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Post by frostbite on May 12, 2023 13:44:14 GMT 10
Stuff fiat. I picked up over$2k worth of pm’s yesterday, in the form of a taipan pump action rifle. Looks like a game changer of rife. It would be out of my licence category. Quicker than a straight pull. And the reviews indicate it’s a sub moa rifle. Finally something to mount my acog onto.
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Post by malewithatail on May 12, 2023 16:39:44 GMT 10
"The corporate bankers are the real problem and you can rest assured that their wealth is buying up the gold"
Cant eat gold either....
Rules that guys wish girls knew.
2) Birthdays, anniversary's and the like are not quests to see if we can find the perfect presents.
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Post by milspec on May 12, 2023 17:05:33 GMT 10
Stealth the elites using a crisis to introduce significant reform seems to be their goto modus operandi. Whilst the world is always changing, in my own lifetime the events of 9/11 seemed to mark the beginnng of a period of radical change. The "War on Terror" was the beginning of giving up your rights (to privacy etc) ... for your safety. It worked so well that people were primed to give up more freedoms for c19 etc. All governments leapt on the bandwagon to become more authoritarian and introduce legislation that opened more doors for them to surveil us and increasingly loose legislation that can facilitate anyone being viewed as criminal through their words/views. A wise modern prepper ought not to be planning for "a" SHTF event but a rolling series of elite initiated crises designed ultimately to erode if not erradicate his/her existence.
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Post by milspec on May 12, 2023 17:13:25 GMT 10
"The corporate bankers are the real problem and you can rest assured that their wealth is buying up the gold" Cant eat gold either.... Rules that guys wish girls knew. 2) Birthdays, anniversary's and the like are not quests to see if we can find the perfect presents. So, in the event of an economic collapse of the US dollar or West in general do you anticipate the world will resort to international trade based on a barter system? The world wont come to a halt, power will shift, trade will continue with a commodity backed currency and life will go on , merrily for some and miserably for others.
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Post by malewithatail on May 12, 2023 17:33:09 GMT 10
If there are central Governments left, I suspect a barter system of some kind, you supply us a ship full of oil, we give u a ship full of grain, or something like that.
But, as there will probably be no central Government to negotiate on behalf of a country, so it will be left to local farmers co ops and so on, and they will run on barter. And we are getting into the swing of things now, bartering for items/labor etc we need, as well as excess food.
And the righteous will inherit the Earth, Ive heard that somewhere before.
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3) If you ask a question you don't want an answer to, expect and answer you don't want to hear.
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Post by tactile on May 12, 2023 21:19:44 GMT 10
I'm starting to think that Raoul in this video is on to something. Watch it carefully if you really care about understanding stuff. He may be wrong, but the thing I think he is right about is that the combined world monetary authorities wont let things collapse. I believe we have not been operating in a normal capitalist system since at least 2008 and probably mid 90s in reality, but the ball really got rolling in the GFC. I think we may see some turbulence while some of these new tech things roll out in the next 10~20 years and then we will have something different to what we see to today's financial system. I haven't got my head around what that looks like yet...
I think he is maybe a bit too optimistic on how some tech plays out, but a lot of his theories are food for thought.
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Post by spatial on May 13, 2023 12:20:12 GMT 10
I'm starting to think that Raoul in this video is on to something. Watch it carefully if you really care about understanding stuff. He may be wrong, but the thing I think he is right about is that the combined world monetary authorities wont let things collapse. I believe we have not been operating in a normal capitalist system since at least 2008 and probably mid 90s in reality, but the ball really got rolling in the GFC. I think we may see some turbulence while some of these new tech things roll out in the next 10~20 years and then we will have something different to what we see to today's financial system. I haven't got my head around what that looks like yet... I think he is maybe a bit too optimistic on how some tech plays out, but a lot of his theories are food for thought.
Every great civilisation has collapsed, despite money printing, and taking all measures available to prevent it. Chinese dynasties, Greeks, Romans Mongols Ottoman Empire etc.. are all now relegated to history. The fact since 2008 they have been pushing the can down the road. makes us much closer to the endgame of catastrophic collapse. With war and pandemics, natural disasters the so called task masters loose control. History rhymes in a repeat.
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Post by tactile on May 13, 2023 15:19:54 GMT 10
As stated in the video...the tools we have to manipulate (and always have had) the economy has the potential to change at a huge rate (energy costs & productivity), the US debt is high, but not as high as some other countries (Japan) and it has been higher there before (end of WW2), so they have plenty of powder to use yet I would say.
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Post by Stealth on May 15, 2023 12:08:21 GMT 10
The problem in this case is not the amount of debt, but the ability to make good on that debt. Not to mention that the Yen is not the world reserve currency. The US dollar is. At least for now. The next few weeks alone will be interesting to see. The amount of messaging going out about it being a problem continues my opinion that they're going to roll with the "We told you so" messaging. You can't be mad with us, we said this was coming. WE WARNED YOU.
