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Post by norseman on Nov 23, 2019 6:25:24 GMT 10
I can't see your average aussie cocky being part of anything as effective as the Boer Commando. They are too busy in-fighting over stock, fences and shared roads to ever be part of anything so cohesive. And they reckon blockies are useless. Bwahaha. You would be astounded at the pettiness of my third generation sheep farming neighbours. Your average cocky up my way is too busy hiding from the banks and their neighbours who they owe money to!
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Post by bug on Nov 23, 2019 11:58:42 GMT 10
The economy is not in decline. It is however filtering out the useless trendy social crap that teachers have been trying to force on our kids. If you decided that doing gender studies, making coffee or selling 3rd world manufactured clothes that people don't need was the best way to contribute to society, there's not a lot of sympathy for you here if you are struggling. If you put in the hard yards at high school/TAFE/university doing anything from plumbing to accounting to engineering, you will almost certainly be on $100k+ after about 2 years in a job if you want it.
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Post by bug on Nov 23, 2019 12:01:48 GMT 10
What is going on is planned obsolescence imo, harking back to what norseman said about our lack of manufacturing in Australia is really worrying, the .gov has sold us out. We import cheap crap from china and assemble it here, we export good food and import inferior crap. Our reliance on growth as bce1 mentions is pivotal, our growth is centered on how much society can consume and the balance the .gov can strike it rich with their chinese counterparts, traitorclass! Yep. Keating/Howard shut down most of our steel manufacturing industry then opened the migrant floodgates creating a shortage of steel. So now it comes from China, sometimes with disasterous results. Almost impossible to get Australian made these days.
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Post by norseman on Nov 23, 2019 12:57:28 GMT 10
The economy is not in decline. It is however filtering out the useless trendy social crap that teachers have been trying to force on our kids. If you decided that doing gender studies, making coffee or selling 3rd world manufactured clothes that people don't need was the best way to contribute to society, there's not a lot of sympathy for you here if you are struggling. If you put in the hard yards at high school/TAFE/university doing anything from plumbing to accounting to engineering, you will almost certainly be on $100k+ after about 2 years in a job if you want it. bug, You've nailed it 100% mate!! It's essentially a purge of the "Useless Consumers" !!
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Post by bug on Nov 24, 2019 16:27:39 GMT 10
I'm actually pretty happy about it. I reckon about 50% of those in the construction industry have one or more investment properties. They have to if they don't wand to get ripped by tax. So what we've now got are the whinging millennials living in the investment properties of those who they are whinging about, and helping them become better off. It's gold. The next one's I'd like to see fall flat on their face are car salesmen and real estate agents. Effectively parasites that add nothing to society.
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Post by Peter on Nov 24, 2019 21:59:30 GMT 10
The next one's I'd like to see fall flat on their face are car salesmen and real estate agents. Effectively parasites that add nothing to society. Agreed. The commissions many of these people make - often for doing stuff-all, and even more often for *knowing* stuff all - are ludicrous. And it's not just car & real estate industries...
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Post by frostbite on Nov 25, 2019 4:20:35 GMT 10
Add gun salesman. The markup they add to stock is extortion. Often 500% - 1000%. What my dealer mate pays from manufacturers overseas would make you cry.
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Post by frontsight on Nov 25, 2019 22:17:45 GMT 10
Add gun salesman. The markup they add to stock is extortion. Often 500% - 1000%. What my dealer mate pays from manufacturers overseas would make you cry. They charge us so much because of the great customer support and professional advice, well at least the halfwits think so. A recent gun ad showed a "first rifle in the run k98k" for $3500 but it was a Russian captured and refurbished worth $900.... I am not sure which is worse, the dealer lied or he really didn't know.... The are a few good ones around and I only do business with them, if they don't have what I want I will import most of the parts I need myself, sometimes with a B709b. It is not just gun shop, many business owners think they know better, don't learn and don't listen, that's how the country fails. There is very little innovation neither, scientists get paid very little in Aus and there is no job security.
