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Post by Tim Horton on May 24, 2022 14:03:45 GMT 10
Here is one for you blokes to chew on.... It seems this is a technology from Israel... Soooo.... There begs a bunch of questions... I'm sure Israel doesn't have the same "winter" as Michigan US.... They have much the same winter as we have... (far north) So, it costs about $2 million US a mile to refit the road.. How much does it cost to equip your electric car to use this ?? What percent of charge can you expect per mile of use ?? If it takes 100 miles to get 10% charge, is that worth it ?? We KNOW who will pay for the road..(hint.. taxpayer) Will there be a charge to the drivers who use this ?? Or a big freebee..?? Facts, details, thoughts, other questions, experience ?? www.cbsnews.com/video/detroit-to-build-electric-car-charging-road/ |
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Post by malewithatail on May 24, 2022 16:14:53 GMT 10
If its possible for the Government dead heads to tax something, they will. Count on it, and with technology to help them its a no brainier. However, technology can work both ways and they haven't figured that one out yet.
You know you own an old tractor when.....Penetrating oil discussions are known as 'politics'.
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Post by frostbite on May 24, 2022 16:31:11 GMT 10
In Australia grubbyment workgroups have been contemplating replacing fuel excise tax with a fee per km travelled, to make up for the reduction in excise as ev's become more popular.
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Post by malewithatail on May 24, 2022 17:21:49 GMT 10
Tracked by your smart phone no doubt. As if I would trust the GPS from the phone, it can take you miles from your route.
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Post by bug on May 28, 2022 17:43:20 GMT 10
If its possible for the Government dead heads to tax something, they will. Count on it, and with technology to help them its a no brainier. However, technology can work both ways and they haven't figured that one out yet. You know you own an old tractor when.....Penetrating oil discussions are known as 'politics'. Already happening. Several of the state dictators have put a tax especially on EVs that other vehicles don't have to pay. Apparantly the cost to the health system of ICE emissions don't matter, but the donations to LibLab by fossil fuel companies certainly does. |
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Post by Tim Horton on May 30, 2022 4:47:37 GMT 10
To go with the electric highway idea.. I saw an add for an expensive car brand showing they have a pad available you put on your garage floor and it charges the electric car without touching much the same way the electric highway works..
So it is said it costs about $1500 per household to install a plug in car charger.. What would it cost for the home and car units for a park over charging system.. ??
But then if you can afford that brand car, the cost doesn't matter, I guess...
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Post by frostbite on May 30, 2022 5:15:41 GMT 10
Why are government's starting to legislate that in the near future all new vehicles must be EV, whilst at the same time warning that power shortages will become normal soon (and even worse depending on the uptake of EV's).
It's almost like they don't want people to own vehicles.
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Post by tactile on May 30, 2022 8:09:59 GMT 10
There are a couple of things that the coming electrification of transport that have governments worried; loss of fuel excise, and the driving automation that comes with these cars will decimate traffic fines...they are going to have to wean themselves off the billions of revenue that this brings them or find another way to skim the funds back some other way.
I think there will be push-back against these wireless charging methods, they are very inefficient with large power losses.
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Post by bug on May 30, 2022 9:36:06 GMT 10
Driving automation - works just fine on ICE vehicles. There are already trucks that have diesel engines and are automated. Not legal for use in Australia.
Fuel excise - probably a government concern, but not a legitimate one. GST is still paid on the electricity. Tax on the higher purchase price. The cost of air pollution from ICE vehicles is roughly the same as the revenue from fuel excise tax. A government would have to be downright evil not to care about people suffering and dying just because of a possible perceived loss of revenue. Wait...
Agree with the pushback on wireless charging. Governments struggle to maintain roads as it is, without adding this. It's not necessary anyway. Put chargers at shopping centres and rest stops on highways and it should be enough. Nothing will beat the convenience of charging at home from your own solar and battery though. Being completely independent from fuel supply problems should be every preppers goal.
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Post by tactile on May 30, 2022 9:48:30 GMT 10
Driving automation - works just fine on ICE vehicles. There are already trucks that have diesel engines and are automated. Not legal for use in Australia. Correct, electric vehicles will just bring it to the mainstream. I think the two technologies will come on together, although fully effective AI assisted automation will take a bit longer to get here I think.
I would also assume the reduction in vehicle accidents will have the organ donor people a bit worried too?
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Post by bug on May 30, 2022 9:53:55 GMT 10
Yeah, wouldn't be too worried about that. For cars to 'talk' to each other and get the full benefits of automation, every EV manufacturer in the world, plus telecommunications, software etc will all have to get on board with each other and completely standardise. Really can't see this happening anywhere other than China.
