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Post by brad on Nov 4, 2014 12:14:21 GMT 10
Do yourself a favor and watch this video "interview" with the weather channels founder, I say "Interview" has he took over and got up CNN. Also stated he has over 31,000 scientists back what John Coleman says. Climate change is nothing more than government corruption. Scientists say it, the data says it however the government say we should be paying carbon tax and giving them more money for something they made up and fund to continue getting more money out of the public. www.westernjournalism.com/weather-channel-founder-insists-climate-change-is-not-happening/The Weather Channel’s founder, John Coleman, appeared on Sunday’s Reliable Sources on CNN, where he came out swinging against host Brian Stelter with his stance that “climate change is not happening.” Stelter was barely able to offer a greeting to his guest when Coleman immediately launched into his rant against CNN as a promoter of climate change. I resent you calling me a denier, that is a word meant to put me down. I’m a skeptic about climate change. And I want to make it darn clear Mr. Kenny is not a scientist, I am. He is the CEO of The Weather Channel now, I was the founder of The Weather Channel, not the co-founder. Stelter attempted to let Coleman know that he is a fan of TWC, but Coleman demanded that he be allowed to continue: Read more at www.westernjournalism.com/weather-channel-founder-insists-climate-change-is-not-happening/#OrogOl53CrLZuGQJ.99
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Post by remnantprep on Nov 4, 2014 12:26:21 GMT 10
Yeah read an article in Quadrant magazine last night, about this! Recently they had the founder of Green Peace on the Bolt report saying that it is all hype. Years ago hubby and I knew a botanist who has published books and has a plant named after him and back then he was saying that it wasn't happening. He said that in his years of being a botanist he had found that the plant life was getting thicker and more lush due to CO2!!
Basically they want to tax the air we breathe!!!
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Post by Peter on Nov 4, 2014 12:49:55 GMT 10
I realised the extent of the climate change hoax over the last 3 or 4 years when I studied up on UN Agenda 21. The problem is that people are being brainwashed and having rights taken away slowly - like the proverbial frog in a pot, they don't realise what's happening.
This is one not to get me started on...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2014 12:17:55 GMT 10
The anticyclones off of antartica have been observed to be changing in a well known long term trend that has been delivering less rain to the south of Western Australia.
These anticlones simply don't reach into the country like they used to!!
All the IPCC reports are conservative by nature as all participating governments have to agree what goes in them.
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Post by Peter on Nov 9, 2014 12:37:45 GMT 10
The anticyclones off of antartica have been observed to be changing in a well known long term trend that has been delivering less rain to the south of Western Australia. These anticlones simply don't reach into the country like they used to!! All the IPCC reports are conservative by nature as all participating governments have to agree what goes in them. Yes, the climate does change. It always has, it always will. Otherwise climate data would not deviate one iota from the statistical averages. Some of the main problems (but by no means all of them) I have with the whole issue regarding what is currently termed "climate change" are: - there is no evidence to suggest there is an actual problem - plants are growing better, crops are growing better, etc. The planet is looking after itself, just as it was designed to. - the 1970's "global cooling" movement gave way to the recent "global warming" movement, and an 18 year stop in global warming has now led to the name "climate change" being used, - those who bellow about it the most repeatedly demonstrate that their views are intrinsically linked to their support of a one world government - the "cure" is always along the lines of increasing taxes and government power - statistics used by these people are dubious at best (eg "97% of scientists agree"...) - you know, just like "everyone" used to know that the Sun orbited Earth, the Earth was flat, organisms reproduced by spontaneous generation, space flight wasn't possible, etc, etc, etc. - supporters often claim that "the science is settled" - in other words, they don't want to reason or debate the science on its merits. - they claim that the human population is to blame for everything and therefore must be reduced (yet none of these people volunteer themselves).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2014 14:47:49 GMT 10
ok mate- ever heard of rates change? Just because things always change doesn't mean a particular change in circumstance is 'natural'. If you acknowledge things change then why don't you care about why they change? Are you trying to force people into accepting your attitude of not giving a toss about anything? Is there anything you care about or is it just public relations for the global investor? Don't be afraid to open up on anything you care about btw...
