tactile
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Post by tactile on Sept 21, 2023 20:23:06 GMT 10
There was a huge backlash a few years ago with the $10k limit they were going to bring in...got stomped on real quick by pollies who's constituents actually got off their butts and complained about it. Its a hot potato politically. If they really want it they just have wait...once the boomers are gone it will go through quick enough. GenX will moan but there not enough of us to make a difference.
All my transactions are through my phone now anyway I'm not fussed.
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Post by malewithatail on Sept 22, 2023 7:34:49 GMT 10
Just like being a good sheeple and toeing the line on masks, lock-downs etc, most Aussies will co toe to the official Govt stance and surrender their cash. And for being such a good citizen, you will be able to participate in society, work, buy stuff, feed your family and generally live, till the next Govt decree that they will follow.
Karl Marx: “Accuse Your Enemy of What You Are Doing, As You Are Doing it to Create Confusion”…
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Post by Beno on Sept 22, 2023 12:14:25 GMT 10
Everyone will lose 1-2.5% of their after tax income to transaction fees. I just had 26 cents stolen from me when i paid for lunch.
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Post by malewithatail on Sept 22, 2023 13:09:39 GMT 10
I seem to remember hearing something like.....
"You will own nothing and be happy"
Houston, we have a problem
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Post by Beno on Dec 12, 2023 9:13:41 GMT 10
Here we go. now the heads reckon we need to pay to have access and use cash. The molestation of our incomes is getting beyond stupid. Hardly anyone is awake let alone cares. The apathy in this country is just plain sad. Pay to use cash (ABC news)
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Post by bug on Dec 12, 2023 10:02:52 GMT 10
Go 'MacQuarrie Bankless'.
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Post by bug on Dec 12, 2023 10:03:42 GMT 10
Here we go. now the heads reckon we need to pay to have access and use cash. The molestation of our incomes is getting beyond stupid. Hardly anyone is awake let alone cares. The apathy in this country is just plain sad. Pay to use cash (ABC news)Spot on. They plan to track every cent you spend and penalise you if you don't comply.
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Post by malewithatail on Dec 12, 2023 10:58:09 GMT 10
Yes comrade.....
If you don't want a sarcastic answer, don't ask a stupid question.
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Post by Stealth on Dec 12, 2023 12:53:40 GMT 10
To be honest, we've all been paying to use cards for how long now? Decades? Being told we have to pay to use cash isn't a surprise at all. What WILL be surprising is if they do bring it in and there's not instant backlash that they're not removing a cost to use cards. Can't claim it costs more to process digital currency if it's the default setting. I mean, they'll TRY to argue that but I can't see them getting far.
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Tim Horton
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Post by Tim Horton on Dec 12, 2023 14:07:43 GMT 10
A ...cashless... scenario I see could be happening, sooner than you think.......
...Hello, local pizza take out.. Can I take your order...?? Yes I'd like a supper large double cheese and peperoni... No.. Our records show your last clinic lab tests and weight indicate you should be ordering the all veggie and tofu pie... And by the way, the records show no more stops at the liquor store or ice cream shop this month for you...
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Post by Beno on Dec 13, 2023 10:25:47 GMT 10
To be honest, we've all been paying to use cards for how long now? Decades? Being told we have to pay to use cash isn't a surprise at all. What WILL be surprising is if they do bring it in and there's not instant backlash that they're not removing a cost to use cards. Can't claim it costs more to process digital currency if it's the default setting. I mean, they'll TRY to argue that but I can't see them getting far. Credit cards yes but I’ve never had to pay eftpos charges until very recently. Business used to pick up that cost due to supposed efficiencies gained over not having to deal with cash and not having to deal with lines of credit. Now that cost is being passed on. Double dipping BS.
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Post by Tim Horton on Dec 13, 2023 10:44:31 GMT 10
Now that cost is being passed on. Double dipping BS. == == In Canada, British Columbia at least, it is illegal to add a percentage to a purchase for using a card.. I saw a number of small businesses that would openly advertise plus (?)% for credit card.. Frankly, these were mostly small businesses owned, run by immigrant families from India.. You can build the percentage into the price of an item, or service, but not charge more for card use.. It seemed a common practice as long as no one complained it seemed...
