Tim Horton
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Post by Tim Horton on Sept 10, 2022 8:36:59 GMT 10
On another forum, there was a discussion of being called for jury duty.. Along with this someone said this..... --- --- So far, the police and courts (at there location) are saying more people are being charged with driving under the influence now that marijuana has been legalized here. --- --- My question has always been... What is available for road side, or other test to determine "impaired" with pot. ?? And what level of impairment is considered legally impaired to drive ?? ?? I have obviously missed something along the way for a long time, but haven't a clue to facts..
For that manor... What about cocaine ?? Heroine ?? You name the substance ??
In North America alcohol levels above .08 is the threshold..
Differences in the laws there and here ?? ??
Wasn't there a medical doctor here for a short while ?? Maybe with answers ??
Facts, details, experience, thoughts ?? ??
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bce1
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Post by bce1 on Sept 10, 2022 9:40:58 GMT 10
Roadside drug impairment tests use a mix of demonstrated impairment with simple tasks and saliva tests.
States in Australia use saliva tests.
The problem is that with alcohol there is for the most part a linear correlation between impairment and breath or blood concentration. But with THC, meth or cocaine that linear relationship doesn’t exist, which makes using these tests in a criminal sense risky.
But .gov has chosen to ignore the inherent poor reliability of these tests and use them anyway, backed up by evidential blood tests.
It is currently a house of cards.
Evidence of drug use does not correlate with impairment. Despite a lot of comments from police, that is simply not the case.
To be fair, most jurisdictions try and use a “package” to assess for drug impairment. But the risk is it shows recent use well, but impairment poorly even with the best intentions.
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malewithatail
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Post by malewithatail on Sept 10, 2022 10:36:31 GMT 10
I remember being pulled up for a drunk driving test, many years ago, and the cop wanted me to walk down the center line of the road and back for 20 feet or so. I passed as I don't drink, but I cant help thinking that's a fairly good test of sobriety.
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Tim Horton
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Post by Tim Horton on Sept 11, 2022 4:19:45 GMT 10
Saliva test backed by a blood test... OK that makes sense..
I do have to say, in the tool and die machine shop I lost many people to a "0" tolerance policy.. It was too bad, but the liability of injury and damage was just too great to do otherwise... The potential for injury and damage on the road is much higher.. This a subject for another thread..
Have to admit at this age and stage of life, bad knees and hips, I would likely not pass a walk the white line test..
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Post by ausprep130 on Sept 14, 2022 15:41:17 GMT 10
Driving while tired, angry or upset are also illegal nowadays although it would be rare for someone to be done for that. It came about because they were often used as excuses and it is very hard to prove how angry, tired or upset someone was, and how it impacted their driving so making it illegal took away the ability to use it as an excuse.
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captain
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Post by captain on Sept 14, 2022 21:59:59 GMT 10
To test for pot in the system, they offer the driver a cold pizza and/or a pack of Tim Tams. If they eat it all in under 2 mins (and want more) then they are charged.
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