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Post by You Must Enter A Name on Nov 9, 2014 15:47:01 GMT 10
ok mate- ever heard of rates change? Just because things always change doesn't mean a particular change in circumstance is 'natural'. If you acknowledge things change then why don't you care about why they change? Are you trying to force people into accepting your attitude of not giving a toss about anything? Is there anything you care about or is it just public relations for the global investor? Don't be afraid to open up on anything you care about btw... Keep it civil please, sheesh.
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Post by Peter on Nov 9, 2014 16:16:37 GMT 10
Clownface, we have now established that you and I disagree on this issue. It happens sometimes.
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Post by Frank on Nov 9, 2014 16:58:28 GMT 10
Climate change is one of those subjects, similar to religion, politics or weather toilet paper should be put on the roll on the wall side or on the outside. Everyone has an opinion, but there is no one definitive answer on the matter. The science of man made global warming/climate change swings both ways, from "yes we cause and can stop it" to "we have no impact".
What is known is that the climate is constantly changing, the earth is a constantly evolving and changing system. We wouldn't have had ice ages, massive warming periods, extinction events or any type of evolution if it wasn't.
My 2c worth, purely opinion, is that the climate is changing (as it has and forever will), we need to prepare and adapt to those changes as man has done for thousands of years. "Climate change" has been hijacked into a politcal issue and money making exercise which will not really help anyone.
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Post by AKM. on Nov 9, 2014 17:35:06 GMT 10
Agree Frank, Although I do reckon that we humans do have local effects on climate, which can have further effects that we do not yet understand.
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Post by You Must Enter A Name on Nov 9, 2014 18:18:02 GMT 10
Climate change is one of those subjects, similar to religion, politics or weather toilet paper should be put on the roll on the wall side or on the outside. Everyone has an opinion, but there is no one definitive answer on the matter. The science of man made global warming/climate change swings both ways, from "yes we cause and can stop it" to "we have no impact". What is known is that the climate is constantly changing, the earth is a constantly evolving and changing system. We wouldn't have had ice ages, massive warming periods, extinction events or any type of evolution if it wasn't. My 2c worth, purely opinion, is that the climate is changing (as it has and forever will), we need to prepare and adapt to those changes as man has done for thousands of years. "Climate change" has been hijacked into a politcal issue and money making exercise which will not really help anyone. Toilet paper should never be wall side, ARE YOU CRAZY!!!!!!!!
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Post by Peter on Nov 9, 2014 18:46:19 GMT 10
... Everyone has an opinion, but there is no one definitive answer on the matter... Let me share what is (possibly) my favourite quote from Tim Minchin: "A famous bon mot asserts that opinions are like arse-holes, in that everyone has one. There is great wisdom in this… but I would add that opinions differ significantly from arse-holes, in that yours should be constantly and thoroughly examined."
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Post by remnantprep on Nov 9, 2014 18:48:13 GMT 10
Actually WALL SIDE, helps to slow down the rate at which toilet paper unravels from the holder!!!!!