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Post by quietprepper on Nov 26, 2019 9:03:05 GMT 10
there definitely is a change in the wind, browse the reddit /r/Australia and r/Ausfinance and you’ll see a lot of people are waking up to the fact that our economy is barely clinging on (for now). A lot of people i talk to in real life are struggling with cost of living, growing mortgages, employment. People are beginning to be stretched thin. Australia is a generally lazy country and we let ourselves get walked all over unfortunately, but when people start missing meals we may see some trouble While yes, i agree that 90% of the people getting purged from the economy are in useless made up jobs, hocking stuff from china or selling you something you don’t need, when this group of junk peddlers all face joblessness, it can have a very real effect on the rest of us Add gun salesman. The markup they add to stock is extortion. Often 500% - 1000%. What my dealer mate pays from manufacturers overseas would make you cry. You ever accidentally look at a USA site, the prices on ammo and basic guns are ridiculous in comparison to what we pay here. The markup we get is absurd
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Post by bug on Nov 26, 2019 19:08:01 GMT 10
Add gun salesman. The markup they add to stock is extortion. Often 500% - 1000%. What my dealer mate pays from manufacturers overseas would make you cry. And the service is (with just a few exceptions) sheet. They act like they are doing you a favour by taking your money.
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Post by bug on Nov 26, 2019 19:12:11 GMT 10
Add gun salesman. The markup they add to stock is extortion. Often 500% - 1000%. What my dealer mate pays from manufacturers overseas would make you cry. They charge us so much because of the great customer support and professional advice, well at least the halfwits think so. A recent gun ad showed a "first rifle in the run k98k" for $3500 but it was a Russian captured and refurbished worth $900.... I am not sure which is worse, the dealer lied or he really didn't know.... The are a few good ones around and I only do business with them, if they don't have what I want I will import most of the parts I need myself, sometimes with a B709b. It is not just gun shop, many business owners think they know better, don't learn and don't listen, that's how the country fails. There is very little innovation neither, scientists get paid very little in Aus and there is no job security. Anyone considering becoming a scientist is advised not to. At best, some Chinese firm will want to buy your research. More likely, you'll spend most of your time trying to apply for grants. Far better off getting into construction. In a sea of worthless professions, anything construction related is booming.
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Post by frontsight on Nov 26, 2019 19:52:50 GMT 10
They charge us so much because of the great customer support and professional advice, well at least the halfwits think so. A recent gun ad showed a "first rifle in the run k98k" for $3500 but it was a Russian captured and refurbished worth $900.... I am not sure which is worse, the dealer lied or he really didn't know.... The are a few good ones around and I only do business with them, if they don't have what I want I will import most of the parts I need myself, sometimes with a B709b. It is not just gun shop, many business owners think they know better, don't learn and don't listen, that's how the country fails. There is very little innovation neither, scientists get paid very little in Aus and there is no job security. Anyone considering becoming a scientist is advised not to. At best, some Chinese firm will want to buy your research. More likely, you'll spend most of your time trying to apply for grants. Far better off getting into construction. In a sea of worthless professions, anything construction related is booming. In the past 20 years I was either a researcher or a policeman (strange mix I know), wrong professions both of them..... As for Chinese buying our tech, yeah sure, the government is not giving us enough money. At the moment I spend half my time writing useless reports and doing demo to please the powers that be instead of doing research work. A typical grad in the lab earns less than a cashier at supermarkets, this is a disgrace. I have a nuclear physicist friend who left Aus to work in a friendly country but he once said he would go to whoever who would fund his work. It is not so much the government allows our work to leak, they didn't pay for much of it at the first place! Even third world countries are putting in more and more money into research and we do nothing. In order to be shit, you don't need to get worse, just need to stay the same and let everyone to get better.
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Post by spinifex on Nov 27, 2019 19:44:21 GMT 10
Far better off getting into construction. In a sea of worthless professions, anything construction related is booming. Where is the finance for all this construction boom coming from? Who is paying for it? And how?