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Post by moopere on Dec 13, 2023 18:26:34 GMT 10
The ANZ closed the branch in town about 12 months ago and removed the ATM machine, so we now transferred it all across to the local credit union, stuff em ! Yeah, I've been observing this in country victoria where my family lives. As the big four disappear people just transfer their accounts to credit unions or smaller banks. My family seems to be going with Bendigo Bank. I'm with them over here in the west. Got in years ago when they were energetically rolling out their suburban branches. Theres got to be money to be made in servicing Mum and Dad in the burbs and in the regions surely? The USA dollar is finished, the debt is so high it can never be re-payed and the markets now that. Why it hasn't collapsed by now is a mystery, perhaps the Govt is better at pulling the wool over most peoples eyes than we thought. Yeah, seems like theres not even any attempt now to lower the debt ... every now and again they raise the 'debt ceiling' to ever increasing levels of stupidity and then don't think about it again for a few years. The reason nothing has happened as a result of this is that they haven't yet defaulted on the paying for the debt. When that happens hold on, its going to get rough. Chinese Yuan might be a good investment. I'm not even sure if the Yuan is worth the paper its printed on. The Chinese economy isn't actually a functional economy in the sense we're used to understanding in the west. Its build on, and exists because of, public sentiment and belief. I'm extremely wary of what might be in the Chinese future ... the relatively recent collapse of the big housing developer giants, and I mean GIANTS, has shaken the population. You don't get to see or hear much about that when you're half a world away, but I've got family in the PRC and its ugly, believe me. We know that the elites want a one world currency, and the only way to get that to happen is to collapse the independent currency's that exist now and then introduce a guaranteed income, based on blockchain. This would allow traceability and control over everything and everyone. You don't take the latest kill shot, no more income for you until you conform. Ditto for ownership of private property, one world Govt and they own it all. Think you will be safe at your BOL with shipping containers full of bullets, beans and booze ? How will the general population react ? Most probably wont notice until its too late to do anything, like the frog being slowly boiled, doesn't realize until its too late that its doomed. Its a slow motion train wreck and under way now, very subtly, but for those awake, noticeable. Its so sad, but as a country we're now well on the way ... the "long march". If you travel a bit you notice that insofar as cashless society goes, we're probably a leader ... we're probably also 'leading' in the thought process that gets you there. Right through central and SE asia as well as the USA (mega cities aside ... perhaps) cash is still king and there isn't even a hint of a thought of change on that front. Even in Europe, minus the woke economies, cash going away doesn't seem to be a thing. This comment meaning ... well ... if we can't right the ship and if we fall foul of what seems increasingly likely to be quite an authoritarian future ... emigration is always a thing. Right now we're only one particularly bad leader away from being Canada ... and my oh my, look how that once great country has fallen ... and why. Lets hope we can turn the ship around, but I have real fears. Not to be too black pilled about it all, but I'm still young enough to remember my childhood in Australia and old enough now to not recognise the country any more.
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Post by texasjim on Dec 14, 2023 6:43:32 GMT 10
This is at my local post office.
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Post by Stealth on Dec 14, 2023 8:52:50 GMT 10
This is at my local post office.
Wow... I assume that came into play during covid and they just found it convenient so retained the sign so that less people use cash? I can see how it would be easier. Less trips to the bank with cash in hand (unsafe), less having cash on site in general (unsafe). I can see why businesses would continue it but from a post office? Here in Aus, there's a lot of people forced to conduct banking through their local post office due to branch closures. Imagine if a post office held that rule now! Well, there probably IS a few that do it and I just haven't seen them. Mind you, this is a good reminder to get more cash out. That, and a friend of mine is currently travelling with their family. They're in the boonies and apparently their bank's service went down. They went to make a purchase at a servo and nek minit, failed transaction because the bank shut everything down. Fortunately they had a spare card from another bank with them (I'd have carried cash personally but that's just me) and were still able to make the purchase but for the bank to just axe it services like that? Apparently they sent out a text message to inform customers but of course out in the middle of nowhere they didn't have cell service so they didn't get the text. My cash reserves have run low recently because of the time of year but time to boost that up again I reckon! I also want to find a way to stash it in my car that's well hidden but easily accessible.
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Post by frostbite on Dec 14, 2023 9:56:24 GMT 10
I keep about $140 cash in each car, hidden inside a cd cover (yes I’m old school and nobody steals cds) in one car and inside a pack of tissues in the other.
