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Post by Joey on Jul 27, 2021 19:22:19 GMT 10
A new boys toy has come out in Aust which seems like it can be a very capable truck off-road, it just needs to have the engine remapped for some more power than the poultry factory 110Kw
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Post by spinifex on Jul 27, 2021 19:53:58 GMT 10
Russian off road vehicle? Sounds good!
The engine power is more than the old 6cyl troopies which had 96KW ... and if its a high torque engine could be excellent for low speed going in very rough terrain.
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Post by spatial on Jul 27, 2021 20:01:47 GMT 10
Had a Russian vehicle before, had heaps of problems. Never buy Russian or Chinese vehicle.
My Hnew hilux came last week, has 240v 1000w plug output which would be useful in an emergency.
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Post by Tri-Polar on Jul 27, 2021 20:38:50 GMT 10
Had a Russian vehicle before, had heaps of problems. Never buy Russian or Chinese vehicle. My Hnew hilux came last week, has 240v 1000w plug output which would be useful in an emergency. Why dont you like Lada or LDV? Lol. Seriousness, Ladas are fun. New hilux: 30k kms, well looked after, serviced and babied. Timing chain and steering box issues already. (under warranty, just). Ignoring the roof leak issue as well.
New cars are just slapped together. From what i have experienced (various makes and models).
Id rather buy a 20-30year old diesel and pour the rest of the money into it to bring it up to spec. Simple, no electronic, high reliability.
Seems abit of a contender for the 4x4 truck game. The iveco dailys (over sized cruiser) and the izuzu nps series are my tops at the moment, with the nps leading.
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Post by Beno on Jul 27, 2021 21:14:01 GMT 10
I’ve been in the izuzu and iveco in the bush doing real work. The iveco is superior with front, rear and centre diff locks, 37’s, super low range with splitter gears and a hefty load capacity. It’s much more comfortable, easier to drive and just better at everything. The NSP can carry more.
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Post by spatial on Jul 27, 2021 21:44:32 GMT 10
I’ve been in the izuzu and iveco in the bush doing real work. The iveco is superior with front, rear and centre diff locks, 37’s, super low range with splitter gears and a hefty load capacity. It’s much more comfortable, easier to drive and just better at everything. The NSP can carry more. I don't by new either, the hilux is a company car with a fuel card, unlimited private use.. it is a tax thing. No issues so far. Lada had lots of problems and is not reliable. Bug out vehicle needs to be trusted. The mining industry has tried most manufacturers, and now only use Toyota. The vehicles get hammered in open pit and underground mines, no other makes of light vehicles hold up. |
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Post by spinifex on Jul 28, 2021 10:03:56 GMT 10
Totally agree.
I experimented with owning a Mitsubishi 4wd once ... suffice to say I returned to Toyota after 2 years.
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Post by Joey on Jul 28, 2021 10:43:17 GMT 10
After having to drive hiluxes and now starting to get 78 cruisers for my work car in the mines, I'm glad I never bought a Toyota myself. Nothing but issues with the hiluxes auto boxes always going into limp mode towing a 2.4t trailer up a ramp, had to get the Toyota dealership to reprogram the boxes because all 3 were cactus from new.
Glad I got a navara for my own car, so much more comfier and economical over the luxes.
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Post by spatial on Jul 28, 2021 11:55:43 GMT 10
Breaking down in a GAZ vehicle in woop woop will be a catastrophic disaster. Also relationships between Russia and the west are very strained, there are ongoing sanctions etc.. Getting spare parts could be very problematic. Things like non standard tires has caused me grief in the past. Ok this thread has now been officially hijacked. Perhaps it is a Hilux thing- never had any issues with Hilux, up till now have only ever had manual gear boxes. Toyota does has best reputation for reliability, spares and maintenance is more easily found. www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/visualizing-best-selling-car-america-every-year-1978Since 1997 the toys have dominate the US market baring a Honda in 2001  |
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Post by frostbite on Jul 28, 2021 13:19:12 GMT 10
This is a real bugout vehicle, will go places your jap rubbish can't even dream of reaching:  Daughter-in-law bringing home dinner. |
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Post by malewithatail on Jul 28, 2021 13:41:21 GMT 10
My Mitsubishi Triton 2.6 petrol carby engine with lp gas duel fuel conversion has 789,000 km on it and still starts and runs well. Uses or leaks a bit of oil. Its carried much stuff for the farm and was my solar installation company vehicle for many years. Its now used on the farm as a fire truck with 1,000 liter ibc on the tray, and a 550 liter trailer with pump and hoses on behind. Totally overloaded, but its never complained. Replaced the head gasket once, alternator and starter once or twice, it has a 80 watt solar panel screwed to the bonnet to charge the battery with an isolating switch. Starts 1st turn on lp gas and after 3 or 4 turns on petrol. I've even run it on wood gas. The duel battery system is still operational, without the 2nd battery and the 1990's modified square wave inverter still works as well. It does have an electronic ignition module, but no computer and there is a spare module triple wrapped in foil under the front seat.
Don't take life too seriously, it isn't permanent.
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Post by spatial on Jul 29, 2021 7:35:44 GMT 10
After having to drive hiluxes and now starting to get 78 cruisers for my work car in the mines, I'm glad I never bought a Toyota myself. Nothing but issues with the hiluxes auto boxes always going into limp mode towing a 2.4t trailer up a ramp, had to get the Toyota dealership to reprogram the boxes because all 3 were cactus from new. Glad I got a navara for my own car, so much more comfier and economical over the luxes. Had a look into the Hilux gearbox, it was an issue with previous Hilux models but has has long since been fixed. The new 2.  now has 150kw and 500NM vs preciously 130kw and 450NM. Electronics have been upgraded. The ride is still a bit harder - that is the cost for better off-road ability. |
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Post by spinifex on Jul 29, 2021 8:55:38 GMT 10
I think reliability in new toyotas (ie last 10 years) has declined a lot from the days of the LN106 hilux and 75 series diesel cruisers.
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Post by qlder on Jun 26, 2022 17:19:07 GMT 10
My nps 300, 1999 mod will go most of the places I need to get to, albeit slowly, but I can and have fixed it beside the road when needed. It is my go to bov.
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Post by Joey on Jun 26, 2022 17:32:48 GMT 10
Breaking down in a GAZ vehicle in woop woop will be a catastrophic disaster. Also relationships between Russia and the west are very strained, there are ongoing sanctions etc.. Getting spare parts could be very problematic. Things like non standard tires has caused me grief in the past. Ok this thread has now been officially hijacked. Perhaps it is a Hilux thing- never had any issues with Hilux, up till now have only ever had manual gear boxes. Toyota does has best reputation for reliability, spares and maintenance is more easily found. www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/visualizing-best-selling-car-america-every-year-1978Since 1997 the toys have dominate the US market baring a Honda in 2001 I would think that a lot of those numbers have been skewed by government and fleet sales |
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Post by d on Jun 28, 2022 6:39:35 GMT 10
I was running a parts department when TATA tried selling the xenon here in Aus, waiting 6 weeks for an oil filter from India was a bit hard to take for these these new owners.
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now has 150kw and 500NM vs preciously 130kw and 450NM. Electronics have been upgraded. The ride is still a bit harder - that is the cost for better off-road ability.