Weather Channel Founder tells the truth on climate change

Overpopulation is a myth! We are not growing exponentially. Many countries are already under the birth replacement rate. If they keep going at that rate the populations will eventually die out.

Hey Fractus, Personally I do not believe anything that bloke says. Did you watch him on the session of Q&A? Went on about the climate, but when asked about the temperature measurements but three acronym organisations (cannot remember the names of the measuring organisations, but they are who the world goes to), he did not even know what they were. total flake and a fraud.

My 40'c in early November begs to differ when here that's usually December temps. So do the walruses who are having a real difficulty finding sea ice when most years prior to now they've had plenty.

Through the millenia the climate has always fluctuated. By chopping down a significant proportion of the world's trees and using fossil fuels extensively has just compounded the issue. (Fossil fuels =carbon released into the atmosphere, which is exactly what trees are a wonderful absorber of, that used to give us a buffer zone, less trees=less cushion against the impact we are having) Everything ebbs and flows, we have just made it happen a lot faster. There is actual evidence of a similar event of catastrophic proportion before dinosaurs. To many bacteria producing too much of one gas, not enough trees. Almost everything died, trees spent the next million or so years restoring things to a life suitable condition before life left the waters.

The climate is changing, do doubt about that, and studies and data show that it is a natural cycle. The steady weather pattern we have now is not normal for earth, all the studies based on samples from around the world show that earths most common weather pattern is an unstable one. So seasons (our current weather pattern) is not normal for earth.

This data has been around for years long before the "Climate change" and "Global Warming" money grab.

What we are doing to the planet is not good though, we are raping the planet, biting the hand that feeds us and that needs to stop. Easter Island is a good example of what we are going to do with the planet. A once heavily resource rich island is now valley without trees, we are doing the same everywhere else in the world.

So the data, majority of scientists (the ones not funded by the government) all confirm what they have been saying for years based on real data that our current weather pattern is not normal.

Melting Ice, yep going to happen and has done so for long before we where here. Increased carbon levels, again, normal pattern. We have next to no impact on the carbon increase and that has been proven however by us making rivers, dams, chopping down trees and terraforming we are only going to make what we have left worse.

We build large dams, then in area that was once a river we build houses, then cry because our houses where flooded during a storm or dam release. 
We build homes in Cylcone alley and cry when a cyclone rips the house apart, then rebuild in the same spot. 
We build houses to code, then cry when a storm or other disaster pulls it down.

I spot of reality is needed, natural river, cyclone alley = Don't build there

Standard building codes = Why, make it stronger than the code so it will last


Climate change is a very touchy topic for a lot of people and there will be a lot of people that will hate what I am saying here however I am not saying anything based on things I found on the internet. I am not "Researching" news articles to gather facts. I am only saying what my research from analyzing   data myself, speaking with scientists and looking at their research. 

We all know the government covers things up, we know they have their best interest in mind and we have all seen that on many occasions. That is why a lot of people are here, they want to prep because they have little faith in the government. Yet a lot of people knowing all this still believe what they are being told by the very people they don't trust.

A politician has no idea what is going on as they are not scientists however they have setup a very good funding campaign to fund scientists to produce theories to help their campaigns. These are all just theories based on what data they have, you need to remember that.

Arguing climate change is the same as arguing string theory. We need more data to work out what is going on, we need a heap more research. As for the debate scale. The scientists that are against the governments climate change scam are not against climate change, they are against corruption and misinformation.

They all agree climate change is happening, however Government say pay us to stop the world from changing based on very little data and a hell of a lot of funding. And the scientific community say the climate is changing, natural cycle however yes, we are screwing the planet and need to stop but we are not the cause of the changes in climate.

I can understand why people are getting upset with each other over this but in reality there is no reason to. We just have to prep for what is coming our way. We are all here as preppers for different reasons. It doesn't matter what the event is, it doesn't matter how it is caused and who is to blame it just matters we are preparing for the worst and working together, sharing knowledge and leaving the political crap for the minority group called the government.

Prep, learn, share, leave the science to the scientists and the prepping to the preppers.

 

So just posted my last comment and saw page 3. Over population. Come on, I have posted heaps of stuff about this. Stop getting your "facts" from youtube. Get the data, add it up yourself. Had someone recommend I watch a video that explains the population issue. I watch it and it was a math 101 video. Not sure if they guy was trying to insult me or he actually thought a basic math lesson where he didn't include the most important variable in population growth models.

Have a guess what one of the most important variables are that a lot of people don't think to add? Death rate.

People really I have had a lot of "Google researches" tell me I am wrong. Sorry but I am going to walk on a fine line here and a lot of people will probably hate me after saying it.

Stop trying to be a researcher - Your not. The person sending me to a maths 101, are you for real. I build predictive models, I have data scientists asking me for advice on how to build their models. statistician are asking me for help. And this dick asks me to watch a maths 101 video because he believes it explains population issues and solves all problems.

Sorry but get over yourself. The maths is there and it isn't that simple to say 1+1 = holly shit we are over populated and the planet can't handle it. In population models 1+1 can equal -10, it can equal 0. 1+1 never equals 2 when it comes to population models. It can equal anything else but lets make this clear 1+1 NEVER = 2 in population models.

Why because 1+1= 2 in the present it never =2 in the future. Because 1+1 may = 3 if they breed. It may equal 0 if they don't. What if one of those people get sick, 1 person can kill 10 with infection. So 1+1= -10.

Climate change, over population is not something everyone can debate unless they know what is behind it. There was one absolute tool on another forum that said he would be happy to sacrifice his family if the government said they had to die to help reduce over population. So WTF are you doing on a prepper forum mate if your plan is to die because the government said to. He is not a prepper, a side from being an complete idiot he is a drone. Not a prepper, how does he tell his friends?

Friend: So what are you prepping for?
Idiot: Over population
Friend: how do you plan for that?
Idiot: have kids then tell them they have to die because the never lying all knowing government said so!
Friend: ok cool, let me know how that works out for you

Yeah, again. Hate me, call me whatever you like but don't ask me to watch a 101 maths video because you are a google researcher and know more than the actual people researching it. If you do know more than I am happy to have a chat but as soon as you tell me 1+1=2 I will tell you to leave because it never does in this area of maths.

Like I said before, prep - share - learn. No need for all this political crap and arguments about things we know very little about. We will be safe and comfortable when SHTF and the ones causing all the issues will be realizing just how wrong they were.

Keep it civil everyone

We are all here to openly discuss our opinions, we will not always all agree but that is half the point, the sharing of information and facts, opinions and ideologies. I think Remmy hit the nail on the head about discussion leads to learning.

Good bit of information about death rates and mortality Brad, we all seem to be living longer.

I like your style krull68,







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I have been working pretty hard on R&D in the area looking for alternative energy solutions however that isn't an easy task. The wood chip gasifier is an old system that I believe could be used more until there is a better power solution.

As for self sufficiency by the above comment of yours, bloody good solution and it would be very interesting to see it in progress and learn more about it.

Sorry Brad, but your first post sounded like "Don't talk about things you know nothing about!" I was thinking "How do we learn if we don't discuss these things?" I agree fully that we shouldn't believe everything we are told and I also feel that even data can be made to fit a theory or viewpoint.