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Post by bug on Jul 15, 2020 14:44:03 GMT 10
The 'urbanites' are already coming. There's been a surge in rural properties bought by city dwellers. It's gotten so bad that in many rural centres, there is now a housing shortage. Unthinkable a few years ago. Whilst part of it is white flight, the CV scare certainly hasn't helped.
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Post by Beno on Jul 15, 2020 15:56:50 GMT 10
The 'urbanites' are already coming. There's been a surge in rural properties bought by city dwellers. It's gotten so bad that in many rural centres, there is now a housing shortage. Unthinkable a few years ago. Whilst part of it is white flight, the CV scare certainly hasn't helped. I got asked by the agent who sold us our place if we wanted to sell. It was tongue in cheek as we haven’t even been here for a year but he said demand for small properties was massive. heaps of people fleeing brisbane and the GC. Good on them though. I know a lot of people in the big stinky cities that wanted to move but couldn’t due to work bit covid19 appears to have come to their rescue. They’d wanna play by the rules though and not bring their latte sippin ways and beliefs with them, i can already hear the banjos being restrung. |
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Post by norseman on Jul 15, 2020 16:43:14 GMT 10
The 'urbanites' are already coming. There's been a surge in rural properties bought by city dwellers. It's gotten so bad that in many rural centres, there is now a housing shortage. Unthinkable a few years ago. Whilst part of it is white flight, the CV scare certainly hasn't helped. They’d wanna play by the rules though and not bring their latte sippin ways and beliefs with them, i can already hear the banjos being restrung. This is what I hate about urban tards coming to where I am! They bring their metro attitude and values with them and rather than try to fit in they start up their little SJW groups with other new blow ins to change the way we live! Where is Mad Mick from Wolf Creek when you really need him?!?!?  |
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Post by Beno on Jul 15, 2020 17:16:14 GMT 10
nothin like rain water from the top end.
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Post by bug on Jul 15, 2020 17:17:51 GMT 10
The 'urbanites' are already coming. There's been a surge in rural properties bought by city dwellers. It's gotten so bad that in many rural centres, there is now a housing shortage. Unthinkable a few years ago. Whilst part of it is white flight, the CV scare certainly hasn't helped. I got asked by the agent who sold us our place if we wanted to sell. It was tongue in cheek as we haven’t even been here for a year but he said demand for small properties was massive. heaps of people fleeing brisbane and the GC. Good on them though. I know a lot of people in the big stinky cities that wanted to move but couldn’t due to work bit covid19 appears to have come to their rescue. They’d wanna play by the rules though and not bring their latte sippin ways and beliefs with them, i can already hear the banjos being restrung. That has exactly been the experience of rural towns that have seen an influx of city dwellers. |
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Post by frostbite on Jul 15, 2020 17:25:11 GMT 10
The problem posed in that article was a good one, worthy of serious consideration. Pity the author has his head buried deeply up his own butt. He makes some dangerous assumptions, like desperate strangers won't band together for a common purpose (to avoid starvation) and that the rural dwellers will magically come together as a cohesive force to repel the golden horde. Farmers can't work together in good times to prevent stock theft, so is there any guarantee they could do so when the problem is multiplied a thousand fold?
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Post by spinifex on Jul 15, 2020 18:24:09 GMT 10
WRT that last point FB:
LOL. Hell yes.
Stock theft is like gang warfare. Its largely an in-house affair. It takes a farmer to move another farmers livestock through the system undetected and make a profit from the theft. I don't fancy the chances of outsiders getting away with it. NV, infrared, motion sensors, guns and ammo, drones etc are all tax deductable for a farm business. Everyone is tooled up pretty well to protect their stuff ... all that's holding things back at the moment are the 'rules' around not dobbing your fellow farmers into the police.
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Post by frostbite on Jul 15, 2020 18:52:03 GMT 10
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Post by bushdoc2 on Jul 15, 2020 20:07:22 GMT 10
A lot of small towns have high unemployment and no Centrelink office to ensure dole bludgers have to look for work.
Result: professional parasites move to such towns, and the average IQ/work ethic plummets.
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Post by SA Hunter on Jul 15, 2020 20:19:56 GMT 10
The points I got are this;
* Assumptions are all wrong - NEVER assume you know what will happen in a shtf situation. Never assume your "mate" will side with you, and never assume a stranger won't join you.
* I know farmers who would love nothing that to shoot each other in the guts and watch each other die.
* Assume nothing, Prepare for everything.
