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Post by tomatoes on Sept 12, 2020 9:54:45 GMT 10
I have heard of new rubber rings that go on preserving jars deteriorating over time. This is over many, many years, not just say 5 years - the unopened packets you get when someone is selling a bulk lot of their great grandmas old stuff.
If you were going to buy a heap of extra rubber preserving rings, and you wanted to set some aside for longer term, any thoughts on storage? I’m wondering if it would help to vacuum seal them? And if so, if you’d open all the original packets and put them all into a vac bag to seal them?
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Post by doglover on Sept 12, 2020 10:40:51 GMT 10
I have some of the tattler rings for canning but haven’t ever tried them yet. I bought a pretty large amount of the regular lids and although they are disposable I know they work well. Guess I just haven’t wanted to experiment with the stuff I worked so hard on in the gardens. One of these days I will try them out. I believe they are an old design that have been around for ages. As far as preserving them I’m sure sealing them in vacuum bags is a good idea, and keeping in a dark and cool area.
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Post by shinester on Sept 12, 2020 12:00:50 GMT 10
As stated elsewhere, I'm a fan of using 'standard' jars [think pasta sauce jar] for my canning as they have a silicone rim that's infinitely reusable. Been using them for a few years now without issue. You can also get vacuum pumps for mason jars. Personally I don't vacuum seal anything after I had a whole bunch of stuff not seal properly and instead I just use CO2 in buckets with o-rings.
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Post by dirtdiva on Sept 12, 2020 12:19:43 GMT 10
Like you doglover I stock the regular lids. Buy in bulk sleeves and divide into vacuum bags and seal then store in cool and dark place. Never had a problem. I probably have enough for a couple years in stock.
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Post by Tim Horton on Sept 26, 2020 1:34:24 GMT 10
When they were available, we bought a lot of metal lids at thrift stores, garage sales, grandma estate sales.. Mostly new metal lids and some small number of used metal lids..
Have not seen any obvious failures due to age of lids.. Sweetie will reuse metal lids with water bath process chicken feed to great success.. We also vacuum seal with used lids to good success and do secure storage with used lids..
Of course using new metal lids and Tattler system for our consumption..
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Post by dirtdiva on Sept 26, 2020 2:15:47 GMT 10
Tim I reuse lids for vacuum sealing as well without a problem. DO not use them for canning to date.
I am curious as to what your experiences are with Tattler lids. I have never used them.
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Post by Tim Horton on Sept 28, 2020 9:06:38 GMT 10
I am curious as to what your experiences are with Tattler lids. I have never used them. +++ Back when Sweetie ordered her Tattler supplies, she made a significant investment in a seemingly large quantity of product.. Doing so got her a big discount at the time and free shipping.. Shipping can be expensive to the far north, so free shipping was a big bonus..
Reading and following the directions, with a good bit of experience now, she has a very low failure rate.. Tattler has worked very well for her...
.....Super double secret info... Sweetie doesn't know I have ordered some Harvest Guard lids and rings.. This for a hands on side by side comparison when she posts to the Rebel Canners forum she follows.
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Post by dirtdiva on Sept 28, 2020 23:19:43 GMT 10
I am on Rebel Canners too! Sounds like your Sweetie and I are birds of a feather
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Post by Tim Horton on Sept 4, 2023 9:48:27 GMT 10
OK.... An old thread, however... So with the way the world has been over the last 3 years... I wonder how everyone experience has gone over this time... ??
In that... Lids, jars and such were in such short supply for a time... To day they seem in ample supply again ...if you can afford them... it seems...
Now the changes in lids seems the biggest issue.. That being the China (?) lids that were here for a short while that seemed thin metal, thin bad rubber, and prone to buckling and other failures.. I have not used them, but forjar (?..where available ) brand lids seem to have a good reputation... Again, they seem pricy.. When I lived in the frozen north we had good luck buying thrift shop, garage, estate sale lids with a very small percentage of bad ones.. For what ever reason it seemed if there were bad lids in a package it was a case of poor storage and exposure to hot temps and sunlight seemed the problem.. We also used reusable Tattler and Harvest Guard reusable lids to good success...
What has been your experience over the last few years ??
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Post by frostbite on Sept 4, 2023 10:31:45 GMT 10
My experience has been there’s nothing of quality available unless I want to mortgage my house to pay for the postage on Harvest Guard reusable lids.
So instead I butter up my work wife with the Freeze Dryer. .
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Post by malewithatail on Sept 4, 2023 11:15:32 GMT 10
Quality on the lids is an issue, out of 10 jars put down, 8 seal properly.
OPSEC....I'm more prepared than I'd like to admit.
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