It will only be a matter of time until two automated cars have an accident. The legal wrangling would be immense. EVs are fantastic (assuming I can get one that doesn't have a remotely activated kill switch) but I'll never buy a self driving car.
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Post by SA Hunter on May 30, 2022 10:33:58 GMT 10
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Post by tactile on May 30, 2022 13:19:23 GMT 10
I doubt you'll have a a choice...like all the other nanny options now. You may be able to turn it off for a start (like auto stop/start now with ICE), but eventually it'll be in everything..."assisting" for a start and then on all the time. And I don't have any problems with that when you see the decline of driving skills these days. Self driving cant be any more dangerous than some of people they give licenses to here these days.
Sorry...just had to have that old man rant at the end....
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Post by bug on May 30, 2022 13:47:45 GMT 10
I doubt you'll have a a choice...like all the other nanny options now. You may be able to turn it off for a start (like auto stop/start now with ICE), but eventually it'll be in everything..."assisting" for a start and then on all the time. And I don't have any problems with that when you see the decline of driving skills these days. Self driving cant be any more dangerous than some of people they give licenses to here these days.
Sorry...just had to have that old man rant at the end....
Yeah, that's the worry. Would have to be legislated for it to happen though. Car sellers are very sensitive to these things. If they get people not wanting to buy a care unless they can turn it off, it's gonna be able to be turned off. More concerned about the remote disconnect thing though. It, as always, will be sold to us as 'protecting the public' so that police will get the ability to remotely turn off any car. |
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Post by frostbite on May 30, 2022 13:48:19 GMT 10
It would make it much easier to impose lockdowns. Stray more than 5km from your home and the engine shuts down.
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Post by Tim Horton on Jun 1, 2022 3:44:48 GMT 10
It would make it much easier to impose lockdowns. Stray more than 5km from your home and the engine shuts down.
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This brings up an interesting thought.... Thinking ahead, or off the wall, a touch screen in the car...
Where do you need to go today.. ??
Grocery store --- granted
Hardware store --- granted
Bakery --- granted
Pizza carry out --- DENIED -- last medical lab tests not good
Liquor store --- DENIED...
Go ahead.... Tell me this is impossible.....
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Post by frostbite on Jun 1, 2022 10:38:53 GMT 10
Most people don't know that your humble postie bike has more telemetrics than a Formula 1 car.
Today I was in the lunchroom when a manager approached a postie, telling him that they had received an alert that he had gone through a stop sign without stopping. The throttle position sensor, lean angle sensor, speedometer, GPS positioning device all showed he hadn't stopped. When he questioned it they said they would watch the footage from both cameras on the bike.
This is all from a thirdrate government business. Imagine what the police could do once these features are standard on all vehicles.
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Post by norseman on Jun 1, 2022 11:48:35 GMT 10
This is all from a third rate government business. Imagine what the police could do once these features are standard on all vehicles. By law they can from today control if you're allowed to legally have a root or not! Who woulda thunk it! So this car shit is easy! Their only justification is to make it easy for the leghumpers to prosecute you! "NSW sexual consent laws to be enforced from today"
Police confident in new legislation
NSW's new affirmative consent laws come into effect today.
The state government launched its Make No Doubt advertising campaign last week after it passed the new laws in November.
Attorney-General Mark Speakman said the reforms were designed to change social behaviour and support law enforcement.
"These reforms make it clear that if you want to engage in sexual activity with someone, then they need to do or say something to show consent or you need to do or say something to seek consent," he said.
Some in the legal fraternity, such as high-profile barrister Margaret Cunneen SC, fear the new laws could see an influx of sexual assault cases before the courts.
But NSW Child Abuse and Sex Crimes Squad Commander Detective Superintendent Jayne Doherty said police supported the changes.
"The NSW Police Force is supportive of moves to simplify and strengthen consent laws in NSW and a legislative model for affirmative consent," she said.
"The new laws include scope for an evaluation of the legislation by police on investigations, prosecutions, and complainants' experience with the criminal justice system at a later date."
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Post by ausprep130 on Jun 2, 2022 12:18:11 GMT 10
If its possible for the Government dead heads to tax something, they will. Count on it, and with technology to help them its a no brainier. However, technology can work both ways and they haven't figured that one out yet. You know you own an old tractor when.....Penetrating oil discussions are known as 'politics'. It's simply a matter of follow the money. I said to a colleague some years ago that EV will be a bit of a fad unless there is a way to charge money for their use (pun intended). He is adamant that will not happen. I pointed out that Hydrogen is more likely long term as it is easier for big business to make a profit from it. |
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Post by tactile on Jun 2, 2022 12:35:49 GMT 10
This is all from a thirdrate government business. Imagine what the police could do once these features are standard on all vehicles. Thirdrate? I'm not sure if AP even makes the rating system for gov. departments...and that's a scary thought... |
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