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Post by bug on Jul 16, 2020 11:09:25 GMT 10
So true. Rural people supporting each other is largely a myth. They are business people like anyone else. Unless they are good mates, your neighbour may as well be a stranger if you need help. |
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Post by bug on Jul 16, 2020 11:10:36 GMT 10
A lot of small towns have high unemployment and no Centrelink office to ensure dole bludgers have to look for work. Result: professional parasites move to such towns, and the average IQ/work ethic plummets. This is very prevalent in coastal NSW and Qld. Parasites move to nice areas that they know have no jobs and live off welfare/other activities. |
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Post by Beno on Jul 16, 2020 12:27:01 GMT 10
So true. Rural people supporting each other is largely a myth. They are business people like anyone else. Unless they are good mates, your neighbour may as well be a stranger if you need help. It’s not true at all. There are some examples where this is not true but i’ve lived most of my entire life in a range of rural areas from the NT, north west Qld, darling downs, northern nsw, broken hill etc and i have always been able to rely on 90% of my neighbours for most things including big ticket stuff like fencing, managing livestock, property maintenance while I've been away and vice versa. Sounds like there is a fair bit of weekend tree changers having a hard time when the visit their “retreats” . It’s understandable see comments above for why this might happen and why you are not seeing the real picture. I've never been more alone, isolated or just feel that i cannot rely on anyone than when I've lived in the big stinkys. everyone has their own experiences i guess. |
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Post by frostbite on Jul 16, 2020 13:13:54 GMT 10
The real issues where my retreat is, in sheep and cattle raising country, is multi generational farmers fueding with each other. Issues about fencing and shared road maintenance mainly. The tree changers always willing to pitch in, the cockies fighting over things as stupid as one farmer filling a huge washout in the road with rocks that hadn't been certified weed free. Idiots.
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Post by bug on Jul 16, 2020 16:56:05 GMT 10
So true. Rural people supporting each other is largely a myth. They are business people like anyone else. Unless they are good mates, your neighbour may as well be a stranger if you need help. It’s not true at all. There are some examples where this is not true but i’ve lived most of my entire life in a range of rural areas from the NT, north west Qld, darling downs, northern nsw, broken hill etc and i have always been able to rely on 90% of my neighbours for most things including big ticket stuff like fencing, managing livestock, property maintenance while I've been away and vice versa. Sounds like there is a fair bit of weekend tree changers having a hard time when the visit their “retreats” . It’s understandable see comments above for why this might happen and why you are not seeing the real picture. I've never been more alone, isolated or just feel that i cannot rely on anyone than when I've lived in the big stinkys. everyone has their own experiences i guess. That's actually experience from family who are rural folk. It's no different to the city. Some neighbours will help you as much as they can. Other's don't give a shit. |
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Post by Stealth on Jul 18, 2020 13:44:43 GMT 10
I've lived in country towns where people have said "Oh their family has only been here for ten years. They're not REALLY one of us" and watched a family struggle... And even mocked them for their struggles. I've also lived in cities where I've had neighbours who'll bend over backwards to help out, and would offer the shirts of their backs if they thought it was needed.
I've also lived in places where the opposite was true.
The one thing I've always found to be the case is that the opposing camps always assume things of each other that are largely incorrect. A city person can learn how to dock lambs and run a tractor. A country person can learn to present business proposals and develop company resource plans. The success of people who jump the fence in either direction is often related far more to whether or not the people around them are willing to accept and teach them.
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Post by norseman on Jul 18, 2020 15:08:33 GMT 10
The influx of cashed up metros buying up rural / regional properties has largely screwed the historical / local / family generational dynamic it's a shitfight that has terminally stuffed a lot of traditional rural areas. Recently some newly arrived urban slert asked us who the faark we were at a local development meeting? The @#$% had only been here for 8 years she backtracked big time when she found out we had been in the district long enough to have a road named after us and two of my daughters were school captains at the local school!
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Post by milspec on Jul 18, 2020 17:37:45 GMT 10
We are hearing a similar story about city peeps wanting 100acre+ properties from our selling agent as our place goes on the market next week. Similar properties have sold really well in the post covid unlock. Hopefully we can achieve a similar sale result before the lockdowns occur again. Our offer on a couple of thousand acres in QLD has been accepted. Hopefully in about 30 days I'll be heading north.
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Post by spinifex on Jul 18, 2020 20:12:29 GMT 10
So true. Rural people supporting each other is largely a myth. They are business people like anyone else. Unless they are good mates, your neighbour may as well be a stranger if you need help. It’s not true at all. There are some examples where this is not true but i’ve lived most of my entire life in a range of rural areas from the NT, north west Qld, darling downs, northern nsw, broken hill etc and i have always been able to rely on 90% of my neighbours for most things including big ticket stuff like fencing, managing livestock, property maintenance while I've been away and vice versa. Sounds like there is a fair bit of weekend tree changers having a hard time when the visit their “retreats” . It’s understandable see comments above for why this might happen and why you are not seeing the real picture. I've never been more alone, isolated or just feel that i cannot rely on anyone than when I've lived in the big stinkys. everyone has their own experiences i guess. That's been my experience too. Having been born and raised in 'pure' farming communities and still living in one and being part of the farming industry. All the locals in our district (and every district in the region) reliably turn out to the CFS brigade sheds when fires start and farm units all turn out in big numbers and fight on properties that are not their own. Even the ones who shit each other off. They turn out to sow/reap paddocks, shear sheep etc when deaths/injuries/financial duress strikes an unlucky family in the district. All a matter of incentive. Rural communities do a very decent job of rallying under trying circumstances. Must be different in regions/districts that lack rural purity in the population. |
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