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Post by grumble on Jan 29, 2023 11:29:16 GMT 10
I think u mean HF, not VHF...... My favorite conspiracy theory is that everything is gonna be all right... Probably it was a very long time ago i remember it was a big codan i think it was the actual call sign used that was victor hotel foxtrot " VHF" or Victor Hotel Juliet 'VHJ' then the rest of the call sign it was so long ago now memories fade, but I do remember the radio chatter in the mornings and the fishing boats chatter of a night some in English but mostly some other dialect so much better than staring at a phone screen though.
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Post by malewithatail on May 13, 2023 8:59:03 GMT 10
Just came across this gem of an observation in the news this morning. Speaking over Zoom from Kyiv on a sub-zero morning, Yuriy Matsyk describes Ukraine's battle to stay online. "In this war, you can survive without water, heat and comfort, but you cannot survive without electricity and communication." Without internet or mobile network connectivity, people have no way of finding out if loved ones have survived. That puts communications into perspective, and made me think about our strategy for it. I was really only thinking about gathering intel during an 'event' but for checking on loved ones, I was considering a secondary use as most of my immediate family who want to be safe are here already. However, for those who's loved ones are not in a safe place, how are u going to find out if they are OK with no internet or cell phone coverage ? I recommend you read the full article in the link below, it brings up some interesting questions as to connectivity. And yes, we have Starnet out here, much more reliable and 100's times faster than anything Telstra could offer. www.abc.net.au/news/science/2023-02-27/ukraine-internet-russia-rocket-strikes-connected-kyiv/102009234One more quote..... "Where do the rockets hit this time, who died? With all these horrors, a person is saved by communication." Rules that guys wish girls knew. 7) Crying is blackmail.
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Post by malewithatail on May 18, 2023 12:55:59 GMT 10
Sorting through a few boxes of projects I have made over the years, and I came across a crystal set I made into a matchbox many years ago. This has got me thinking about making a model that would cover short wave as well. And given that a crystal set doesn't need any electric to run and operates from the received signal, it may be a very useful "if all else fails backup backup'. I have heard of others making such a set, and adding a single transistor amplifier that runs from a 1.5 v battery for almost ever as its power drain is so low. Its also possible to run it from a homemade battery using vinegar etc. Even a homemade generator from an old tape recorder motor and a capacitor to store the energy you generate would power it for ages.
Anyway, that's a project for the future. Anyone interested I will keep informed as to the design etc.
The main disadvantage is that it needs a long aerial wire to pick up signals, but a spool of fine wire isn't expensive nor is it heavy to carry.
Harden your hearts gentlemen and gentlewomen, for the fight against evil is close at hand and I hope you are prepared for more than just surviving.
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Post by tactile on Nov 9, 2023 6:54:44 GMT 10
Looks like us Optus users had a SHTF practice run yesterday! Was fun watching people lose their mind in the city!
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Post by malewithatail on Nov 9, 2023 7:07:55 GMT 10
halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/phone-and-internet-outages-hits-australia-millions-without-phonesQuote from above.. "Internet and VoIP phone calls for millions of Australians are out at this hour. Authorities say they're investigating possible cyberattack as trains and other major infrastructure "disrupted" in most of Australia. It also took out the train system in Melbourne. This is why I tell my readers, and listeners to my radio show, YOU MUST HAVE COMMS GEAR. Get a CB Radio or a HAM (Shortwave) radio. You **MUST** have some means of communication if the systems go down. Gov't down there says they have no idea why the systems are down, or when they might be back up. Think about such a thing happening HERE. Where we are. How would you communicate with loved ones? If you had a CB, you could do so for several, maybe even ten to twenty miles, if they - or you - are in their car and you have a Base station radio. This stuff is not expensive and it really CAN help in a jam." They fear love because it creates a world they can't control.
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Post by malewithatail on Nov 9, 2023 7:23:34 GMT 10
Were is your portable AM/FM radio right now ? Do the battery's work or have they leaked and its useless ? Consider what happens if u lose all electric, no TV, and the net/phones go down. Where would you go for information ?
Some phones have an FM radio in them, but you need to connect some wired earphones as an aerial for it to work, unless u are in a very strong reception area, and you probably shouldn't be in such an area anyway due to the RF fields that u would be exposed to.
We are on the Aldi (Telstra) network, so not affected, but its a good reminder to all of us to check our comms plan. But Ive got a digital clock/radio in the bedroom.kitchen......DAh no power.....