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Post by Frank on Nov 9, 2014 19:00:25 GMT 10
Love Tim Minchin, he is a clever man haha
Wheres the research behind this Rem? HAHAHAHA Its a must read Same to you Dan! Research dammit, we need to see the science!! haha
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Post by remnantprep on Nov 9, 2014 19:16:58 GMT 10
Ok from Wikipedia! I have highlighted the points that are relevant to my argument! Arguments for over or under[edit] The main reasons given by people to explain why they hang their toilet paper a given way are ease of grabbing and habit.[23] Some particular advantages cited for each orientation include: Over reduces the risk of accidentally brushing the wall or cabinet with one's knuckles, potentially transferring grime and germs.[24] Over makes it easier to visually locate and to grasp the loose end.[25] Over gives hotels, cruise ships, office buildings, public places and homeowners with guest bathrooms the option to fold over the last sheet to show that the room has been cleaned.[26] Over is generally the intended direction of viewing for the manufacturer's branding, so patterned toilet paper looks better this way.[27] Under provides a tidier appearance, in that the loose end can be more hidden from view.[28][29] Under reduces the risk that a toddler or a house pet, such as a dog or cat, will completely unroll the toilet paper when batting at the roll.[30] Under in a recreational vehicle may reduce unrolling during driving.[31] Partisans have claimed that each method makes it easier to tear the toilet paper on a perforated sheet boundary, depending on the direction of pulling and the use of a second hand to stabilize the roll.[32] (A traveller from the U.S. to China in 1991 noted a different setup: non-perforated paper with a metal cutter above the roll, which obliges the over direction.)[33] It is unclear if one orientation is more economical than the other. The Centralian Advocate attributes a claim that over saves on paper usage to Planet Green.[34] A reader of The Orange County Register found a "six-month study" by a "university in the U.S." that came to the same conclusion.[35] But a reader of the Cape Argus wrote that a "British loo paper manufacturer" came to the opposite conclusion.[36] In his humor compilation How Hemlines Predict the Economy, Peter FitzSimons writes that placing the hanging flap against the wall "is generally twice as economical".[37]
In the academic field of evaluation, Michael Scriven writes that the question of the correct way to insert toilet paper is a "one-item aptitude test" for measuring one's evaluation skills. These skills include the evaluative attitude, practical logical analysis, empathy, teaching, and being a quick study. To prove one's competence, one may either derive the "one right answer" or prove that the test is or is not culturally biased.[38]
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Post by Frank on Nov 9, 2014 19:42:42 GMT 10
HAHA awesome, there isn't much that wikipedia doesn't know
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Post by Peter on Nov 9, 2014 20:52:34 GMT 10
That's what I love about ausprep.com - a thread starts off discussing TEOTWAWKI because of climate change/politics, and ends up discussing bog roll installation.
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Post by You Must Enter A Name on Nov 9, 2014 21:03:30 GMT 10
That's what I love about ausprep.com - a thread starts off discussing TEOTWAWKI because of climate change/politics, and ends up discussing bog roll installation. I like to think we are a family here, only with your own family does a discussion go from one extreme to the other to this extent. I can picture us all sitting around a huge table, cheese, crackers, wine and scotch all shouting and carrying on about these things. Anyway, toilet paper should face outwards, it looks better and for every toilet roll you hang wall side someone innocent in a faraway land dies, THINK OF THE INNOCENT!!! As for climate change itself, I have no opinion on the matter, good luck with that argument.
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Post by Frank on Nov 9, 2014 21:09:42 GMT 10
ausprep.com, tackling the tough issues and prepping one roll at a time haha
Oh and.....back to climate change
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Post by krull68 on Nov 9, 2014 21:35:53 GMT 10
My problem with the climate change issue is thus:
The only solution put forward by the left is, tax, reduce freedoms, wind and solar. That's about it from them.
None are prepared to look at anything that includes burning anything. CSRIO has done studies on algae production that can form both coal like substance and oil, using the algae, if the same amount of cubed footage was used as was used to drill and dig, we could theoretically use up all the co2 we put into the atmosphere plus about 5% of the natural co2. when I brought this up with a member of the green party, they got rather rude, abusive and called me anti science.
Sadly I cannot work with someone who becomes dictatorial without even accepting to look at any alternatives that do not fit with a certain political outlook.
Anyhow, if anyone can come up with practical scientific (practical engineering) solutions, without derogatory statements not based in fact, I am prepared to listen and look into it. If derogatory insults is all a person has, including disparaging someone's intelligence, then I am afraid I walk away questioning their sincerity.
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