spatial
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Post by spatial on Jul 25, 2024 13:13:32 GMT 10
EPIRB, Mobile with satellite communication ability, GPS etc.. are now very robust technology makes navigation and getting found very easy.
The 10 items of survivability date back to the 1930's, clothing is much more weather proof etc. All the bushcrafters is fire big fixed blade knife, pot to boil water, tarp. Without that one cant survive!!!
Real experience of finding lost people alive by search and rescue personal is that if a person has a warm jacket and appropriate clothing they generally survive. Most common cause of rescue is a people getting lost, GPS, mobile with maps reduces the risk substantially. One can also drink contaminated water and survive for days before the bacteria starts affecting you, or just have few water purification tablets. No fire and big knife required.
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Post by spinifex on Jul 25, 2024 16:56:01 GMT 10
Epirb, satphones costs plenty and can and do fail. I only used them when work was paying the bills.
I agree that big knives achieve very little. But fire is a massive plus and the gear to make it is very small and light.
Places I went either had very salty or zero environmental water. Collecting condensate from plants or salt water were only options for extra drinking water.
Other thing I used to carry in car was big stilsons to enable access to water in stock water pipes or capped artesian bores. Didn’t lug them in a pack when hiking though.
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Post by norseman on Aug 16, 2024 15:42:47 GMT 10
This bloke is one of my favourite "Nutjobs" without being your common Self-Promoting "Ex Special Forces bla bla" he totally "Gets It"! Some things I would do a little differently but in my opinion his fundamental message is quite sound! Living on the street for a prolonged period of time definitely teaches you some "stuff"!
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Post by frostbite on Aug 19, 2024 3:43:38 GMT 10
If he only takes the mini sawyer and not a bottle then he has to stay close to the water source, which limits his movement options.
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Post by norseman on Aug 19, 2024 4:28:29 GMT 10
If he only takes the mini sawyer and not a bottle then he has to stay close to the water source, which limits his movement options. Yes, that's a good point for sure, to not have a full water carrier is a mistake! I like the overall message which is to get rid of excess crap for the sake of simplicity / efficiency / weight saving!
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Post by spinifex on Aug 20, 2024 11:08:38 GMT 10
This bloke is one of my favourite "Nutjobs" without being your common Self-Promoting "Ex Special Forces bla bla" he totally "Gets It"! Some things I would do a little differently but in my opinion his fundamental message is quite sound! Living on the street for a prolonged period of time definitely teaches you some "stuff"! While he makes a very good point about the risk of using fire … his choice of bic lighter over ferro and Vaseline cotton wool is odd. Lighters fail often. I’d consider having a very simple butane can burner to cook food. Like the one in link below outdoorelement.com/products/ultralight-mini-camp-stove
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Post by spinifex on Aug 20, 2024 11:24:07 GMT 10
Wouldn’t take bug spray. Too smelly. Prefer mozzie net hood to cover head
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Post by malewithatail on Aug 20, 2024 11:28:56 GMT 10
I have a small, aluminum folding stove that includes a small cup that sits on top of it and folds up inside. Its powered by solid fuel tablets, but when I was hiking I used twigs and small sticks instead. Very effective, and great for heating up coffee, meals etc. Almost undetectable.
I also carried a few chlorine tablets, which can 'clean' water easily and if the resulting water is tipped from cup to cup, can dissipate so the water doesn't smell/taste of a council swimming pool !
I have a small rectangular block of magnesium with a ferrite flint embedded in one side. Just scrape off a small pile of the magnesium with your knife, and set it alight with a spark from the flint. It will start a fire almost underwater, and certainly with wet materials as it burns at over 3,100 degrees c.
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Post by spinifex on Aug 20, 2024 11:30:32 GMT 10
Why smash bulbs in head light when you could just black out the lens? Won’t busting light compromise reliability of device?
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Post by norseman on Aug 20, 2024 11:53:56 GMT 10
Why smash bulbs in head light when you could just black out the lens? Won’t busting light compromise reliability of device? Potentially it will for sure but the stupidity of these head light manufacturers across the board is amazing in that their light modes mostly go white light full, then white light step down then to red / blue which by this time your night vision is screwed! I have two Petzl Military issue Head Lights that because of their manual red filters can only go night vision first! Permanently deactivating or masking white light in head torches with tape or black pen for the purposes of night navigation / map reading / illumination at your feet is actually a common practice! Again the main message I wanted to help carry here was to get rid of excess gear for the sake of simplicity / efficiency / weight saving!
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Post by norseman on Aug 20, 2024 12:09:43 GMT 10
This bloke is one of my favourite "Nutjobs" without being your common Self-Promoting "Ex Special Forces bla bla" he totally "Gets It"! Some things I would do a little differently but in my opinion his fundamental message is quite sound! Living on the street for a prolonged period of time definitely teaches you some "stuff"! While he makes a very good point about the risk of using fire … his choice of bic lighter over ferro and Vaseline cotton wool is odd. Lighters fail often. I’d consider having a very simple butane can burner to cook food. Like the one in link below outdoorelement.com/products/ultralight-mini-camp-stoveGiven both weigh almost nothing I would keep each one! Bic for instant flame and convenience with Ferro for long term reliability.
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Post by frostbite on Aug 20, 2024 12:23:11 GMT 10
I did a favour for a loadie attached to 2Co many years ago, and in return he gave me the light he used during his multiple tours of Afghan. The head swivels so you can select different types of light before you turn it on. It’s hand held, but you can always pretend it’s a big Cuban cigar if you need both hands free.
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Post by malewithatail on Aug 20, 2024 13:18:31 GMT 10
Both our head lamps have separate switches for the red and white lights, and one even has 2 red light brightness settings. And it was only a Jaycar special years ago, takes 3 AAA battery's and lasts for days.
Enter thermal gear, no need for lighting, at least for surveillance tasks.
The chlorine tablets were called 'Puritabs max", and I still have a 1/2 dozen, weather they would be any good after 40 + years......
Another thing I took hiking was my homemade sw weatherproof radio. It was totally undetectable, unlike all modern comms gear that radiates a small, but detectable signal from the local oscillator inside, mine was a regenerative type and hence operated on a completely different principle to a modern set.
40 years ago we were practicing being stealthy, even though we didn't really know why.
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Post by spatial on Aug 20, 2024 21:12:24 GMT 10
For the combat junkies, initial reaction to receiving incoming gunfire.
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