difficulties that arise resulting from climate drift. And having studied (among other things) evolutionary biology at Uni it is clear that bouts of new speciation follow bouts of extinction. evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/massextinct_04#targetText=But%20mass%20extinction%20can%20also,the%20growth%20of%20other%20branches.&targetText=By%20removing%20so%20many%20species,surviving%20lineages%20can%20evolve%20into.
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Post by bug on Oct 20, 2019 18:04:22 GMT 10
There's no need to state ridiculous situation as an excuse to do nothing about a situation that wouldn't take many changes to fix. Nothing ridiculous about it. Thermonuclear war is likely to be a part of the difficulties that arise resulting from climate drift. And having studied (among other things) evolutionary biology at Uni it is clear that bouts of new speciation follow bouts of extinction. evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/massextinct_04#targetText=But%20mass%20extinction%20can%20also,the%20growth%20of%20other%20branches.&targetText=By%20removing%20so%20many%20species,surviving%20lineages%20can%20evolve%20into. You posted that thermonuclear war would "help us". It's hard enough for preppers not to be considered crackpot without seeing stuff like that posted.
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Post by spinifex on Oct 21, 2019 13:44:33 GMT 10
Yeah. I should have said 'help the planet'. It'll be quite a trial for 'us'. But our species will choose that path rather than give up our current system voluntarily.
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Post by norseman on Oct 21, 2019 14:26:21 GMT 10
Planet Earth doesn't have a problem, she knows it's just business as usual, the human plague trying to survive on it however have some serious crap to deal with!
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Post by Tim Horton on Dec 21, 2019 7:39:41 GMT 10
To me...... Important details to keep in mind. The planet has had 5 known extinctions before.. This has happened over several billion years... Could anything, anyone have stopped it ?? How many cycles of cooling, or warming has the planet gone through in even 1 billion years ?? Lots I'm going to suspect.
The next big extinction could happen by the end of this century.. How many of us will be alive at the end of this century ??
I found a book in the library discards we recycle to free book shelves with a title like "how to make money with climate change" type of title. It was all about how to buy and sell stocks in climate change companies, and companies that did or didn't buy into climate change and strategies like that.
Essentially how to harvest money off climate change from both for or against the movement sides.
This book confirmed my thoughts on the whole of this movement pretty much since day one...
My 5 cents of opinion....
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Post by frostbite on Dec 21, 2019 8:31:03 GMT 10
Any person with an IQ above 10 (about 5% of the population) can see that the second priority of politicians (after being re-elected) is to find ways to increase taxes. What a golden egg the climate change movement is. Get the sheeple to believe the world will end very soon unless they pay more taxes, and get a petulant child with a serious mental deficiency to rally them.
My father was a smart man. He told me that 'the world is full of dumb ba$tards , which is a good thing, because us smart ba$tards can live off them'. A lesson I've passed onto my own children.
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Post by bug on Dec 21, 2019 9:28:54 GMT 10
Any person with an IQ above 10 (about 5% of the population) can see that the second priority of politicians (after being re-elected) is to find ways to increase taxes. What a golden egg the climate change movement is. Get the sheeple to believe the world will end very soon unless they pay more taxes, and get a petulant child with a serious mental deficiency to rally them. My father was a smart man. He told me that 'the world is full of dumb ba$tards , which is a good thing, because us smart ba$tards can live off them'. A lesson I've passed onto my own children. It isn't politicians highlighting climate change, it's scientists and those who understand the consequences of what is being found. Politicians are largely against doing anything meaningful about climate change, to the point that it has taken decades and thousands of protests to get some of them to even acknowledge it. Tax it? They don't even understand it.
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Post by frostbite on Dec 21, 2019 10:22:37 GMT 10
So carbon tax is a figment of my imagination?
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Post by bce1 on Dec 21, 2019 11:19:05 GMT 10
So carbon tax is a figment of my imagination? No, but it is a wholly pointless activity. A mild irritation at best. It doesn’t achieve anything - it is all smoke and mirrors The politicians think in electoral cycles. i accept some people here ‘don’t believe’ in climate change. Everyone is entitled to hold an opinion. But talk to any geologist, population biologist, meteorologist, oceanologist, atmospheric scientist, water scientist..... and you will get a consistent answer about this - the atmosphere is warming, there are major consequences, the time frames are condensing, we still don’t understand the interactions between feedback loops and we are in a world of sh!t. You don’t have to agree with them, but let’s not pretend there is any real lack of consistency among mainstream scientists on this. Im a doctor not a physical scientist - I am happy to be guided by the experts. The vaccine debate is full of the ‘Dunning-Kruger’ effect - so is climate science. Ultimately I am prepping for any situation - but climate disasters is on the list.
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Post by frostbite on Dec 21, 2019 11:46:54 GMT 10
I believe in climate change, I just don't buy the argument it's all caused by mankind. And I certainly don't believe 25m aussies can undo what 1.4 billion chinese or 1.3 billion indians do to the atmosphere.
I'm not a scientist, but I'm smart enough to realise mankind isn't going to stop climate change, so I prep accordingly.
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Post by bug on Dec 21, 2019 12:08:02 GMT 10
So carbon tax is a figment of my imagination? The carbon tax was scrapped in 7 July 2014. It ran for a whole 2 years and never really did anything.
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