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Post by krull68 on Sept 19, 2014 11:05:57 GMT 10
Dude, stay away from rail lines!! and for that matter, stay away from the high power line tracks as well. when shtf that is probably two ways people will think to get out, which means, more chance of looters, robbers etc.
Find as many different small routes out of town (if you live in town that is) that you can, stay away from all "high speed links" free ways, motor ways, high ways, toll ways, etc.
If you do some simple study, you will find that there are multiple ways out of town and you will never have to get on a numbered road. Start thinking, "SAFEST" way out, not just the quickest.
Also, if possible, start thinking about moving to an outer suburb.
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Post by stevem on Sept 19, 2014 21:12:19 GMT 10
My BOV and it has a lot off modifications as well
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Post by Ammo9 on Sept 19, 2014 21:58:19 GMT 10
When I win the lottery I'm buying two milspec bushmaster pmv's
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Post by phill on Sept 20, 2014 9:57:25 GMT 10
Got my old Landcruiser, the diesel motor will run on even dirty diesel, non common rail and no EFI. The 1HZ motor is one of the most highly produced motors Toyota built so they are everywhere. Can even bypass the the electric solenoid on the fuel pump if you have no battery.
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Post by SM+? on Sept 20, 2014 10:21:05 GMT 10
Dude, stay away from rail lines!! and for that matter, stay away from the high power line tracks as well. when shtf that is probably two ways people will think to get out, which means, more chance of looters, robbers etc. Find as many different small routes out of town (if you live in town that is) that you can, stay away from all "high speed links" free ways, motor ways, high ways, toll ways, etc. If you do some simple study, you will find that there are multiple ways out of town and you will never have to get on a numbered road. Start thinking, "SAFEST" way out, not just the quickest. Also, if possible, start thinking about moving to an outer suburb. Ok good point, I'll look into it. I live in the outer suburbs of town and the only other way I could get out of town is by sea, the Darwin river is not far from where I live and if needed I can go there. I'm skilled at building but I also have a mate who has a sail boat that he's said I could use as he won't be leaving his block, he knows I don't have transport so even if I can't get my wagon done I can use the boat. Also if we have to bug out we'll be bugging out at night so there shouldn't be to many people on the roads.
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Post by krull68 on Sept 20, 2014 12:38:18 GMT 10
Just for you SM+? www.customwagonwheels.com/mormon-hand-cart.htmlHere is a good base idea for a hand cart, for those having to bug out on foot. obviously you would build it with light weight modern materials, you should add a shoulder harness as well, it takes weight off the hands, and increases the load and distance you can carry. Also you can add straps to the sides for a second or third person to assist with up hills etc. plus if you do it right, you have a ready made bed.
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Post by krull68 on Sept 20, 2014 12:41:50 GMT 10
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Post by SM+? on Sept 22, 2014 15:03:13 GMT 10
Thanks krull and yea the wagon will be a cross between the old wooden wagon and the lil garden wagons and the size is about half way in between, it will also have a canopy on it for rain and sun protection. I also planed on using box steel for the frame as it's light and motor bike or car wheels too, unless you have a better idea ? Any suggestions will help.
