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Post by SA Hunter on Sept 14, 2020 21:51:35 GMT 10
Question from doglover - what do you use for water catchment?
Well, what do you use?
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Post by SA Hunter on Sept 14, 2020 21:54:40 GMT 10
At my bol, I'll be using IBCs. They are free from many farmers, and once cleaned, will hold 1000l rainwater. Down side - they must be out of sunlight, as algae will grow easily - I plan to paint mine black, and have then stored in a shelter with no sun light.  I can have 6-7 where I am, and they will be tapped direct into a tap inside my cabin. I'll have another 2-3 for garden water, and have them on a small drip system to water trees and garden. |
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Post by SA Hunter on Sept 14, 2020 21:58:12 GMT 10
 This will be my shower, once I get the water supply done; Gas fed hot water service, flow off runs into a collection pool till it cools, then into the garden ( another future plan ). |
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Post by kelabar on Sept 14, 2020 23:31:39 GMT 10
Holy ****, @sa Hunter, that looks like a teleport booth! Or that thing from the movie "The Fly". Be careful! For water storage I use these.  Galvanised corrugated iron. Very strong. Available from tiny up to 'huge'. Lightweight so easy to move. Totally dark inside so no algae and easily sealed to stop mosquitoes. They last on average about 50 years before they rust out. This one has plastic fittings, stuff that! Get ones with metal fittings brazed into the tank. A pointed/conical top is better not flat like this one. The flat ones collect water and dirt on top. Also tennis balls and frisbees slide off the pointy top ones! |
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Post by frostbite on Sept 15, 2020 5:36:35 GMT 10
I use this:  And a few of these:  |
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Post by bug on Sept 15, 2020 8:12:15 GMT 10
My roof and a 2000L water tank.
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Post by spatial on Sept 15, 2020 12:13:19 GMT 10
In many part of the US it is illegal to harvest roof water, which I find strange coming from the so called "Land of the Free"...
In NSW Australia it is mandatory that all new houses are built with rainwater catchment system, that feeds into your washing machine and toilet, can only be topped up when the tank is empty.
Being in a older house I retrospectively added two 1,500l water catchment tanks that easily fill up with 20mm (less than an inch) of rainfall. Have a small water pump that is used to water the veg garden.
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Post by spinifex on Sept 15, 2020 17:12:17 GMT 10
I have 45 000 litres of storage in 3 poly tanks.
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Post by spinifex on Sept 15, 2020 17:24:09 GMT 10
So ... in the US where collecting rainwater is illegal ... do you just hide tanks inside sheds or what?
Are gutters and downpipes illegal there? Or just storing water?
Gotta wonder about why in the US its ok to buy an assault rifle at K-Mart and then wander around in the midst of rioters with it ... but not OK to collect rainwater.
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Post by bug on Sept 16, 2020 8:15:27 GMT 10
In NSW Australia it is mandatory that all new houses are built with rainwater catchment system, that feeds into your washing machine and toilet, can only be topped up when the tank is empty. Being in a older house I retrospectively added two 1,500l water catchment tanks that easily fill up with 20mm (less than an inch) of rainfall. Have a small water pump that is used to water the veg garden. That rule has turned new housing estates into a mosquito paradise. Most of the catchment systems have no way of excluding mosquitos. |
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Post by norseman on Sept 16, 2020 9:04:35 GMT 10
In many part of the US it is illegal to harvest roof water, which I find strange coming from the so called "Land of the Free"... In NSW Australia it is mandatory that all new houses are built with rainwater catchment system, that feeds into your washing machine and toilet, can only be topped up when the tank is empty. Being in a older house I retrospectively added two 1,500l water catchment tanks that easily fill up with 20mm (less than an inch) of rainfall. Have a small water pump that is used to water the veg garden. It's absolutely laughable! Thirty plus years ago when I lived in one of the most dangerous / fire prone districts in Australia the council retards would fine you if they caught you with a water tank in your backyard! My next door neighbour was the original house on our road and the council made him tear down his water tank which had been standing there for 60 years before the water and sewer reached the town! He was threatened with a $2000 fine if he did not comply! One reason why I love to hate local councils! |
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Post by dirtdiva on Sept 18, 2020 4:39:37 GMT 10