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Post by tactile on Nov 9, 2023 7:32:22 GMT 10
I'm not sure how Android stuff works these days (or any other day actually!), but if you had Apple gear getting access to a WiFi network would of given you access to Imessage so it wasn't that big of a deal.
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Post by malewithatail on Nov 9, 2023 7:54:41 GMT 10
I'm thinking of a network wide outage, like the Opus debarkle. No Public WiFi, those with Apple gear are in deep doggi do do. Apple stuff, especially the newer bells and whistle gear, usually needs the support of the network to operate, even to work off line is difficult.
I usually listen to the ABC News Radio on my Android phone via the net whilst working around the farm, but it does have a FM radio inbuilt, and it does work, so in a grid/comms down situation, I can still tune in to intel from the standard radio services, with some inconvenience, but still its information. Even though our mobile service is s..t, its still just good enough for a streaming radio service most times, not fast enough for video though.
Now consider if the networks go down, the radio stations are also out, whats going on ? Thats exactly where Ham radio comms will shine. Information will be available from the local Ham repeater (2 meters usually), and you don't need a license to listen, just a suitable receiver and there are quite a few on the market.
Accept your past without regret, handle your present with confidence, and face your future without fear.
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Post by tactile on Nov 9, 2023 8:06:51 GMT 10
I'm thinking of a network wide outage, like the Opus debarkle. No Public WiFi, those with Apple gear are in deep doggi do do. Apple stuff, especially the newer bells and whistle gear, usually needs the support of the network to operate, even to work off line is difficult. No different to any other phone, Apple, Android, Symbian, Harmony...no mobile service or WiFi and you have a brick.
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Post by Stealth on Nov 9, 2023 8:17:52 GMT 10
I had a lot of friends that were affected. Several of them had internet again quite early on in the piece but not phones. That took a long time. What I noticed was that it was mostly younger folks feeling a bit lost. They've never experienced a time where you weren't in full contact with the world at all times, so to not have the internet or phone calls available in your pocket was a very weird experience for a lot of them.
It definitely made me reassess my thoughts on things though. The amount of things that went down that I wouldn't have thought of like transport and comms to emergency services etc. For every major thing that went down, there's another that Telstra have control of as the other major provider in the country. Only one went out. Imagine BOTH going out at the same time.
But ultimately, having radios and comms plans won't fix those failures. I'll just revert to childhood and remember that people have spent the whole of history not having instant comms with others riding around in their pockets. And being in a rural area helps a lot to be honest. As always that bush telegraph is still a thing. But those in city or larger centres who rely on networks of any sort clearly are going to be in abject chaos if the networks go down for any more than a day or two.
I need to get a good winder/solar radio though. It's been on my list of things to get for a while now and I keep forgetting. Online shopping, here I come!
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Post by malewithatail on Nov 9, 2023 9:03:30 GMT 10
"I need to get a good winder/solar radio though. It's been on my list of things to get for a while now and I keep forgetting. Online shopping, here I come!"
Get one with a solar charger as well, and very important....HAVE SHORT WAVE bands on it.
When we do the shopping, e get cash out from the bank first, then do the shop. If we spend more than we have, no issue, that's what cards are for, but in a breakdown like this, cash will be king, we can always put some stuff back that we don't need.
The radios and comms plans are, initially at least, for getting all family accounted for and back here, then comes the intel phase, finding out whats happening. If there is still terrestrial or satellite TV, the local radio stations are on air, its just a nuisance outage, but if everything's off line, then its more serious and that's when the preps above will pay off many, many times over.
Just ordered a couple of bricks of .22 ammo and .177 air rifle slugs. You never know. My sister is also getting an air rifle as well, mainly to dispose of the cane toads, but it can also get you small game in a pinch.
I suspect that Telstra learnt a lot from their big tubesteak up a few years ago. Perhaps a family should have a mixture of providers, you with Telstra, someone else with Optus etc. The price of phones now, a $10/month plan may be a good backup.
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Post by malewithatail on Nov 9, 2023 9:38:38 GMT 10
Reports that Optus went down again this morning and still isn't up, some mobiles work, but internet is out for a vast swathe of people.
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Post by malewithatail on Nov 9, 2023 9:45:47 GMT 10
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Post by Beno on Nov 9, 2023 14:05:43 GMT 10
“Grid down, cell phones out, what u gunna do ?”
