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Post by Stealth on Oct 29, 2024 19:52:51 GMT 10
*Hefty sigh* I sure hope not, but I'm absolutely not optimistic at all. Americans seem to want to fight each other at the moment no matter what. I could never see attacking a neighbour or community member just because they vote differently to me.
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Post by SA Hunter on Oct 29, 2024 23:18:22 GMT 10
I picked "It's rigged"
I think the elite will ensure Harris wins.
They are too scared to lose, and will do whatever they can to stay in power.
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Post by Joey on Oct 30, 2024 7:34:16 GMT 10
The democrats are already planning mass riots and violence if Trump wins. Americans should prepare for “unrest’ if former President Donald Trump completes the greatest political comeback in modern American politics, Democrats told the Wall Street Journal on Monday. The potential for Democrats to perpetrate political violence undermines their narrative that Republicans, and especially the America First movement, are a threat to democracy. “I think there’ll be some violence. I think there’ll be workplace fights. There’ll be fights at kids’ birthday parties. I think they’ll be protests and will turn violent,” Mark Halperin recently told Tucker Carlson. Resistance groups, according to the Journal’s Joshua Chaffin and Valerie Bauerlein, believe citizens should be “bracing for unrest” if Trump w www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2024/10/28/brace-unrest-if-donald-trump-wins-democrats-warn/ |
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Post by malewithatail on Oct 30, 2024 10:16:09 GMT 10
Anyone following this site from America, be at your BOL with at least 6 months supplies by election day.
You've had plenty of warning......
The last man on earth is not alone.
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Post by spatial on Oct 31, 2024 12:10:35 GMT 10
Ballot boxes being torched, passwords for voting machines being dumped on internet. Armed security forces, mounted police, dogs to sniff ballet boxes for hazardous chemicals. 5 Days to election and things heating up, so there can be a big blame game on who wone the election, and justification for violence!!!! Devices used in ballot box arsons had 'Free Gaza' markings, sources sayabcnews.go.com/US/ballot-box-set-fire-west-coast-portland-oregon/story?id=115221030Investigation continues into how Colorado voting machine passwords ended up onlinewww.cpr.org/2024/10/30/investigation-how-colorado-voting-machine-passwords-posted-online/"The news that the Colorado Secretary of State’s office inadvertently included BIOS passwords for the state’s voting machines in a hidden tab on a spreadsheet on the department’s website has election officials scrambling days ahead of the election. In an interview with CPR News, Secretary of State Jena Griswold said the employee responsible for the passwords ending up online no longer works for the state and a personnel investigation is ongoing". Printing error affects Nevada County vote-by-mail ballotswww.cbsnews.com/sacramento/news/printer-error-affecting-nevada-county-vote-by-mail-ballots/GRASS VALLEY — Nevada County is having trouble with their mail-in ballots due to a printing error. With Election Day nearing, county officials are working around the clock to fix the problem. Nevada County's elections office first realized something was wrong on Monday. The next day, they diagnosed the problem, and the error was specific to vote-by-mail ballots. They're not sure exactly how many of the 77,000 ballots issued were affected, but they have a plan to rescan the ones that are. |
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Post by frostbite on Oct 31, 2024 13:04:58 GMT 10
America, the leader of the Third World.
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Post by Tim Horton on Nov 1, 2024 13:26:28 GMT 10
I think there has only been one president to serve 2 terms that were not consecutive..
Grover Cleveland (mid, late 1890s ??)
Also at least one candidate that won the popular vote, but lost the office to the Electoral College.. If ..Scary Harris does win it will likely be some kind of ..fix.. like that..
Right now with the bombardment of presidential, state, local adds.. I'm going to be VERY glad when it is over..
I locked the cemetery gate when I left after my visit there..
The Democrats accused me of voter interference..
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Post by Stealth on Nov 2, 2024 14:54:21 GMT 10
I've never really understood the American voting system. It seems to boil down to 'you vote for someone who votes for someone else'. That's... That's not me voting. That's me handing my vote to someone else and hoping they'll vote the way that I would.
I'm sure it's not that simple but it sure feels that way sometimes.
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Post by frostbite on Nov 2, 2024 15:15:15 GMT 10
I've never really understood the American voting system. It seems to boil down to 'you vote for someone who votes for someone else'. That's... That's not me voting. That's me handing my vote to someone else and hoping they'll vote the way that I would. I'm sure it's not that simple but it sure feels that way sometimes. I think it’s a similar system here for the Senate. If the person you vote for doesn’t win a seat they can pass their votes onto another candidate. |
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Post by Stealth on Nov 2, 2024 15:59:39 GMT 10
That's a good point, although from memory our ranking system means that at least if your first choice isn't given a seat, the next choice gets your vote. I know a lot of people don't take up the option of using the ranking system because it takes a bit of work, but I always take the time to. IMO it's not hard to do, because you just look at the people on offer and say 'right, if my first choice doesn't get it, who's the best to worst options'. But you do obviously have to research everyone and their individual policies and I get that a lot of people don't have either the time or the energy for that.
I figure we only do it once every four years, it's worth putting the time and effort in.