They sure have. They just have been making sure that it continues to happen.
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Post by malewithatail on May 15, 2023 14:23:32 GMT 10
They are playing 'the blame game'.....
I may look calm, but in my head Ive already slapped you three times.
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Post by spatial on May 16, 2023 10:42:05 GMT 10
The problem in this case is not the amount of debt, but the ability to make good on that debt. Not to mention that the Yen is not the world reserve currency. The US dollar is. At least for now. The next few weeks alone will be interesting to see. The amount of messaging going out about it being a problem continues my opinion that they're going to roll with the "We told you so" messaging. You can't be mad with us, we said this was coming. WE WARNED YOU. They sure have. They just have been making sure that it continues to happen. Not sure what you mean by that. As US interest rates go up so does the value of currency, so to pay back debt gets much more expensive, also more interest on debt. At Zero interest rates much easier to maintain debt by just paying the interest portion and then roiling over the debt at maturity. Like personals debt Governments fail when debt payment requirements exceed income. Many nations borrowed excessive amount of USD$ debt and now have to pay back in USD which are much higher compared to local currency so instant doubling of debt. A always debt ends badly... The Governments and cohorts get it wrong just about every time. In Aus we were told no interest rate rises till 2024, Now on 11th interest rate hike since April 2022RBA: “In late 2020 and for much of 2021, the board indicated that the first interest rate increase was not expected for 'at least three years', and then not until '2024 or later',” the RBA review said..Yellen: I Don't See a Financial Crisis Occurring 'In Our Lifetimes'
The Fed chair on Tuesday said the country's financial sector is 'very much stronger' than it was years ago. June 27, 2017, at 4:53 p.m.
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Post by malewithatail on May 16, 2023 10:53:56 GMT 10
Like one of my taglines says "How can you tell a Government spokesman is lying.....their lips are moving".
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Post by spatial on May 16, 2023 13:40:46 GMT 10
Like one of my taglines says "How can you tell a Government spokesman is lying.....their lips are moving". Yip, it is one of my key indicators of imminent collapse the government and cohort start saying everything is fine nothing to see here. They start making unrequested comments on the economy. Good article on state of US economy. Lots of scary indicators that preceded previous recessions and depressions. The Bond yield curve has gone nuts, deep in the negative. One month deposited give 5.73% return 30y deposit gives 3.83% ---madness.. The Probability Of A Recession Happening In The Next 12 Months Is The Highest In More Than 40 Years!theeconomiccollapseblog.com/the-probability-of-a-recession-happening-in-the-next-12-months-is-the-highest-in-more-than-40-years/www.gurufocus.com/yield_curve.php1-month yield 5.743% 1-year yield 4.801% 2-year yield 3.992% 10-year yield 3.489% 30-year yield 3.828%
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Post by spatial on May 17, 2023 5:56:52 GMT 10
US Now Spends More Servicing Its Debt Than On National DefenseMinistries this directly impacts the US default risk.. www.zerohedge.com/economics/us-now-spends-more-servicing-its-debt-national-defenseIf you want one stat to sum up why debt-ceiling negotiations are so fraught this time around, making them both harder to conclude and yet more important for markets, this is probably it. Estimated annualized debt-servicing costs are about 90% higher than they were back in 2011. This is partially due to an exploding debt pile, but also due to a significant shift higher in US yields.
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Post by Stealth on May 17, 2023 14:42:07 GMT 10
Prime Minister Anthony Albanese cancels Quad meeting after US President Joe Biden pulls outBiden pulling out of this meeting should be a pretty clear warning bell to anyone that still thinks that there's no real risk or that things are going to be just fine. The quad is one of the most important relationships to the US at the moment, given the international climate. To have their president bail not only implies that the quad is 'not as important' as the issues that he's returning to deal with. The fact that he feels the requirement to be in the room rather than discuss the situation over skype or zoom meetings is pretty telling imo. And 'We're just not important enough' isn't viable, the US has been working on the quad for some time now. It's important. But the collapse of the entire US economy and everything attached to it is MORE important. That should send chills down the backs of most. Essentially we're waiting on US politicians to decide who's going to blink first. And as was pointed out by City Prepping on Youtube, the closer we get to the date that they make a decision the less likely that anything can be done about it, because legislation and rules take time to propagate through the system. It could already be too late, given that metric.
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Post by malewithatail on May 17, 2023 17:02:38 GMT 10
Or somethings bigger behind it, perhaps WW3 and some nukes ? Just a thought, he wants to be in the bunker before Putin sneezes and sets off the big red button.
