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Post by spinifex on Oct 23, 2019 14:12:53 GMT 10
Criminal charges seem logical in this case. If parent strip searched their own child for suspected drug possession imagine the result ... straight onto a sex offenders registry! It's not just a 'misunderstanding' or 'oversight' when an officer of the law does that 19 times with assorted strangers.
It is certainly no defence to say "I needed a reminder on Policy/Proceedure" when the job being done is to accurately police the law. I've dome some compliance work and it was drilled into me to know the 'right' way to go about dealing with different situations.
Try getting caught with an undersized fish and getting off by saying "I wasn't sure what the size limit was". And that's just an undersized fish.
Hopefully NSW commissioner sends a really clear message in this case. I think most would agree that good police don't need deviants like that in their ranks and should weed them out at every chance.
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Post by norseman on Oct 23, 2019 14:59:56 GMT 10
Criminal charges seem logical in this case. If parent strip searched their own child for suspected drug possession imagine the result ... straight onto a sex offenders registry! It's not just a 'misunderstanding' or 'oversight' when an officer of the law does that 19 times with assorted strangers. It is certainly no defence to say "I needed a reminder on Policy/Proceedure" when the job being done is to accurately police the law. I've dome some compliance work and it was drilled into me to know the 'right' way to go about dealing with different situations. Try getting caught with an undersized fish and getting off by saying "I wasn't sure what the size limit was". And that's just an undersized fish. Hopefully NSW commissioner sends a really clear message in this case. I think most would agree that good police don't need deviants like that in their ranks and should weed them out at every chance. spinifex, Mate it's just not going to happen!
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Post by norseman on Oct 23, 2019 15:39:45 GMT 10
A police officer who inflated the quantity of drugs found on a festival patron by nearly eight times was "muddled up" and made a mistake, an inquiry has heard. The officer, who cannot be named for legal reasons, also admitted she sometimes needed to "guesstimate" the quantity of drugs found on revellers when scales were not available. She was today accused of "sloppy work" at the Law Enforcement Conduct Commission (LECC), which is investigating whether police engaged in "serious misconduct" by strip searching a 16-year-old girl at last year's Splendour in the Grass festival. Key points: The LECC has this week heard evidence of several police errors at the festival Today, it heard police errors could follow offenders for the rest of their life The officer said it was easy to get "a little bit muddled up" when doing police paperwork The officer was involved in the festival's high-profile policing operation near Byron Bay in July 2018, including the strip searching of patrons.The commission heard the officer initially recorded the details of one music fan's arrest as being in relation to two tablets in a clear bag that weighed 0.4 grams. But when she later prepared a statement of facts — which is used when an accused person faces court and is placed before a magistrate — the amount changed to 3.18 grams. The latter amount was the exact same quantity from a separate case, but the witness denied she had accidentally cut and pasted from one case to another. The officer said she would sometimes need to "guesstimate" the quantity of drugs on initial notices prepared in the field if scales weren't available. "I think in the circumstances when you're doing all these charges it's quite easy to get a little bit muddled up," she told the commission. "I've just made a mistake."........ "Just Made A Mistake" !!! "guesstimate" !!!The officer, who cannot be named for legal reasons, also admitted she sometimes needed to "guesstimate" the quantity of drugs found on revellers when scales were not available. Let's make no mistake here! There is absolutely no Legal reason why this person cannot be named!! Read more: ausprep.com/thread/5824/nsw-police-officer-power-trip?page=2#ixzz639ZGvyRt
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Post by Beno on Oct 23, 2019 15:40:40 GMT 10
Mate give it a rest eh?
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Post by norseman on Oct 23, 2019 15:47:29 GMT 10
Beno Mate you are right! I'm ending it now!!
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Post by Tim Horton on Oct 24, 2019 2:20:39 GMT 10
A bit of old history that will shed some light on how people who become police officers act. Not all, but certainly some.
Years ago my big brother was an under sheriff for a local department. Under sheriff is higher than chief deputy, lower than sheriff.
Periodically he would get called to court. The judges there would remind him to instruct his deputies about the kinds of cases they pursue that are or are not a good use of the courts time. Meaning does this officer have a grudge, issue, performance review or other agenda.
When he asked about the lawyers who choose to further these cases for the same reasons, the judges would say they would take care of that side of the issue. I also have lawyers in my family, and when they talk candidly among themselves things like a good win, loss record does go a long way to the big raise, corner office, elected position.
The world isn't too different anywhere you go.
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Post by bce1 on Oct 24, 2019 11:38:11 GMT 10
My BIL is a cop. As has been said good cops, bad cops and middling cops. Like any profession. I think that police do get jaded dealing with nasty, rude, abusive people for much of their working life and there is no way this doesn't run over onto how they interact with those that aren't. I think they do a good job in difficult circumstances. If you are a knob and work for the police you will have a much greater effect on people than if you are a knob working in an office !!
The strip searching here was obscene. The sluggish response from police management in NSW was appalling. The officer should lose his job for this. You do not strip search a kid without an adult support person ever.
BCE
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