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Post by SA Hunter on Sept 2, 2020 20:23:09 GMT 10
News says we are in a recession - so, has this affected you financially? What is different for you - things better? or worse? Has it affected your preps at all?
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Post by frostbite on Sept 2, 2020 20:49:00 GMT 10
Zero affect for me. The industry I work in is booming, overtime on offer every day. My daughter is a military contractor, she is flat out as well with all the movement of ADF personnel due to Covid lockdowns, and she just got a 15% pay rise. Mrs works in health insurance, and zero affect for her. Only my son is getting less overtime as a glazer, but he was over the 100hr weeks anyway.
I've been prepping for economic hardship for 35 years, it was my main concern, so I'm basically immune from economic downturn now.
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Post by Joey on Sept 2, 2020 20:54:03 GMT 10
I can only hope that my rent will fall, as it's only been going up each time I renew the lease for the last 2yrs, and the 6 new houses being built in my section of town (first houses to be built in this town for the last 8yrs since the end of the mining boom) isn't a good sign in my eyes as the greedy real estate agents will take that as "markets improving" and artificially jack the rents up again (
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Post by SA Hunter on Sept 2, 2020 21:17:02 GMT 10
Working the same, but more OT on offer. Cutting back on items, as we are pretty well stocked up, and putting aside a few extra $$ each pay. Fruit & Veg has increased quite a bit, and we are noticing the extra costs in our shopping.
Unfortunately, our trip to Russia at the end of the year got canned, and we used that money to get all our cards to $0.00. I just hope when International travel starts, that tickets will be reasonable.
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Post by spatial on Sept 2, 2020 22:36:27 GMT 10
The company that I work for made $300 million profit last year only $30 million this year so bonuses and pay increases which are in September will be next to nothing, also shares that are issued to employees have lost most of their value.
In a recession prices usually go down, but now across the board prices are increasing, we are all going to be poorer.
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Post by bug on Sept 3, 2020 16:37:43 GMT 10
Unaffected. Industry is booming and job offers keep coming.
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Post by Beno on Sept 3, 2020 17:52:11 GMT 10
My Mrs just got asked to go full time, the border lockdowns are impacting her workplace and they can’t find enough qualified labour to do all the work. I’d probably feel guilty for our good position but we spent a heap of years out west and up north working, saving, learning and bettering our prospects for our eventual return to our home region. But i look at some of our old dirtbag school class who never moved, never wanted to succeed, living a mundane yobbo life and then I don’t feel so bad.
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Post by frostbite on Sept 3, 2020 20:04:28 GMT 10
My Mrs just got asked to go full time, the border lockdowns are impacting her workplace and they can’t find enough qualified labour to do all the work. I’d probably feel guilty for our good position but we spent a heap of years out west and up north working, saving, learning and bettering our prospects for our eventual return to our home region. But i look at some of our old dirtbag school class who never moved, never wanted to succeed, living a mundane yobbo life and then I don’t feel so bad. Never feel bad for success that comes from doing the hard yards.
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Post by bug on Sept 4, 2020 8:40:26 GMT 10
My Mrs just got asked to go full time, the border lockdowns are impacting her workplace and they can’t find enough qualified labour to do all the work. I’d probably feel guilty for our good position but we spent a heap of years out west and up north working, saving, learning and bettering our prospects for our eventual return to our home region. But i look at some of our old dirtbag school class who never moved, never wanted to succeed, living a mundane yobbo life and then I don’t feel so bad. Nah. No need to feel guilty. The moochers are living off your taxes. It's they who should feel guilty towards you.
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Post by dadbod on Sept 5, 2020 9:45:34 GMT 10
my business has never been more profitable, missus is working as much as we want. that side is good.
on the other side the sale of a property fell through, even though the buyer was preapproved for finance, because the lender reassessed her industry as at risk (nursing). I dont quite get that. we also have a house in inner melbourne that will be auctioned after lockdown ends. all i can hope for is a quick settlement now. not too worried about the price. our shares have moved a bit but i positioned out of financials and into gold etfs and gold miners early on.
I think we are going to move some money around and put an offset against family members mortgages. thats earning 4%, and lowering their costs, while our cash in the bank is getting 1%.
It is also a stressor on me as we are in the process of a knockdown/rebuild and I dont want the builder to go under. nothing i can do, except keep them afloat with our business.
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Post by Stealth on Sept 5, 2020 12:12:26 GMT 10
We're better off financially than we would have been had the pandemic never happened. It's crappy. I feel slightly guilty that we've benefited when others are either disadvantaged or even at risk (or sick or dying!) because of something outside of their control. But then we didn't have control over the pandemic either so it's not like we caused others to be in the position that they're in anymore than they would be had the tables been turned.
The pandemic really has readjusted our thought process back to saving for a rainy day and not having debt. Previously we saved money but it was more for unexpected bills etc. Never more than a couple of thousand at a time. We've really put the gas on that and have started saving a lot more per fortnight than we did previously. We still live very comfortably but we're far more focused on providing for ourselves than we were. The pandemic and the recession that's been super-charged (and here's hoping not devolving into a depression but at this rate I would NOT be surprised) has really provided the impetus for us to become far more fiscally responsible, and to actually go out and gain a better financial education.