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Post by bigriver on Sept 22, 2014 15:57:39 GMT 10
There is a lot to learn from the early pioneers of Australia who travelled from town to town and survived the hardships with their whole family, one of the ways they travelled was to push a wheelbarrow often over a hundred kilometres in the hope that they would find work at new mining camps. Wheelbarrow Way (Mareeba to Chillagoe – 140km) www.greatwheelbarrowrace.com/historyLate in the 1800’s when work was scarce and transportation was limited, miners often used to travel about the region using a wheelbarrow to carry all of their possessions. In 2004, as a tribute to these early pioneers and to honour their amazing trail-blazing feats, the road between Mareeba and Chillagoe was named the Wheelbarrow Way. The following quote from a Mr Peel, an early settler in Chillagoe captures the essence of the spirit that is being celebrated with the development of the Wheelbarrow Way. “Dad pushed a wheelbarrow in which were stacked all our belongings. A few pieces of iron which would be used as a shelter, maybe some hessian, a spade, a lantern, a few kitchen things and very little else. Mum and the children walked behind, Mum usually with babe in arms.” and from goldnet.com www.gold-net.com.au/archivemagazines/dec99/16001145.htmlDuring the great gold rushes in Western Australia of the 1890's transport was always a problem. Lucky prospectors had horses, some even had horses and carts, while some clever men utilised camels to cover the vast, arid distances. In a land where water was scarcer than gold most men walked, relying on their own two legs rather than have the trouble of finding water and fodder in a country that had never known the tread hoofs. Relying on just two legs and a strong back limits the amount of food and water one can carry to ensure survival in a hostile land. Enter the Wheelbarrow. With just a single wheel and two shafts the wheel barrow easily tripled the amount of gear a man could transport into the wilderness. It was an ideal mode of transport for the times. It could carry a good load, it didn't bite kick or spit, and it didn't require food or water. Wheelbarrows were pushed from one end of the vast state of Western Australia to the other. This simple device helped to open up huge tracts of gold bearing country much earlier than would otherwise have been possible. Barrows were used to carry supplies of food, water, and equipment out to new goldfields, and carry back the gold. And in a time when epic wheelbarrow journeys were commonplace one man stood out from the crowd. Balzano so captured the imagination of the people of the time his feats are still remembered and celebrated today. Little is known of Balzanos background and he has never been known by any other name. Barrows and other Forms of Transport - Click to enlarge Balzano pushed a record distance for a loaded wheelbarrow. A typical load would include a bag of flour, a five gallon drum of water, sugar, tea, baking powder, tinned meat, bacon plus clothes and mining and camping equipment such as picks, shovels, and gold pans. For six long months Balzano pushed a load such as the one above on the "pennyweight" trail; so called because of the small un-payable finds along the way. He covered an incredible 546 miles through the desert goldfields of Western Australia. History doesn't seem to have recorded whether Balzano ever found the bonanza he pursued but he became a legend in a land where incredible deeds were commonplace. Another wheelbarrow pushing prospector, Russian Jack, pushed his place into history when he started out in the Kimberly's with his own load. Along the way he picked up the loads of two other distressed prospectors and finished up with a dying man and his swag on top of that. These days Russian Jack would be awarded a medal for such a feat. In those days a simple word of thanks and a hand shake were the most reward any one got, or wanted. Typical W.A. Goldfield Forbidding Terrain - Click to enlarge Balzano is remembered every year in the Western Australian gold city of Kalgoorlie when a wheelbarrow race is held in his honour. Participants must push a loaded wheelbarrow from Kanowna, nineteen kilometres east of Kalgoorlie, to Kalgoorlie then down Hannan Street to finish at Centennial Park by the council offices. This is considered a great feat today but would have been a walk in the park for the old timers who pushed the barrow just to stay alive. A wheelbarrow such as the one these men pushed can be seen today in the Kalgoorlie Museum. It is made from bush timber, tied together with wire, leather, and rope, it doesn't look as if it would survive a hundred yard dash. Like the men who pushed it, this relic of the glory days gone by is tough and resilient, a simple, silent memorial to the men who were tougher than the land they strode. www.gold-net.com.au/archivemagazines/dec99/16001145.html
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Post by SM+? on Sept 22, 2014 16:12:46 GMT 10
The wagon I'm building will have 4 wheels, I did think about doing a 2 wheeler but opted for the 4 wheels because it's safer for my son.
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Post by krull68 on Sept 22, 2014 17:32:34 GMT 10
Hi SM+?,
My suggestion would be aluminium box, with prefab corner/joiners, cheaper, lighter, readily available, and once you push them together, a quick drill and you can either screw them or rivet them together for a tight finish. plus aluminium does not rust. most metal places have them, and I believe Bunnings how stocks them.
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Post by SM+? on Sept 22, 2014 17:51:52 GMT 10
Ok thanks I'll look into that for the other wagon, I have the 1st half done now. I will be doing 2 wagons as I will want to travel as far as I can as quickly as I can so 1 will have peddles and a small motor that will run on solar power.
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Post by phill on Sept 22, 2014 17:57:04 GMT 10
Always wondered about an electric pedal bike with a cart behind and solar panels to recharge it when needed. Ride till power goes continue with pedal power till a good spot to stop is found, rest up for a day, recharge and move on. Just a thought
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Post by SM+? on Sept 22, 2014 18:14:22 GMT 10
That's kind of the plan, I'll pedal by day as much as I can and use the batteries at night, I was also thinking about an inverter so the batteries will also charge while I pedal.
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Post by SM+? on Sept 26, 2014 11:00:55 GMT 10
I've decided that my BOV will be a mini steamy.
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