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Post by frostbite on Dec 22, 2023 5:06:13 GMT 10
I wonder if the Grubbyment’s definition of ‘voluntary’ is the same definition they applied to ‘voluntary Covid vaccine’?
As in the Digital ID is completely voluntary but you need one to work, travel, enter most businesses etc.
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Post by norseman on Dec 22, 2023 5:46:22 GMT 10
I wonder if the Grubbyment’s definition of ‘voluntary’ is the same definition they applied to ‘voluntary Covid vaccine’? As in the Digital ID is completely voluntary but you need one to work, travel, enter most businesses etc. It's coming and everyone can see it! The Gooberment is there to "Govern" they are not your friend and they fundamentally don't give a shit about our welfare or quality of life! The West is finished! All these measures are being activated so they can buy more time for themselves! |
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Post by malewithatail on Dec 22, 2023 7:47:13 GMT 10
Society can be compared to a electronic control system. The closer it gets to failure, the more unstable it becomes.
The question is, how unstable does it need to get before it falls over ? I suspect a lot more.
People with full belly's don't fight, but when the food supply starts to be affected, then look out for trouble. With the large scale farming that's practiced now, a crop failure could be disastrous, with potentially millions of tons of food being destroyed. I know we have different areas growing the same crops at slightly different times, but being involved in such large scale farming has highlighted the possibility of famine to me.
And if that happens, these digital ID laws will be introduced immediately to 'control' the population and make sure everyone gets 'what they need'.
Time for some more seeds storage, and attach the cultivator to the tractor and check its adjusted properly to suit.
One example of high vaultage is the San Andreas Vault.
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Post by norseman on Dec 22, 2023 8:15:23 GMT 10
Society can be compared to a electronic control system. The closer it gets to failure, the more unstable it becomes. The question is, how unstable does it need to get before it falls over ? I suspect a lot more. People with full belly's don't fight, but when the food supply starts to be affected, then look out for trouble. With the large scale farming that's practiced now, a crop failure could be disastrous, with potentially millions of tons of food being destroyed. I know we have different areas growing the same crops at slightly different times, but being involved in such large scale farming has highlighted the possibility of famine to me. And if that happens, these digital ID laws will be introduced immediately to 'control' the population and make sure everyone gets 'what they need'. Time for some more seeds storage, and attach the cultivator to the tractor and check its adjusted properly to suit. One example of high vaultage is the San Andreas Vault. Australians are too lazy and apathetic to fight, by Global standards we own a very special brand of stupidity in this country and everyone from the Government to the Public Serpents and the Police know it! Covid more than proved it! |
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Post by SA Hunter on Dec 22, 2023 9:43:53 GMT 10
I wonder if the Grubbyment’s definition of ‘voluntary’ is the same definition they applied to ‘voluntary Covid vaccine’? As in the Digital ID is completely voluntary but you need one to work, travel, enter most businesses etc. Yes, the voluntary wording is interesting - haha - but your assessment will be spot on. No card, no nothing. |
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Post by bug on Dec 22, 2023 12:38:50 GMT 10
Orwell was so right in so many ways. When authoritarian governments want to exert more control, they redefine words.
"Voluntary" now means "You are free to do exactly what we say or there will be consequences for you. But you are choosing the consequences, so it's voluntary."
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Post by Beno on Dec 22, 2023 14:56:40 GMT 10
Orwell was so right in so many ways. When authoritarian governments want to exert more control, they redefine words. "Voluntary" now means "You are free to do exactly what we say or there will be consequences for you. But you are choosing the consequences, so it's voluntary." Very true. The “voluntary” meaning and implementation seems to be based off the military concept of volunteering, as in “if you don’t assault that pillbox private you’ll be shot”. Or “stand here with dark goggles in while we blow up a nuke to see what happens” |
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Post by norseman on Dec 22, 2023 15:11:38 GMT 10
Orwell was so right in so many ways. When authoritarian governments want to exert more control, they redefine words. "Voluntary" now means "You are free to do exactly what we say or there will be consequences for you. But you are choosing the consequences, so it's voluntary." Very true. The “voluntary” meaning and implementation seems to be based off the military concept of volunteering, as in “if you don’t assault that pillbox private you’ll be shot”. Or “stand here with dark goggles in while we blow up a nuke to see what happens” You're so right Beno! The real evil is that this version of "volunteerism" is forced upon every citizen literally every single day of the week in a hundred different ways and unfortunately 99% of the population can't see it! |
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Post by Stealth on Dec 23, 2023 10:12:37 GMT 10
I disagree. When you join the military, for the most part, no one's twisting your arm. You join because in spite of the risk of potentially ending poorly you want to help and make a difference and the chances of taking a round to the back of the head are relatively low. Obviously there's a small amount for whom joining isn't a choice because of family or personal pressures or whatever, but that's not the norm. When you join society (ie. You're BORN) you have literally no say in what happens. You don't choose to be born. You don't elect to be a part of the masses. It happens to you rather than because you willed it.
I think it's way worse than signing up. We don't get to choose whether or not we start life in a society that's collapsing.
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Post by frostbite on Dec 23, 2023 10:22:01 GMT 10
My understanding is serving personnel are asked if they are available for overseas deployment. Most put their hand up so fast they tear a shoulder muscle.
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Post by bug on Dec 24, 2023 16:05:59 GMT 10
I disagree. When you join the military, for the most part, no one's twisting your arm. You join because in spite of the risk of potentially ending poorly you want to help and make a difference and the chances of taking a round to the back of the head are relatively low. Obviously there's a small amount for whom joining isn't a choice because of family or personal pressures or whatever, but that's not the norm. When you join society (ie. You're BORN) you have literally no say in what happens. You don't choose to be born. You don't elect to be a part of the masses. It happens to you rather than because you willed it. I think it's way worse than signing up. We don't get to choose whether or not we start life in a society that's collapsing. Yup. If you join the military, you know what you are getting yourself into. Asking for volunteers there is being polite at best, but most often just slang for something you are telling, not asking people to do. For the average citizen it is very different. If there are any negative consequences that are not happily agreed to, then it is not voluntary. |
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