Tim Horton
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Post by Tim Horton on Apr 6, 2022 4:44:20 GMT 10
In another thread I posted a thing about France planning to put in place a program of food vouchers.. Many saying this could be a plan to buy votes with a upcoming election... But a program like this implies... There will be a vouchered product available.. And a lot of other questions to go with this.. I can't find that post or link now... I know someone can.. --- --- Now this.... The headline saying ....Rationing to be implimented in Spain, and Greece it seems... ?? Maybe other places to come soon ?? I only read a little of it.. Facts, details, experience, thoughts, opinions ?? ?? www.naturalnews.com/2022-04-03-european-nations-start-rationing-food-and-fuel.html |
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iceage
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Post by iceage on Apr 6, 2022 18:17:48 GMT 10
I do know some french friends who tell me that super markets shelves are getting sparse and cooking oil is worth more than gold. Its possible that ww3 is on the horizon with all this but who knows exactly. Situation so far looks similar to the start of ww2.
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Post by SA Hunter on Apr 6, 2022 22:03:12 GMT 10
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Post by graynomad on Apr 18, 2022 23:02:02 GMT 10
There was rationing in previous WWs so it's reasonable to assume there will be again if things touch off in Europe. I doubt that anyone will starve because of it, but if you haven't got stuff put aside your diet might be a tad bland for a few years.
Top of the list for rationing would be fuel I think.
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bug
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Post by bug on Apr 19, 2022 9:49:44 GMT 10
There was rationing in previous WWs so it's reasonable to assume there will be again if things touch off in Europe. I doubt that anyone will starve because of it, but if you haven't got stuff put aside your diet might be a tad bland for a few years. Top of the list for rationing would be fuel I think. Yup. Would be a good idea to buy fuel whilst the fuel excise has been temporarily cut. As bad an idea as the excise cut is, we should at least try to take advantage of it. |
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malewithatail
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Post by malewithatail on Apr 19, 2022 16:02:08 GMT 10
Dont forget to use fuel additive in the drums. I only store petrol in metal drums, but diesel is ok in plastic Jerry cans as it doesn't attack the plasticizer quite as vigorously as petrol does.
Used some petrol I stored over 5 years ago yesterday, as good as the day it was put away, so the additive does work, and also keeping the drum tightly sealed as well is a necessity.
You know you own an old tractor when.....You slow down whilst driving to try and identify the pile of rusted machinery under the brush pile.
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bug
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Post by bug on Apr 19, 2022 16:27:47 GMT 10
Dont forget to use fuel additive in the drums. I only store petrol in metal drums, but diesel is ok in plastic Jerry cans as it doesn't attack the plasticizer quite as vigorously as petrol does. Used some petrol I stored over 5 years ago yesterday, as good as the day it was put away, so the additive does work, and also keeping the drum tightly sealed as well is a necessity. You know you own an old tractor when.....You slow down whilst driving to try and identify the pile of rusted machinery under the brush pile. That's good advice, which I learned the hard way. |
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Post by ausprep130 on Apr 20, 2022 23:30:32 GMT 10
Dont forget to use fuel additive in the drums. I only store petrol in metal drums, but diesel is ok in plastic Jerry cans as it doesn't attack the plasticizer quite as vigorously as petrol does. Used some petrol I stored over 5 years ago yesterday, as good as the day it was put away, so the additive does work, and also keeping the drum tightly sealed as well is a necessity. You know you own an old tractor when.....You slow down whilst driving to try and identify the pile of rusted machinery under the brush pile. My understanding is petrol has two issues 1: it loses volatility when exposed to air, 2: if left in the machine it deteriorates internals such as rubber seals etc. According to this informative and funny article on fuel storage, loss of volatility is miniscule when stored in a properly sealed container. autoexpert.com.au/posts/shelf-life-of-fuel And fuel in storage has no affect on engine internals so in theory the fuel would have had no issues even without fuel stabiliser. Thoughts on that ?? With regards to diesel - it has a longer official shelf life than that of petrol but is susceptible to developing fungus so requires a fungicide. So the question is, will the the standard rate of fungicide be sufficient for long term storage? Or does it require the standard dose periodically? Or should the dose be double/triple the first time? and periodically? |
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malewithatail
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Post by malewithatail on Apr 21, 2022 8:21:33 GMT 10
Keeping the air out of fuel storage will prolong the life a lot, then add the fungicide and reseal properly as if air cant get in, most fungus cant survive.
I always run the fuel out of the fuel systems of small engines and even vehicles, when fitted with a fuel changeover switch, before shutting them off.
Interestingly, really old fuel doesn't seem to go off as quick, as in a old motor, but newer fuel does smell bad after a few months. I think its to do with the ethanol added that sends it off.
And its the ethanol that damages seals and so on as well. The fuel stabilizer is supposed to prevent that happening.
You know you own an old tractor when.....You look forward to a barn sale just to see what old tractors may be lurking in them.
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Beno
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Post by Beno on Apr 21, 2022 11:59:24 GMT 10
If you store fuel in drums place them on a raised platform off the ground and undercover. Place the bungs at 9 o'clock and 3 o'clock. This keeps the bungs and seals wet and stops ingress of air and water due to expansion and contraction. Keep drum filled but not to the brim but not far off. Use one drum at a time and don't be tempted to crack one open to check unless there are issues evident. Drum seals can be used if you have others in your group that may be tempted to open a drum on the sly.
Also use good drums and check their internal linings before and after filling. Use a LED torch instead of a match please.
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