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Post by malewithatail on Feb 20, 2024 12:00:28 GMT 10
We built my sisters house out of insulated refrigeration panels, just clip together, smooth inside and out, 150 mm thick, no painting and look good. No maintenance ever. Reasonably easy to install as they are quite light compared to their size.
The outside is a bit too bland for her, so she is thinking about attaching some galv iron sheeting to spruce it up a bit.
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Post by frostbite on Feb 20, 2024 15:10:20 GMT 10
We built my sisters house out of insulated refrigeration panels, just clip together, smooth inside and out, 150 mm thick, no painting and look good. No maintenance ever. Reasonably easy to install as they are quite light compared to their size. The outside is a bit too bland for her, so she is thinking about attaching some galv iron sheeting to spruce it up a bit. One tactical nuclear weapon can ruin your whole day. What supports the roof? |
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Post by frostbite on Feb 20, 2024 15:18:27 GMT 10
A few questions: Did you get the shed designed and built with windows already in place or retrofit them? Can you please put up a few pics of how those windows are fitted into walls/framing before the plasterboard is put on. How easy is it to use the steel framing system for lining out and putting in internal walls? (I've got plenty experience with timber but not steel and am wondering which way to go for doing my framing).
Mate forget plasterboard! Check this bloke out at 3.13 I wish I saw his YT Vids 30 years ago if they were around! Matter of fact check all his videos, there is some good stuff there re shed builds! That guy is doing pretty much the same as I have done, except he uses timber for his stud frame (will the termites eat it?) and 10mm mfd wall panelling (which I used in the lounge room of my main cabin). The problem with that panelling is cost ($100 per 1200 x 2400 sheet) and it doesn’t come in longer lengths, which means you will have joins every 2400 or 1200. |
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Post by frostbite on Feb 20, 2024 15:27:54 GMT 10
Spent 2 days at the retreat with a friend who is an electrician. Wiring in new cabin now finished and I’ve started lining the external walls with R4 insulation. All the plasterboard arrives in just over a weeks time.   I'm in early stages of a similar project on a slightly bigger scale. A few questions: Did you get the shed designed and built with windows already in place or retrofit them? Can you please put up a few pics of how those windows are fitted into walls/framing before the plasterboard is put on. How easy is it to use the steel framing system for lining out and putting in internal walls? (I've got plenty experience with timber but not steel and am wondering which way to go for doing my framing).
The windows came with the shed kit. Some shed manufacturers have limited size window selection. The windows are tec screwed or riveted to the outer corro wall of the shed. When I build the internal stud wall I make a window reveal out of DAR primed timber, to cover the gap between the window and the stud frame. The reveal screws to the stud frame and permits fitting of curtains and blinds. I use steel stud because it is termite proof and easier to use than timber. The bottom tracks fix to the slab with little expanding nails and the studs just click in. They aren’t load bearing so most of them aren’t even screw down. You can double the studs up at doorways to provide greater strength. They are easy to cut with hand tools, just measure, score each side and bend back and forth until it snaps. They are pre punched for services but my electrician said never run cables horizontally in walls. |
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Post by spinifex on Feb 20, 2024 15:31:43 GMT 10
A few questions: Did you get the shed designed and built with windows already in place or retrofit them? Can you please put up a few pics of how those windows are fitted into walls/framing before the plasterboard is put on. How easy is it to use the steel framing system for lining out and putting in internal walls? (I've got plenty experience with timber but not steel and am wondering which way to go for doing my framing).
Mate forget plasterboard! Check this bloke out at 3.13 I wish I saw his YT Vids 30 years ago if they were around! Matter of fact check all his videos, there is some good stuff there re shed builds! I was going to use thin ply to line walls instead of plasterboard. I'm not into building dwellings out of chalk. But that iron finish is rather good. And I've seen a small cabin done like that and it looks pretty good. I'll check those videos out for sure. |
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Post by frostbite on Feb 20, 2024 15:32:47 GMT 10
Iron radiates heat.
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Post by malewithatail on Feb 20, 2024 15:40:14 GMT 10
The roof is supported with an galv pipe frame, chased into the Styrofoam inside the panels. Simple to do as Styrofoam is easy to work with. Made a bit of a mess, if doing it again would use vacuum cleaner to suck up the bits as they were made.