Our food preps have definitely increased. Our equipment preps have also increased although we're currently a bit restricted by space. My other half is definitely on board with prepping far more now and that's been a huge advantage as well. It's no longer just me grabbing a few extra things with the shop, and I'm not the only one saying things like 'there's a chance to grab xyz while everyone's calmed down, maybe we should buy a case?'.
I think for us the recession will ultimately be touch and go depending on whether or not it continues into a depression. We have the ability to weather the tide on the basis of our employment and we're fortunately in very stable jobs. But we're assuming and preparing for the worst. Saving as much money as possible so that we can buy a house with as little debt as possible is our focus now because who knows what the future brings with a full blown depression?
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Post by spinifex on Sept 6, 2020 7:44:44 GMT 10
I know a few businesses who are reporting some of their best sales ever. AND. They are also receiving the taxpayer funded wage payments. Their profits have never been better thanks to covid. Literally laughing all the way to the bank.
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Post by dadbod on Sept 6, 2020 10:33:32 GMT 10
I know a few businesses who are reporting some of their best sales ever. AND. They are also receiving the taxpayer funded wage payments. Their profits have never been better thanks to covid. Literally laughing all the way to the bank. Thats exactly my situation.
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Post by cindy on Sept 10, 2020 22:37:25 GMT 10
I know a few businesses who are reporting some of their best sales ever. AND. They are also receiving the taxpayer funded wage payments. Their profits have never been better thanks to covid. Literally laughing all the way to the bank. I wonder if this situation will hold once all the business grants and job keeper payments have ceased, thus far from what I've read the business grants end in December and jobkeeper ends in March. If things return to a "normal" should be fine but it things are still dicey can see it going pearshaped. My husband works in biosecurity so no change for him and I'm a health care worker on reduced hours but not that reduced. So on the whole pretty good at our end.
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Post by bug on Sept 11, 2020 9:31:04 GMT 10
Jobseeker has artificially inflated the unemployment figures. In places where cafes are allowed to open, owners have been having trouble getting casual employees to come in. Much easier to sit at home and collect welfare than go to work. None of the awkward centrelink questions now either.
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Post by Beno on Sept 11, 2020 12:27:15 GMT 10
My mates daughter just turned down a secure 40hrs a week at a successful cafe. Reason, she can earn just as much and work less on jobkeeper. my mate is ropable. Businesses should be able to report this crap and pit the boot into these lazy buggers.
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Post by spinifex on Sept 12, 2020 7:54:40 GMT 10
Your mates daughter is an excellent capitalist citizen. Making exactly the right economic decision.
This is cutting both ways.
I'm aware of several businesses in my region who take government (ie Taxpayer funded) wage subsidies and channel them into fat income boosts for the owners. They are re-injecting that money into the economy by buying imported luxury items.
Three cheers for corporate socialism. The socialism that is always called by another name (Stimulus/Quantative easing/Rebate Scheme/tax minimisation) and lauded as being vital for economic prosperity.
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Post by Beno on Sept 12, 2020 9:07:52 GMT 10
Kinda like corporate bonuses for the little guy! I'm really enjoying the irony of the liberals touting one of the most left wing policies i’ve ever seen as good economic sense. Hopefully if we go back to normal the two big doofuses can find some more middle ground. I think Australia has had enough of the fringe. If it wasn’t for some of the firecracker independents we’d be completely bi-polar.
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Post by bug on Sept 12, 2020 11:14:10 GMT 10
Your mates daughter is an excellent capitalist citizen. Making exactly the right economic decision. This is cutting both ways. I'm aware of several businesses in my region who take government (ie Taxpayer funded) wage subsidies and channel them into fat income boosts for the owners. They are re-injecting that money into the economy by buying imported luxury items. Three cheers for corporate socialism. The socialism that is always called by another name (Stimulus/Quantative easing/Rebate Scheme/tax minimisation) and lauded as being vital for economic prosperity. I work for a large multinational. They sent us the jobkeeper form to fill out so they could get the money from the government. A quiet "fark off" was uttered and that email went straight to delete. Work in my industry is bursting at the seams. 30 years ago it was all Australian owned, now it is mostly foreign owned. Jobkeeper makes zero difference to whether or not we keep working. The money would have gone straight into the foreign owner's pockets.
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Post by doglover on Jan 31, 2021 8:41:31 GMT 10
I’m an electrical contractor and we have done really well throughout the pandemic and recession so far. Labor is our biggest issue as no one seems to want to work here. We can find experienced electricians that are lazy and only move for the highest wages, but they just aren’t worth it. The kids that aren’t experienced make more staying at home on the couch right now. They are pushing for the 15.00$ an hour minimum wage here and that will just make it harder for small businesses like ours. It’s hard to justify a non experienced helper for that wage. One thing I really have noticed is the cost of food and regular grocery supplies have gone up a lot. One hundred dollars doesn't get much in a grocery cart now. I’m fortunate to be debt free with a good income now, but I really do feel for the young people starting out My kids are all grown now but I would really hate to have to feed 4 kids in today’s financial climate.
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