kelabar
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Post by kelabar on Sept 22, 2020 18:29:10 GMT 10
I had heard of container based homes but never really looked into it. Here's a nice one. Well fitted out. This one has a kitchen, bathroom/toilet and laundry with gas hot water, aircons, solar-all the lights are 12V and I think is has been set up to be powered by an extension cord. The 'shed' in one end is clever. As is the 'L' shape giving a sheltered area. Transport wouldn't be too expensive, just two trips with a container trailer. Could be worth looking into. Get a container delivered, fit it out, then transport it to your location. Very strong too. Here's a link while it is still listed: www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/moonta/building-materials/two-40ft-shipping-containers-home/1257408660    |
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Post by frostbite on Sept 22, 2020 19:28:13 GMT 10
Those container homes can be very expensive. One of my 20ft containers, with pa door and window cost the same as my 9m x 6m garage with two windows and glass sliding door.
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Post by tomatoes on Sept 22, 2020 21:17:48 GMT 10
If you are someone who uses Facebook - There’s a Facebook group for people interested in container homes in Australia. Lots of people are doing them and posting pics, tips, etc.
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Post by dice on Sept 22, 2020 21:50:07 GMT 10
There is a mob in the US that does a nice prefab container home, something i wouldnt mind getting if i had the dough.
Some of the ideas this bloke has are original.
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Post by shinester on Sept 22, 2020 23:40:04 GMT 10
Refrigerated hi-top container above ground... aka insulated, fit it out yourself and maybe. Otherwise the shed for $$
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Post by frostbite on Sept 23, 2020 6:39:37 GMT 10
This:  Cost me the same amount of money as this:  |
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Post by spinifex on Sept 23, 2020 7:03:57 GMT 10
I guess the bottom one can be easily broken into by someone with minimal tools whilst the top one made of shipping containers requires a lot more effort?
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Post by gasman on Sept 23, 2020 9:11:33 GMT 10
Be careful with containers in fire
Although fairly fire resistant several of our locals lost containers of stores as fire gets underneath them and burns up thru their wood floors
I now block of the bases with gravel so no debris/ flames can get undet
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Post by frostbite on Sept 23, 2020 10:34:27 GMT 10
I guess the bottom one can be easily broken into by someone with minimal tools whilst the top one made of shipping containers requires a lot more effort? Very easy to cut through the wooden floor of a container, or use a battery powered grinder and go straight through the walls or roof. The roof is very thin metal. |
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Post by spinifex on Sept 23, 2020 16:55:27 GMT 10
Even easier to undo a few tek screws on the side of a shed. Much quieter than a grinder.
It'd be possible to electrify the bejesus out of a container if its on insulating stumps. That could be fun. If it wasn't illegal.
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shinester
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Post by shinester on Sept 24, 2020 1:42:52 GMT 10
The more you look into security, the more you notice that at best you can only slow down a thief. Padlocks can be picked, broken open, cut, sawn etc. Nothing stops a determined person with some basic tools, check out all the videos about how easy it is and videos about thieves talking about security. Almost nothing stops them. Being remote helps in that it's too far to go. Doors can be easily kicked in, have the hinges punched [if outside]. Windows can have tap added and cracked and removed with little noise. I don't consider either of these to be 'secure'.
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Post by spinifex on Sept 24, 2020 8:37:43 GMT 10
There is only ever 'more secure' and 'less secure'.
Remoteness is rarely a security feature. Unless its practiced in the extreme. Remoteness makes something less secure. It's the reason why expensive infrastructure gets stolen on a regular basis across outback areas.
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Post by Stealth on Sept 25, 2020 12:16:42 GMT 10
You've given me something to think about frostbite. Been looking at containers but at the end of the day the cost of the containers themselves and then making them livable... Sheds are looking a lot more reasonable price wise.
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Post by frostbite on Sept 25, 2020 13:42:00 GMT 10
Imo the only negative for a shed over container is the need to pour a concrete slab for the shed. In every other aspect shed is better than container. Even council rules are more stringent on containers.
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Post by peter1942 on Sept 26, 2020 13:33:06 GMT 10
To keep the costs down on a container shed or dwelling the roof of the container/s can be used to support the roof over it or them negating the need for a separate support system.
We use the 40 foot containers as they are about the same price as the 20 foot ones. A false wall on the outside of a container made of corrugated iron, new or second hand, goes a long way towards keeping them cooler in the heat of the summer.
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Post by peter1942 on Oct 2, 2020 15:02:23 GMT 10
I mentioned in my last post about about having roofing iron on the outside of a container to keep the heat down over summer. To do this correctly get some top hat and screw this horizontally to the outside of the container, one top and bottom and one in the middle. Any size top hat will do the job. When the sun hits the outside it creates heat which rises and if the container is off the ground it gets the cooler air from underneath and draws it up assisting the shade of the iron to keep it cooler. Here in the heat of the summer the roofing iron on the outside gets too hot to be comfortable to put your hand on but the inside wall is noticeably cooler.
It is best to have a roof on a container not just to help to keep it cool but they do not take many years to rust out if left exposed to the weather. Make sure you have a good overhang as the roof makes a good rainwater collection area.
Anybody wanting to use a container to live in should not go to the expense and hassle of installing a kitchen instead get a caravan as they have relatively good kitchens even if they are not road worthy and erect a shelter alongside the container to keep it cool also and protect it from the elements.
A 40 foot container empty weighs about four tonnes and with ours, once they are in place I have used a smallish ute jack to lift one side so that I can put the piers in and these are normally two by two house bricks down to the clay or other solid material and I usually put five along each side. You can use steel sheeting, cut to size to help get the correct heights of the piers
For the shelters I use treated pine posts either 3.6 or 3.75 meters long and have the holes a minimum of 800 millimetres deep. Never concrete wooden posts into the ground as once it sets concrete shrinks and the minute gap between concrete and posts will harbour a variety of pests. Tightly rammed earth, clay or a mixture of both is the best recipe.
Use galvanised bolts when using treated pine posts.
If you are worried about winds lifting posts drill a hole about 100 millimetres from the bottom and put a piece of galvanised pipe through that juts out both sides and when in the hole put a house brick on either side and ram as per usual. Everything else other than the posts should be made of steel.
Windows, doors etc. can be cut into the container using gas, angle grinder or jigsaw with appropriate blade.
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