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Post by frostbite on Nov 9, 2023 15:39:49 GMT 10
I’m with Optus. The outage had no impact on me. I only use my phone for text and calls (it doesn’t connect to the internet), and I’m more than happy not to contact anyone for extended periods of time. I think the duress button on my motorcycle went out, but I’ll never use it. I like to resolves issues myself, if you know what I mean.
As for contacting loved ones in an extended outage, I have a sat phone, my daughter is getting the same from Santa (she was in Iceland last week putting her order in direct to the big guy), and both my kids know how to get to the retreat, know where the spare keys are buried, and have the tools, skills and attitude to deal with any impediments on the way.
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Post by malewithatail on Nov 9, 2023 16:57:06 GMT 10
Weve had a few satellite glitches, so the docking feature on the mobile as a hotspot is handy, and its Telsra as well.
As we are at our BOL anyway, it only remains to get those home who are at Uni or in town, relatively easy.
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Post by Joey on Nov 9, 2023 17:44:03 GMT 10
Another week and my HF radio arrive. It's all telstra country up here so we weren't affected by the outage. I did get a couple of emails from suppliers at work sending out messages that their phone systems would be offline and just to place orders via email.
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Post by PrepGoldCoast on Nov 9, 2023 18:33:40 GMT 10
halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/phone-and-internet-outages-hits-australia-millions-without-phonesQuote from above.. "Internet and VoIP phone calls for millions of Australians are out at this hour. Authorities say they're investigating possible cyberattack as trains and other major infrastructure "disrupted" in most of Australia. It also took out the train system in Melbourne. This is why I tell my readers, and listeners to my radio show, YOU MUST HAVE COMMS GEAR. Get a CB Radio or a HAM (Shortwave) radio. You **MUST** have some means of communication if the systems go down. Gov't down there says they have no idea why the systems are down, or when they might be back up. Think about such a thing happening HERE. Where we are. How would you communicate with loved ones? If you had a CB, you could do so for several, maybe even ten to twenty miles, if they - or you - are in their car and you have a Base station radio. This stuff is not expensive and it really CAN help in a jam." They fear love because it creates a world they can't control. Yes was a bit of fun. My carrier runs off Optus and I was no cell for the day. Gave my Son a handheld UHF, on repeater 3 on the gold coast for his school bag. It works from the school grounds. I get VLT03 repeater from anywhere on the gold coast via the Jeep UHF or my handheld UHF. My Son works the UHF fine, usually we use them camping on a more private channel, but on 'Optus day' we were still in touch, if needed. Didn't use it but was great knowing he could contact me any time, and I could be anywhere on the coast working. From my house, using the above, we can communicate over UHF anywhere we can get the repeater. A long long way from base camp
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Post by tactile on Nov 9, 2023 19:18:09 GMT 10
Yes was a bit of fun. My carrier runs off Optus and I was no cell for the day. Gave my Son a handheld UHF, on repeater 3 on the gold coast for his school bag. It works from the school grounds. I get VLT03 repeater from anywhere on the gold coast via the Jeep UHF or my handheld UHF. My Son works the UHF fine, usually we use them camping on a more private channel, but on 'Optus day' we were still in touch, if needed. Didn't use it but was great knowing he could contact me any time, and I could be anywhere on the coast working. From my house, using the above, we can communicate over UHF anywhere we can get the repeater. A long long way from base camp Does your UHF have the selcal function? Would give you another layer of security if you missed your sons call. Get back to your car and your UHF would be giving you an alert that you have had a call.
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Post by malewithatail on Nov 10, 2023 7:54:48 GMT 10
Well done, you were prepared and its a good trial run with the radios.
Just imagine those un prepared, and something really nasty happens. Panic robs you of the ability to think clearly and work out a response. Once the loved ones are confirmed OK, then you can get on with getting them home, securing last minute supplies and so on.
The UHF system of repeaters, generally maintained by the SES, give amazing coverage, ours on the Range can be accessed as far west as Tamworth on high spots and well into the Gold coast using a cheap car based rig, if not a handheld.
Now, take down the TV and radio network.....as well as mobiles from ALL carriers, and internet. satellite is potentially more reliable, but it still rely on ground servers that are vulnerable. (Most run Linux, so don't suffer the issues windows does). For the same reason, satellite based TV/radio is potentially more reliable than terrestrial based services, but still rely on a ground server and studios.
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