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Post by landy on Dec 31, 2019 17:20:54 GMT 10
Don't you hate it when you want to quote something you read on the Internet and then cant find it.
Anyway, I was reading some short stories when one of them grabbed my attention. It was set in 2039, and it was written by an Aussie about a Chinese Attack Helicopter pilot who has set out to destroy the "last two Australian tanks."
It was fiction, of course, and described the exportation of water to China. It described the new non-elected Australian prime minister as being Chinese, and the Australian militia were reduced to kids. Insurgent kids were all that remained.
Kind of chilling to read, and I recall thinking: 'Hope you're wrong, Bud.'
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Post by SA Hunter on Dec 31, 2019 21:31:36 GMT 10
Don't you hate it when you want to quote something you read on the Internet and then cant find it. Anyway, I was reading some short stories when one of them grabbed my attention. It was set in 2039, and it was written by an Aussie about a Chinese Attack Helicopter pilot who has set out to destroy the "last two Australian tanks." It was fiction, of course, and described the exportation of water to China. It described the new non-elected Australian prime minister as being Chinese, and the Australian militia were reduced to kids. Insurgent kids were all that remained. Kind of chilling to read, and I recall thinking: 'Hope you're wrong, Bud.' If you find the name of the story, let us know - be an interesting read. Not unless the mongrel CCP have influenced the internet providers and had it removed!
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Post by bug on Jan 1, 2020 13:10:50 GMT 10
Don't you hate it when you want to quote something you read on the Internet and then cant find it. Anyway, I was reading some short stories when one of them grabbed my attention. It was set in 2039, and it was written by an Aussie about a Chinese Attack Helicopter pilot who has set out to destroy the "last two Australian tanks." It was fiction, of course, and described the exportation of water to China. It described the new non-elected Australian prime minister as being Chinese, and the Australian militia were reduced to kids. Insurgent kids were all that remained. Kind of chilling to read, and I recall thinking: 'Hope you're wrong, Bud.' If you find the name of the story, let us know - be an interesting read. Not unless the mongrel CCP have influenced the internet providers and had it removed! This is the one thing that both Google and Wikipedia are good for. Neither accepted the CCPs censorship. They were banned in PRC because of it.
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Post by landy on Jan 1, 2020 13:20:02 GMT 10
Okay. Found where it was. It was a writing contest. The writer has removed it replacing it with a full stop. He says he had to do that because it's due for publication soon.
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Post by bug on Jan 1, 2020 13:29:57 GMT 10
Australia and PRC already have a brewing territorial dispute. China does not recognise Australian Antarctic Territory and has built bases there. Because of the Antarctic treaty we were obliged to allow them to do it. Eventually the treaty will end/be broken. China will want to fish and mine in Australian territory and will claim they don't recognise Australian jurisdiction. Does anyone seriously think we will stand up to them?
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Post by landy on Jan 1, 2020 13:37:25 GMT 10
Australia and PRC already have a brewing territorial dispute. China does not recognise Australian Antarctic Territory and has built bases there. Because of the Antarctic treaty we were obliged to allow them to do it. Eventually the treaty will end/be broken. China will want to fish and mine in Australian territory and will claim they don't recognise Australian jurisdiction. Does anyone seriously think we will stand up to them? I don't know much about it, but it seems they are very interested in buying everything. No need to wage war on a nation if it can be bought.
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Post by norseman on Jan 1, 2020 14:56:18 GMT 10
Australia and PRC already have a brewing territorial dispute. China does not recognise Australian Antarctic Territory and has built bases there. Because of the Antarctic treaty we were obliged to allow them to do it. Eventually the treaty will end/be broken. China will want to fish and mine in Australian territory and will claim they don't recognise Australian jurisdiction. Does anyone seriously think we will stand up to them? I don't know much about it, but it seems they are very interested in buying everything. No need to wage war on a nation if it can be bought. The Fifth Column AKA Australian Parliament and Commonwealth Public Service will provide massive assistance to Chinese Interests because they are not as dumb as we all think! The booboocrats know who their paymasters are!
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