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Post by Stealth on May 17, 2023 19:46:06 GMT 10
Possible, but I actually think it's the other way around. I suspect that the second the American dollar is no longer the default reserve currency there's going to be big moves from nasty players. The last time there was financial crisis, government employees were the first to feel the sting. Ie. military. Pretty hard to get someone to fight your wars for you if they aren't being paid to be there. If America itself isn't under direct threat you're going to struggle to get meat shields to sign up. The second there's warheads on foreheads on US soil that will change, but they aren't dumb enough to do that without severe provocation. Best to watch them destroy themselves from the inside with a massive financial crash and then watch them flail helplessly when you salami-slice land for yourself at an exponential rate.
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Post by malewithatail on May 18, 2023 9:46:17 GMT 10
To "build back better", the system must be destroyed first. All going according to plan. America can still finance the interest payments on the existing debt, and pay most Federal employees, Military etc, Contractors would be in for a hard time, and 10 million or so Public Servants would be sent on furlow, no great loss ! Interesting article here. www.brookings.edu/2023/04/24/how-worried-should-we-be-if-the-debt-ceiling-isnt-lifted/Would it affect us ? Ultimately, its gunna affect the whole world, and will be a slow grind into chaos, but the word is 'slow'. The USA gets an extraordinary amount of taxes in every month and within a month, most back wages would be payed, and perhaps the country would start to live within its means. Does Australia live within its means ? Certainly not ! Only we have no debt ceiling and can keep increasing Govt borrowing (and waste) indefinitely, leading to a situation that will eventually be much, much worse than that facing America now. Perhaps China will end up owning Australia. Its the same catch cry of 'build back better", and it will affect us all, the whole world. It cant be stopped either, the momentum gathered by these financial pirates is unstoppable. We, as preppers, know that something bad's coming and make provisions to see through it and survive. Weather it happens now, or next year, or in 10 years time, the whole house of cards is coming down, the smoke and mirrors can only fool people for so long. Hence the rush for the elites to get control through the Unhealth system, money supply, laws and regulations, food supply and disruptions/legislation re chemicals used in food production, energy (electric especially through the smoke screen of global warming and shutting down of power plants), controlling communications (you have a cell phone ? You are under their control, like it or not), and many other aspects of daily life. Anyone notice that furtaliser is hard to get in quantity ? Not just a few bags at Bunnings, but 1,000 tons for ground preparation now for winter wheat etc. No furtaliser, no food, more control. Me thinks its time to expand the compost pile further. This is my favorite tagline for a while. I prefer peace, but if trouble must come, let it come in my life time so my children may live in peace.
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Post by Stealth on May 18, 2023 16:45:55 GMT 10
America can still finance the interest payments on the existing debt, and pay most Federal employees, Military etc, Contractors would be in for a hard time, and 10 million or so Public Servants would be sent on furlow, no great loss ! IMO, the loss of public service roles could be pretty devastating in a lot of circumstances: A potential 2160000 people furloughed (at worst and if every job went away tomorrow) would be absolute chaos. Not only on our economy, but on our society. From ALL of these industries. Of which health care and social services and education are two of the largest. That's not just school education for kids. That's tertiary education. Trade education. People no longer training doctors. People no longer providing instruction for new technologies in plumbing. And don't write off public administration and safety. It'd suck pretty badly if suddenly no one could be bothered to open the local library or state parks because they're not earning a wage, or no one booked regular preventative backburns for a local region with a huge town in the centre that had no effective local fire services. It's pretty flippant to believe that the public services are entirely unnecessary. Wasteful? Absolutely at times. Necessary? I'd argue absolutely. Let's see how long it takes for people's garbage not being taken away because there's no local council to negotiate removal contractors before Joe Public starts shouting about his rights and starts having a go at anyone that doesn't seem to be struggling with a mild discomfort. That's a huge chunk of people to suddenly lose their incomes and a massive burden that has to be transferred somewhere. A collapse of just those services alone would be pretty monumental with no alternative available to not only pick up where they left off but cover the additional load created by their lack of employment. I don't know how much the US public service covers but I'd have to hazard a guess that it'd be much larger. Chaos. Absolute chaos.
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Post by Joey on May 19, 2023 6:24:28 GMT 10
The biggest problem with our public sector and government departments, is they are always far too top-heavy and with endless backroom bureaucrats wasting money warming seats. Many of those positions could be scrapped and those people put back into front-line positions where they are needed to serve customers directly. How often do you go into a government department office such as centrestink or main roads and see only 1 or 2 people serving with a massive line of people waiting a very long time to be served? The same could be said for the health department, too much budget is wasted on these backroom positions and not on nursing staff levels while every level of government guts the health budget every year in their annual budgets while scratching their heads wondering why emergency rooms are always in the news for ramping and being put on bypass to the next hospital in busy times.
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