Chinese Spy Balloon over Montana??

Ill bet a lot of Americans took shots at it ! Despite the odds of downing it at 10 miles high.

Its down now, I wonder how our Govt would act if the same happened here, or has it already ?







I may be wrong, but that's highly unlikely.

China, like most countries, has infinite methods of spying that are unseen and extremely difficult to stop and instead they chose a balloon which is a huge, slow, easily defeatable object. This is definitely an attempt to disturb the population. Why in THIS method though? Likely because the US can't deny that it was there. The balloon huge and easily seen from a long distance away by your average person even without telescopes of binoculars. This messaging isn't to the US government who very likely knew about its existence well before it got even into US airspace. The amusing thing is that if you look at the wind current patterns and estimated flight path before it reached the US, it looks like it flew the entire length of the western side of Canada through down south before it got there. That makes me think that it was almost entirely impossible that they didn't know it was there. It was probably outside of Canadian air space when they created their response plan.

My guess is that the idea of this balloon was for China to try to panic the people, not the government. Especially people who don't realise that the balloon is only allowed to exist in that space because the US let it.

I'm 100% convinced that the US rubbed their hands together with glee when they realised the opportunity that China had presented them with. "You know what? We can use this. Let it get over our soil. Then we'll use the F22s for their first official air-to-air 'kill' and spin it as a military win". 22s scramble, drop the balloon, US wins that particular little public skirmish. Hearts and minds stuff. Air to air is pretty uncommon these days so the opportunity to take part in a fake dogfight with the slowest target known to any pilot... Well. Your average person is likely going to feel a bit more comfortable going to sleep at night knowing the good and the brave can shoot down something in the air above them.
Anyone that thinks about it for more than a minute is going to have a giggle that THAT's how they chose to spin it because how could you be intimidated by a balloon that was there at the will of their government alone? If they'd wanted it gone quietly and without fuss they'd have dropped it before it even got close. But at the same time panic doesn't wait for logic and I can understand why it might seem disturbing.

What is concerning to me is that China is now messaging directly to the populace rather than the government. They've decided to step the psyops up to public level and that's concerning purely because it means that they're willing to start with public confrontations. This one is very well orchestrated and quite smart. Low scale, zero physical threat, and very very "We don't mean any threat, you can tell because we used a balloon. You can't get mad at us". That seems to be their standard MO. I suspect that if the US want to actually answer by fighting fire with nukes, the next time this happens it'll be "US shoots down Chinese spy balloon just inside of US air space". They'll let it get in and put it down like a rabid dog and they'll spray it all over the news to make sure that not only do the Chinese people know, the US people feel protected. They can't afford not to.

There was another found yesterday floating over Latin America.
The US gumbyment just talked it up of "not being able to shoot it down over populated areas and cause the potential for civilian harm"
I think they were biding their time pulling whatever info they could off it and seeing what info it was sending back to china for future use

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I'm more interested in the technology of the balloon.... The materials, technology, weather knowledge and all used by high altitude balloon flyers should make it not that hard to accomplish... All this much different than the balloons Japan used in WW 2... A number of balloon bombs were found in Saskatchewan, north of Montana state.. So to see a balloon over Montana now doesn't surprise me..

I believe there were Japanese balloons found here in BC... I know there was a bomb dropped on the BC coast by a Japanese float plane brought over by a submarine with the deck shelter for the plane.. There is a small park at the impact site.. The submarine and plane were never seen..

Members of the British Columbia all volunteer, PCMR, Pacific Coast Militia Rangers investigated a number of small fires in the forests, but could not directly tie these incidents to Japanese balloon bombs...

Trivia..
As well as the submarine launched plane and bomb... Japan did sink a Liberty ship somewhere on the BC coast... Coincidently it was loaded with plywood... Ship and cargo were shortly refloated and put back in service..

But, did you also read reports of the German spy balloon that was found flying over the Ukraine.  They were targeting the Russian soldiers there…

I wonder weather the payload exploded not because it was hit by the US missile, but self destruction. I certainly would rig it up to self destruct if it was disabled.








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They could of sent a kid up hanging out the side of a Blackhawk with a 22 to knock it out of the sky. Talk about overkill.

Saw a 1-2 minute you tube recorded by a private citizen of the balloon being popped... This some where just off one of the Carolina state coasts..

I suppose the excuse to do this over water is the best place depending on what was in the pay load.. I would be inclined to pop the next one as soon as detected, regardless of location.. The first one may not be that critical, but with the first one being such a success, who knows what the next ones will be ?? And you KNOW there will be more..