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Post by bug on Nov 3, 2024 8:31:06 GMT 10
I've never really understood the American voting system. It seems to boil down to 'you vote for someone who votes for someone else'. That's... That's not me voting. That's me handing my vote to someone else and hoping they'll vote the way that I would. I'm sure it's not that simple but it sure feels that way sometimes. In that respect it's not much different to here. We vote for a local politician, not the prime minister. In practically every other respect the Australian system is better. |
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Post by bug on Nov 3, 2024 8:33:56 GMT 10
That's a good point, although from memory our ranking system means that at least if your first choice isn't given a seat, the next choice gets your vote. I know a lot of people don't take up the option of using the ranking system because it takes a bit of work, but I always take the time to. IMO it's not hard to do, because you just look at the people on offer and say 'right, if my first choice doesn't get it, who's the best to worst options'. But you do obviously have to research everyone and their individual policies and I get that a lot of people don't have either the time or the energy for that. I figure we only do it once every four years, it's worth putting the time and effort in. Same. There's pretty much always a minor party who will represent you better than the liblab uniparty. Since you end up forced to preference one of them anyway, there's no real reason to give them your first vote. |
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Post by australia on Nov 3, 2024 16:27:31 GMT 10
The democratic fix is in , will there be a Red Wave ?
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Post by bug on Nov 4, 2024 9:33:06 GMT 10
Have seen interviews with the Amish. Traditionally they take no interest in politics and don't vote. But they are registering in large numbers in Pennsylvania (where most of them live) and every single one of them is for Trump. The two main reasons they give are:
1) Over-regulation of small business. A problem throughout the western world.
2) Abortion. Harris made this a focus of her campaign despite it being a state issue, not a federal one. It looks to be backfiring. Amazing that promoting the killing of babies might not sit well with people.
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Post by spatial on Nov 4, 2024 12:00:03 GMT 10
Have seen interviews with the Amish. Traditionally they take no interest in politics and don't vote. But they are registering in large numbers in Pennsylvania (where most of them live) and every single one of them is for Trump. The two main reasons they give are: 1) Over-regulation of small business. A problem throughout the western world. 2) Abortion. Harris made this a focus of her campaign despite it being a state issue, not a federal one. It looks to be backfiring. Amazing that promoting the killing of babies might not sit well with people. Even the Muslim voters despite the Gaza M.East dramas have come out in support for Trump, as don't want deranged woke doctrine in the schools and normalisation of biological men in sport and women change houses. Harris is an unelectable air-head with negative intelligence, the more she speaks the more nonsense comes out. Under Trump the people were rich and getting ahead, under Biden/Harris, mass layoffs job losses, high cost of living etc.. Desperation in the Harris campaign is very obvious. In Australia. The same with the last QLD state election, incumbent Governments is always punished if economic conditions start biting. The media make out climate change and social justice issues are what people are voting on - Greens that are the main prompters of theses policies have declining support. |
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Post by bug on Nov 4, 2024 12:13:11 GMT 10
The Greens will never get serious support due to the fact that they are not an environmentalist party, they are a socialist/marxist party representing only the far left. They only ever talk about woke issues, largely ignoring the environment. They average at around 10% and never get above that. The only way they've been able to get into parliament by concentrating in inner city areas and completely ignoring everywhere else.
Harris is quite obviously a figurehead that can be easily manipulated, who has been put forward to try and get the POC vote as they replace those of european ancestry. It's not working though. Traditionally, black men vote 90/10 Dems, but this is now 70/30 Dems. That alone is almost enough to swing an election. Most Dems don't like her either, as demonstrated by her quick exit at the last Dem primary. It's not surprising she was parachuted in as opposed to running a proper primary, as she would lose again. The real Dem nominee is Sanders, but he's a bit like Trump and cannot be controlled by his handlers.
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Post by malewithatail on Nov 4, 2024 12:51:43 GMT 10
Just saw a news item from USA that shops are boarding their fronts up, All leave for national guard, police and army has been cancelled, army reservists are being called up, and ammo is in very short supply.
Tp shelves are empty, ditto bottled water and instant meals.
Being 20,000 km away is going to help here.
We’re on a slippery slope; prepare for it to get worse before it gets better.
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Post by spinifex on Nov 4, 2024 14:22:27 GMT 10
I've never really understood the American voting system. It seems to boil down to 'you vote for someone who votes for someone else'. That's... That's not me voting. That's me handing my vote to someone else and hoping they'll vote the way that I would. I'm sure it's not that simple but it sure feels that way sometimes. In that respect it's not much different to here. We vote for a local politician, not the prime minister. In practically every other respect the Australian system is better. The Australian system is better how?
ALL democracies are a con. Voters don't get to choose candidates and we don't get to choose policies. If we did get to do those things in a meaningful way, our elected politicians would be quite different as would the policies we are subjected to.
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Post by bug on Nov 4, 2024 15:44:48 GMT 10
In that respect it's not much different to here. We vote for a local politician, not the prime minister. In practically every other respect the Australian system is better. The Australian system is better how?
ALL democracies are a con. Voters don't get to choose candidates and we don't get to choose policies. If we did get to do those things in a meaningful way, our elected politicians would be quite different as would the policies we are subjected to.
Preferential voting. First past the post in the lower house. Proportional in the upper house. Minor parties get a say here in a way that they do not in the US/UK. You don't have to choose one of the duopoly as your first vote and someone who actually represents you can get a place of power. Eg: Reform UK got absolutely screwed by the first past the post system, but in a proportional or preferential system they'd have ended up with the balance of power. |
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Post by australia on Nov 4, 2024 18:12:09 GMT 10
Do we actually trust the government to count the votes correctly?
Look at other countries/ nations , long history of vote rigging in one way or another ,
Would it be nieve thinking it doesn't happen here ? No one talks about the subject
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