So ... in the US where collecting rainwater is illegal ... do you just hide tanks inside sheds or what? Are gutters and downpipes illegal there? Or just storing water? Gotta wonder about why in the US its ok to buy an assault rifle at K-Mart and then wander around in the midst of rioters with it ... but not OK to collect rainwater. Most houses have gutters and downspouts and people then have to deal with draining the water from the downspout away from your home foundation. So in essence that water just runs onto the ground and is wasted. Keep in mind this is not everywhere though. Usually in large cities and liberal states. People in the country side used to have large underground cisterns but for some reason that practice fell from favor long ago. I personally have guttering and rain barrels on every building I have. I have fencing or hedges that hide most of them "just in case" they decide to change the ordinances here. Right now it is NOT illegal to catch water where I live. Other things illegal in some areas. Clothes lines, backyard livestock such as chickens or rabbits, vegetable plants in your front yard. There are actually legal cases where people were either sued or written violations with huge fines from the city for putting any sort of vegetable garden in their front yard. Most of these restrictions are on a state, county, township or local level. On a personal note Spinifex I would not spend too much of my time trying to make sense of the American people. |
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Post by dirtdiva on Sept 18, 2020 4:58:24 GMT 10
Did some research and looks like it is legal now to harvest rooftop rainwater in most states. Some do have some restrictions as follows:
Arkansas
The State of Arkansas allows for rainwater harvesting with some minor restrictions. According to Arkansas Code Annotated § 17-38-201 (2014), the State Board of Health “shall allow the use of a harvested rainwater system used for a non-potable purpose if the harvested rainwater system is: (1) designed by a professional engineer licensed in Arkansas; (2) is designed with appropriate cross-connection safeguards; and (3) complies with Arkansas Plumbing Code.”
Colorado
Colorado has traditionally been one of the most restrictive states for rainwater harvesting. Two laws were passed in 2009 which loosened restrictions on rainwater collection, allowing residents to use rainwater for non-potable purposes. In 2016, House Bill 16-1005 was passed, allowing residents to collect rainwater from a catchment system on their rooftops into two rain barrels, with a combined capacity of 110 gallons. The collected rain must be used on the property where it is collected and may only be used for outdoor purposes such as lawn irrigation and gardening.
Georgia
Rainwater harvesting is legal in Georgia but closely regulated by the Department of Natural Resources in the Environmental Protection Division. According to their plumbing code, rainwater harvesting is legal as long as it is used for outdoors only.
Illinois
Rainwater harvesting is legal in Illinois but with two major statutes. The Green Infrastructure for Clean Water Act which relates to water conservation, efficiency, infrastructure, and management while promoting rainwater harvesting. House Bill 991 (2011) amended the Homeowners’ Solar Rights Act. It requires that within 120 days after a homeowners’ association, the association shall adopt an energy policy statement regarding: (i) the location, design, and architectural requirements of solar energy systems; and (ii) whether a wind energy collection, rain water collection, or composting system is allowed, and, if so, the location, design, and architectural requirements of those systems.
Oregon
Rainwater harvesting is legal in Oregon, but may only be collected from a catchment system on rooftop surfaces. The state gives some approval for alternate methods of construction of rainwater harvesting systems, but legal advice should be sought before attempting to construct any system on private property.
Utah
The State of Utah authorizes the direct collection of rainwater on land owned or leased by the person responsible for the collection. According to Senate Bill 32 (2010), a person registered with the Division of Water Resources cannot store more than 2,500 gallons of rainwater. If unregistered, no more than two containers may be used, and the maximum capacity of any one container may not exceed 100 gallons (Utah Code Ann. §73-3-1.5)
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Post by Tim Horton on Oct 6, 2020 10:09:49 GMT 10
(2) is designed with appropriate cross-connection safeguards;
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This is a VERY real danger.. People not knowing what they are doing inadvertently contaminating municipal water systems.. A small amount of the wrong thing can require many millions of gallons of clean water to dilute and clean the system to potable condition again..
Not a good comparison maybe, but an understandable issue where people send electricity back through the system with there home generators..
I do agree... Most politicians or home owner association boards can/will screw up anything..
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Post by bear508 on Nov 3, 2020 20:58:27 GMT 10
When I started looking for property in the south west of WA, one of the councils told me they require a minimum of 90,000 liters of water storage!
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