Morgo
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Post by Morgo on Dec 13, 2021 16:01:28 GMT 10
lol, I had no idea what AdBlue was until today, none of our landcruisers need it or even the Audi, nor my Jeep (petrol  ) Seriously though, just seems like everything china stops exporting we just need to start producing ourselves and be better off for it. |
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Post by bug on Dec 13, 2021 16:41:46 GMT 10
lol, I had no idea what AdBlue was until today, none of our landcruisers need it or even the Audi, nor my Jeep (petrol ) Seriously though, just seems like everything china stops exporting we just need to start producing ourselves and be better off for it. Yep. The factory would be a lot cleaner too. All this crap from china of late may be a wake up call for our oil and import dependent economic policy, and a breath of life for our manufacturing industry. |
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Post by bug on Dec 13, 2021 16:43:44 GMT 10
I love seeing that stuff. China can do all the economic bullying they want, but they can't stop the sun from shining and the wind from blowing here. There's a bunch of hydrogen factories being built around the country now. Really hope they succeed. |
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Post by tactile on Dec 13, 2021 17:16:02 GMT 10
I'm not sure if China is doing this one deliberately...any of these processes are fairly energy intensive. I wouldn't be surprised if this is just a byproduct of their energy problems. Either way, if it gets us back doing another process locally again then its all good.
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Post by grumble on Dec 13, 2021 20:35:45 GMT 10
Even better we just stop importing equipment fitted with engines that have the adblue system installed and use the diesel engines that run perfectly fine without it and meet the pollution requirements Caterpiller have both types of engines in their machines for an example a 972M loader doesn't use adblue but a 330F excavator does so really its just a matter of looking at whats more important down the track
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Post by Joey on Dec 13, 2021 21:18:04 GMT 10
Even better we just stop importing equipment fitted with engines that have the adblue system installed and use the diesel engines that run perfectly fine without it and meet the pollution requirements Caterpiller have both types of engines in their machines for an example a 972M loader doesn't use adblue but a 330F excavator does so really its just a matter of looking at whats more important down the track Sadly because we are just a tiny blip on the map for demand in trucks, pretty much majority of the line haul trucks imported to Aust are made to Euro standards, and they are the ones pushing all this enviro things for exhaust systems. The same crowd are also the ones pushing for full electric trucks as well. |
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Post by spatial on Dec 14, 2021 7:18:40 GMT 10
Mobil garage in Tamworth is out of fuel - states no deliveries of fuel as trucks have runout of Adblue. Hoping to open tomorrow.
Stocks were down overnight due to massive increase in inflation, it is all getting very real.
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Post by tactile on Dec 14, 2021 7:39:40 GMT 10
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Post by bug on Dec 14, 2021 7:55:39 GMT 10
Even better we just stop importing equipment fitted with engines that have the adblue system installed and use the diesel engines that run perfectly fine without it and meet the pollution requirements Caterpiller have both types of engines in their machines for an example a 972M loader doesn't use adblue but a 330F excavator does so really its just a matter of looking at whats more important down the track Sadly because we are just a tiny blip on the map for demand in trucks, pretty much majority of the line haul trucks imported to Aust are made to Euro standards, and they are the ones pushing all this enviro things for exhaust systems. The same crowd are also the ones pushing for full electric trucks as well. Yes and that needs to happen. All of those long haul trucks travel through urban centres and the number of them is astounding these days. Unless we restrict large trucks to outside of urban areas (not practical) there must be emmission controls. Diesel exhaust is known to cause a range of health problems from learning impairment to respiratory ailments and premature death. These things are far more important than someone's preference for an engine type. |
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Post by grumble on Dec 14, 2021 9:40:04 GMT 10
Sadly because we are just a tiny blip on the map for demand in trucks, pretty much majority of the line haul trucks imported to Aust are made to Euro standards, and they are the ones pushing all this enviro things for exhaust systems. The same crowd are also the ones pushing for full electric trucks as well. Yes and that needs to happen. All of those long haul trucks travel through urban centres and the number of them is astounding these days. Unless we restrict large trucks to outside of urban areas (not practical) there must be emmission controls. Diesel exhaust is known to cause a range of health problems from learning impairment to respiratory ailments and premature death. These things are far more important than someone's preference for an engine type. both types of diesel engine I refer to meet US, AUS and European emission standards the only difference is one is based around adblue and the other isn't. the greatest issue we will always face in Australia is our logistics require a tailored solution rather than following what others do to sort out their issues EV's will be a large part of future transport but we still need to deal with the overall logistical nightmare that is Australia and that is never going to be a simple solution nor will it be cheap because we have the population of a large city spread over a land mass the size of Europe. There is always the simple solution of simply making everyone live in high density mega cities with a highly functional public transport system with a central localized distribution center of essential goods supplied by a fleet of EV's but i am pretty sure people wont like giving up their hobby farms and so on to be jammed in like sardines but if that what it takes it is what will happen eventually |
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Post by malewithatail on Dec 14, 2021 12:27:13 GMT 10
and if we stop accepting Chinese stuff, our tips wont be as full of their rubbish.
The curse exchange...."May the flees of a thousand camels nest under your armpits"
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Post by bug on Dec 14, 2021 14:35:47 GMT 10
and if we stop accepting Chinese stuff, our tips wont be as full of their rubbish. The curse exchange...."May the flees of a thousand camels nest under your armpits" Yes indeed. Their previous tantrum of being happy to sell us crap but refusing to take it back for recycling turned out to be a prelude of further tantrums. |
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Post by Beno on Dec 14, 2021 14:44:15 GMT 10
We brought the crap so who was the biggest fool?
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Post by tactile on Dec 14, 2021 15:39:46 GMT 10
We gotta build our own crap now...  |
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Post by SA Hunter on Dec 14, 2021 21:59:52 GMT 10
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Post by tomatoes on Dec 24, 2021 8:34:33 GMT 10
Anyone seen an update on this?
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Post by Beno on Dec 24, 2021 9:14:26 GMT 10
Anyone seen an update on this? the Federal gov made an agreement with incitec to retrofit the plant they were going to close in Brissy. They will upgrade it to make high end urea for a minimum of 3 months then apparently all the problems will be solved. a cool $26 or so million was given to incitec to do this. |
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Post by bug on Jan 3, 2022 15:30:21 GMT 10
Anyone seen an update on this? the Federal gov made an agreement with incitec to retrofit the plant they were going to close in Brissy. They will upgrade it to make high end urea for a minimum of 3 months then apparently all the problems will be solved. a cool $26 or so million was given to incitec to do this. Good on them. Hopefully this wakes up a few beurocrats about how dangerous it is to have your nation's transportation reliant on imports. It's a tiny step though. All it would take was for the CCP to try to invade Taiwan, and all those petrol tankers coming form Singapore to Australia's east coast would stop. We'd be screwed too as there's only a tiny fuel reserve kept here. |
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Post by frostbite on Apr 18, 2022 6:24:13 GMT 10
I was buying ice at a petrol station in regional NSW near the snowfields a few days ago, and saw 2 pallets of ad-blue for sale.
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Post by malewithatail on Apr 18, 2022 8:01:24 GMT 10
Union Pacific in the USA is not transporting ammonia based furtalisers or diesel fuel additive for unspecified reasons. At least our diesel equipment, generator, tractor and so on, are old school mechanical fuel injection, with no need for ad blu etc additives. (And also crank start, even the 12 kva generator can be hand started, although you better eat your wheat bix before you try, it aint easy !)
You know you own an old tractor when.....You have a larger assortment of lubricants, cleaners, fuel and oil treatments than you local hardware store.
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