Grid down, cell phones out, what u gunna do ?

If, and when, the world as we know it reboots itself there will only be three things that we will care about, water, food and shelter.

Most/the majority of Australia's population do not produce any of their needs regardless of what they are and when it does hit the fan who is going to care or gain from radio communications?

MWT since you like quotes so much, here is one I repeat often.


Albert Einstein is often quoted as having said: "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones".

So do I, but not used every day. I do much more listening than talking. I also have a 1kw permit. Had, I haven't renewed it.

There is no need to confuse your troops with call-signs and theory, that's what your there for, just the basics of which channel to talk on and what button to press. Well and good if two or three can use the ham station, but everyone in the tribe needs a UHF handheld.







Magic Smoke

Magic Smoke is the stuff used to build integrated circuits, like computer chips.

Once it all goes to shit why can't you just use Ham or Marine VHF etc when you want? Like who the fark is gonna be out there to come stop you?

When Allied forces landed on the beaches of Normandy on June 6, 1944, Hitler was forced to move much of his focus and military strength to the west to prevent an Allied victory there. Believing that the Allies would be entrenched in Western Europe, Japan saw this as an opportunity to regain a stronger foothold in the Pacific theater of war and proceeded to carry out an aggressive campaign out of Okinawa. The Japanese high command, especially Hideki Tojo, was determined to press ahead with their own plans to reconquer the rest of Asia, much of it vulnerable after the disastrous Pacific Campaigns.

Consequently, when the news of success of the D-Day landings should have reached the Japanese people, all major media outlets in Japan were ordered to censor any news of the Allies’ progress. This censorship was in order to ensure loyalty and encourage the Japanese people to focus on pushing forward with their own plans of conquest, while totally ignoring the success of the Allies in Europe.

The few Japanese citizens who did learn of the news of the D-Day landings quickly realized that the Allies had achieved an important victory that would cause major setbacks for the Japanese Empire. Consequently, Japanese citizens began to expect the worst and many citizens started to question the purpose of the war, which, in turn, discouraged them from supporting their government’s policy of aggressive action in Asia.

Ultimately, as the news spread, the Japanese people responded with fear and uncertainty. Though Japan had hoped to gain the advantage in the Pacific theater of the war, the success of the Allies in Europe reminded them how powerful the Allied forces were and cast doubt on their own plans of conquest. Consequently, the reaction of the Japanese people to the Allied success in Europe was of worry, dread, and uncertainty.

Without some form of alternate communications, the Japanese people would not have known of the terrible outcome that they were facing from the allied invasion.

Fast forward to now. The Government controls all comms, sat phones as well as wired and mobiles. The internet is down, easy to do and the carriers that supply these service to Australia must have a procedure in place to give the Government control if requested. So, all comms down, no info, rumors abound, shortage of foods and supplies, how you going to find out whats happening ? Is it an invasion, or just a local outage ? Now the grid goes down. You go to your solar powered ham station, put out a call, and someone in the next state answers and tells you that its a outage caused by a .....and services will be back soon. But, what if they told you that Australia was being invaded ? You at least know and can plan your defense, spread the word around and we can be ready. Who knows what will happen....but the more alternatives you have, the better. Just like one firearm wont do it all, and alternatives are just good prepping.







Any fool can make a rule.

Mate, that's an awesome post and there is a lot to learn from it and the history you illustrate!  Denial of information, lies, disinformation and blocking of communication etc are tactics used by all Governments and their security services when it suits them!   There are really strong precedents both past and present right here in Australia!  Just look at what Labor Government did with their extreme censorship during WW2 and more recently just take a look at the propaganda the same are allowing to be distributed  here regarding the Ukraine/Russia conflict etc.  The shroud of secrecy surrounding the WW2 bombing of Darwin is a classic example and I could mention many others!  But I've given the spooks monitoring the forum enough to stick in my file for now! 

"Grid down, cell phones out, what u gunna do ?"

Fondly relive the times before 1990 ... it was a simpler world ... a closer world ... where you spoke face to face with the people that mattered and the internet wasn't all pervading.
Somehow ... we all survived without a data network ... imagine that!