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Post by norseman on Dec 14, 2023 11:27:36 GMT 10
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Post by spatial on Dec 14, 2023 11:39:16 GMT 10
This is at my local post office.
Wow... I assume that came into play during covid and they just found it convenient so retained the sign so that less people use cash? I can see how it would be easier. Less trips to the bank with cash in hand (unsafe), less having cash on site in general (unsafe). I can see why businesses would continue it but from a post office? Here in Aus, there's a lot of people forced to conduct banking through their local post office due to branch closures. Imagine if a post office held that rule now! Well, there probably IS a few that do it and I just haven't seen them. Mind you, this is a good reminder to get more cash out. That, and a friend of mine is currently travelling with their family. They're in the boonies and apparently their bank's service went down. They went to make a purchase at a servo and nek minit, failed transaction because the bank shut everything down. Fortunately they had a spare card from another bank with them (I'd have carried cash personally but that's just me) and were still able to make the purchase but for the bank to just axe it services like that? Apparently they sent out a text message to inform customers but of course out in the middle of nowhere they didn't have cell service so they didn't get the text. My cash reserves have run low recently because of the time of year but time to boost that up again I reckon! I also want to find a way to stash it in my car that's well hidden but easily accessible. It is a bit more than that, From memory the PO have indicted months ago that they are going cashless. This week the financial reports indicate they ran at a $200 million loss last year. Anything to save money will be on the cards/cash. Australia Post confirms it will not go cashless after community expresses ‘frustration’7news.com.au/business/australia-post/australia-post-confirms-it-will-not-go-cashless-after-community-expresses-frustration-c-11197079 Australia Post ‘horror movie’ headed for multibillion-dollar bailoutwww.afr.com/companies/retail/australia-post-delivers-200m-loss-sinks-into-red-20230831-p5e0vxAustralia Post will soon require a multibillion-dollar bailout by taxpayers and be forced to make significant job cuts unless the federal government takes urgent action to drastically cut services, the chief executive warns. The federal government indicated on Thursday it is on board to change the laws to ease the requirement for daily letter delivery and avoid a major bailout with the mail expected to be naturally phased out over the next 10 years. Australia Post CEO Paul Graham: “We’ve seen this movie play out in other geographies.” Eamon Gallagher The national mail carrier delivered a $200 million loss on Thursday, only its second loss in more than 30 years, and its first major structural loss. These are forecast to snowball as Australians stop sending letters.
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Post by frostbite on Dec 14, 2023 11:57:26 GMT 10
That whole Auspost making a big loss is a scam. Creative accounting designed to pressure the grubbyment into permitting Post to ditch the non profitable areas of it’s business and expand the profitable. Ie: ditch letters and expand parcel delivery.
Post ran a loss because they spent many hundreds of millions on new aircraft and new parcel sorting centres. A smart businessman never makes a profit. That just encourages the human filth politifilth to tax your earnings.
They treat their staff like shyte. Poor pay ($32ph), poor conditions (6hr-7hr delivery in 43d heat), our last annual bonus was a $5 coffee voucher ( I’m not joking), total electronic surveillance every minute of your day, senior managers who have the intelligence of dog poo. And in our peak period, the 3 weeks leading into Christmas, they load us up with junk mail to extend our outdoor time in a heatwave.
I hope they retrench staff, my arm will go up so fast I’ll tear a delt.
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Post by norseman on Dec 14, 2023 12:28:56 GMT 10
That whole Auspost making a big loss is a scam. Creative accounting designed to pressure the grubbyment into permitting Post to ditch the non profitable areas of it’s business and expand the profitable. Ie: ditch letters and expand parcel delivery. Post ran a loss because they spent many hundreds of millions on new aircraft and new parcel sorting centres. A smart businessman never makes a profit. That just encourages the human filth politifilth to tax your earnings. They treat their staff like shyte. Poor pay ($32ph), poor conditions (6hr-7hr delivery in 43d heat), our last annual bonus was a $5 coffee voucher ( I’m not joking), total electronic surveillance every minute of your day, senior managers who have the intelligence of dog poo. And in our peak period, the 3 weeks leading into Christmas, they load us up with junk mail to extend our outdoor time in a heatwave. I hope they retrench staff, my arm will go up so fast I’ll tear a delt. Why is it a requirement that an Auspost Licensee Holder weigh 285kgs, have seven chins and bark at us when we simply ask for a Passport Form??
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