SA Hunter: Well, it's cold, wet, windy here in SA - more to come - welcome to winter!
Jul 16, 2021 19:56:35 GMT 10
myrrph: I have been thinking about savoury long life survival food coz I am not a big fan of sweet stuff. but you're right, the thirst factor is a major point. I've tried making pemmican (and failed) now gonna try hard tack (like at last!).
Jul 19, 2021 13:29:01 GMT 10
myrrph: One good thing about this pandemic, is that it allows me to try all these nice prepping things ^_^
Jul 19, 2021 13:29:24 GMT 10
malewithatail: Also enables one to go over the preps and tidy up the shed.
Jul 19, 2021 14:50:37 GMT 10
SA Hunter: Well, SA going into a "not a lockdown" lockdown. Yay!
Jul 19, 2021 19:47:28 GMT 10
spinifex: And now SA is in a full Lockdown for 7 days ... toilet paper sold out within hours!! LMAO What the heck is with that behavior??
Jul 20, 2021 17:01:57 GMT 10
Tri-Polar: Plenty of time to do some weeding, since i spent an hour today and barely made a dent. But QLD, so no lockdown. But if we did, ammunition supply is essential, thus still going to work.
Jul 20, 2021 18:23:37 GMT 10
SA Hunter: We've got up to 40mm rain coming next 7 days - another shed clean up is on the cards.
Jul 20, 2021 22:21:35 GMT 10
SA Hunter: People on social media whinging that the shelves at supermarket empty, nothing for them to buy - lessons not being learnt!
Jul 20, 2021 22:23:04 GMT 10
malewithatail: Went shopping today, holes appearing in shelves at wollies. Amazing. get prepped people.
Jul 21, 2021 18:09:12 GMT 10
Joey: Anyone with mates in Talisman Sabre that can hook us up with a box or 2 of US MRE's?
Jul 22, 2021 13:52:51 GMT 10
SA Hunter: 22mm rain so far-more to come.
Jul 22, 2021 22:45:03 GMT 10
Tri-Polar: We been getting the yanks in the shop here, they think the games are some secret hush hush thing.
Jul 23, 2021 19:30:43 GMT 10
Tri-Polar: What an afternoon. 4 hours of trying to set up and position my 4g directional antenna (1hour to drive into town for fittings and back). Sealed up hole and roof. Then realize i forgot to re run my VHF/UHF antenna wire.
Jul 24, 2021 17:49:20 GMT 10
SA Hunter: Finally out of lockdown
Jul 28, 2021 9:01:10 GMT 10
malewithatail: Will you ever believe anything the Medical Establishment or Government ever tells you again ?
Jul 31, 2021 9:26:14 GMT 10
I had heard of container based homes but never really looked into it. Here's a nice one. Well fitted out. This one has a kitchen, bathroom/toilet and laundry with gas hot water, aircons, solar-all the lights are 12V and I think is has been set up to be powered by an extension cord. The 'shed' in one end is clever. As is the 'L' shape giving a sheltered area. Transport wouldn't be too expensive, just two trips with a container trailer. Could be worth looking into. Get a container delivered, fit it out, then transport it to your location. Very strong too. Here's a link while it is still listed: www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/moonta/building-materials/two-40ft-shipping-containers-home/1257408660
Be careful with containers in fire Although fairly fire resistant several of our locals lost containers of stores as fire gets underneath them and burns up thru their wood floors I now block of the bases with gravel so no debris/ flames can get undet
The more you look into security, the more you notice that at best you can only slow down a thief. Padlocks can be picked, broken open, cut, sawn etc. Nothing stops a determined person with some basic tools, check out all the videos about how easy it is and videos about thieves talking about security. Almost nothing stops them. Being remote helps in that it's too far to go. Doors can be easily kicked in, have the hinges punched [if outside]. Windows can have tap added and cracked and removed with little noise. I don't consider either of these to be 'secure'.
There is only ever 'more secure' and 'less secure'.
Remoteness is rarely a security feature. Unless its practiced in the extreme. Remoteness makes something less secure. It's the reason why expensive infrastructure gets stolen on a regular basis across outback areas.
You've given me something to think about frostbite. Been looking at containers but at the end of the day the cost of the containers themselves and then making them livable... Sheds are looking a lot more reasonable price wise.
Post by frostbite on Sept 25, 2020 13:42:00 GMT 10
Imo the only negative for a shed over container is the need to pour a concrete slab for the shed. In every other aspect shed is better than container. Even council rules are more stringent on containers.
Post by peter1942 on Sept 26, 2020 13:33:06 GMT 10
To keep the costs down on a container shed or dwelling the roof of the container/s can be used to support the roof over it or them negating the need for a separate support system.
We use the 40 foot containers as they are about the same price as the 20 foot ones. A false wall on the outside of a container made of corrugated iron, new or second hand, goes a long way towards keeping them cooler in the heat of the summer.
I mentioned in my last post about about having roofing iron on the outside of a container to keep the heat down over summer. To do this correctly get some top hat and screw this horizontally to the outside of the container, one top and bottom and one in the middle. Any size top hat will do the job. When the sun hits the outside it creates heat which rises and if the container is off the ground it gets the cooler air from underneath and draws it up assisting the shade of the iron to keep it cooler. Here in the heat of the summer the roofing iron on the outside gets too hot to be comfortable to put your hand on but the inside wall is noticeably cooler.
It is best to have a roof on a container not just to help to keep it cool but they do not take many years to rust out if left exposed to the weather. Make sure you have a good overhang as the roof makes a good rainwater collection area.
Anybody wanting to use a container to live in should not go to the expense and hassle of installing a kitchen instead get a caravan as they have relatively good kitchens even if they are not road worthy and erect a shelter alongside the container to keep it cool also and protect it from the elements.
A 40 foot container empty weighs about four tonnes and with ours, once they are in place I have used a smallish ute jack to lift one side so that I can put the piers in and these are normally two by two house bricks down to the clay or other solid material and I usually put five along each side. You can use steel sheeting, cut to size to help get the correct heights of the piers
For the shelters I use treated pine posts either 3.6 or 3.75 meters long and have the holes a minimum of 800 millimetres deep. Never concrete wooden posts into the ground as once it sets concrete shrinks and the minute gap between concrete and posts will harbour a variety of pests. Tightly rammed earth, clay or a mixture of both is the best recipe.
Use galvanised bolts when using treated pine posts.
If you are worried about winds lifting posts drill a hole about 100 millimetres from the bottom and put a piece of galvanised pipe through that juts out both sides and when in the hole put a house brick on either side and ram as per usual. Everything else other than the posts should be made of steel.
Windows, doors etc. can be cut into the container using gas, angle grinder or jigsaw with appropriate blade.