It rests on brick foundation pillars, and the roof is conventional wood beam with galv iron sheeting, and insulation, (and the 3.6 kw solar array) screwed to it. All conventional construction techniques and to code.
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Post by spinifex on Feb 20, 2024 15:40:16 GMT 10
Frostbite, who makes the steel framing you used? And is it available through the likes of Mitre 10 or best sourced from steel suppliers?
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Post by frostbite on Feb 20, 2024 15:55:09 GMT 10
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Post by norseman on Feb 21, 2024 4:06:31 GMT 10
This is virtually the same makeshift bathroom / laundry / toilet area we built in our shed, same ideas / concepts but fancier execution and finish by him. I built it and the "kitchen" at minimal expense with the idea of being able to easily strip it all out once our house was built, in the end it all stayed in place and is still being used as a secondary facility to this day.
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Post by frostbite on Mar 1, 2024 16:33:02 GMT 10
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Post by frostbite on Mar 1, 2024 16:36:34 GMT 10
Spinifex, that last photo shows how I box around the window, creating a reveal. It doesn’t look plumb in that photo because I was in the process of dismantling the reveal and building another one, because I like my joins to be 100% or I redo it.
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Post by spinifex on Mar 2, 2024 15:44:45 GMT 10
Thanks Frostbite. Looks good having deep window sills.
We will be doing same but installing our own windows from scratch so we can use the size we want.
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Post by Stealth on Mar 3, 2024 1:56:59 GMT 10
Looks fantastic! Here's me trying to decide if I can competently organise a slab to be laid when we finally find our forever home, for the purposes of building a similar set up. Thankfully we have a family friend who's a fantastic builder. I'm fairly confident that if I offer to pay him in supplies for his beer making endeavours, he'll happily slap me in the back of the head when I do stupid things 🤣. How much do you reckon the whole build will cost you by the time you're done? I assume doing the majority of it yourself would help drastically for costs. I've seen a few kit 'granny homes' that if you have the basic know-how seem to be a relatively good price but I'd suspect your customisation freedom on that would have to make it worth it to do it yourself.
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Post by frostbite on Mar 3, 2024 6:47:04 GMT 10
Slab $15000 including a full day with an excavator and a second 24m sq slab between the two containers.
Shed kit $15,000 12m x 4m plus 12m x 2.5m verandah including 4 windows and 1 glass sliding door and roof insulation
Erection. (giggle) $15500. Because nobody else was available to erect and wages were very high due to so many tradies working on Snowy 2.
Insulation r4 earthwool $700
Steel stud perhaps $700
Vinyl flooring approx $700 including a few bottles of wine for the ladies who help lay it.
Plasterboard and skirting including delivery $1400 ( I paid more to get the 1350mm wide sheets to save time and effort setting- 1 join instead of 2 each 2.7m wall)
Electrical perhaps $300. 5 double PowerPoints and 5 batten lights. I did most of it myself with an electrician friend finishing it off for free.
I could have saved $15500 by erecting myself but Mrs wouldn’t let me, but she was happy for me to erect 24m x 12m x 5m she’d for my work wife around the same time.
All up about $50k.
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Post by Stealth on Mar 3, 2024 11:29:40 GMT 10
Huh, that's cheaper than I'd thought! Definitely opens the mind up to options.
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Post by frostbite on Apr 1, 2024 13:48:25 GMT 10
Started enclosing the open dining area with glass. The kitchen in the cabin was never designed to seat a dozen people, so we use this open area for larger groups, but it gets very cold in winter. This should fix that:   |
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Post by tactile on Apr 1, 2024 14:51:43 GMT 10
Double glazing not justifiable at this local?
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Post by frostbite on Apr 1, 2024 19:00:26 GMT 10
Those windows cost me $100 each, not including the metal subhead, angle and framing pine. Much cheaper than double glazing.
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Post by malewithatail on Apr 1, 2024 19:23:02 GMT 10
I see an issue mate. The roof doesn't extend over the slab, so water may get under the windows. If it freezes it could cause damage.
And it freezes down there. I have seen snow on the Robinson farm on the Deua river and camping in snow isn't fun !
Nice shed though.
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