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Post by spinifex on Mar 20, 2018 17:32:06 GMT 10
I don't think there are plenty of ways in that scenario. Who has them? Military, Police, farmers (possibly) and Crims. Crims are the least organised and easiest source of hardware out of those options.
This is Australia ... not USA. Semiautos are uncommon here among the general population. Maybe slightly more common in Qld where rego and such were super lax pre-1996.
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Post by Peter on Mar 20, 2018 22:11:56 GMT 10
Crims are the least organised?
I seem to recall a bikie gang raiding the SAS armoury in Swanbourne a few years back... I'm assuming they didn't just get the idea 15 minutes beforehand at the CBH...
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Post by Morgo on Mar 21, 2018 8:35:46 GMT 10
I don't think there are plenty of ways in that scenario. Who has them? Military, Police, farmers (possibly) and Crims. Crims are the least organised and easiest source of hardware out of those options. This is Australia ... not USA. Semiautos are uncommon here among the general population. Maybe slightly more common in Qld where rego and such were super lax pre-1996. Guess it just comes down to who/what you know. I've been shooting for years and I'm friends with many people that have access to self loading rifles. Who has them? Sure Military, Police, farmers, crims but also gun shops, private firearms dealers, cat C licence holders, cat D licence holders, gun smiths, club armourer, collectors Sure they are not as common as in the us but there are still plenty around that they are not uncommon, you only need to browse usedguns regularly to see how often they come up for sale. The imports of Cat C and D firearms over the past few years have gone up and the prices have come way down too. |
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Post by spinifex on Mar 21, 2018 16:05:37 GMT 10
Yes. But. Gunshops, firearms dealers, GunSmiths and clubs will presumably be early targets for both police and Crims. You'd need to be one of the very first looters to beat the rush. The other sources (collectors and individual owners) would be difficult to find for the suburban based folks in the scenario who are described as being 'visitors'at the location.
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Post by Morgo on Mar 21, 2018 19:03:39 GMT 10
In that case it comes down to picking your battle.
Either
1. Take on the guy armed with the ar15 with a knife now with the risks
or having gotten away safely from that group
2. Try and get to a location where you can acquire the same or similar item more easily with less risk.
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Post by Morgo on Mar 21, 2018 19:07:50 GMT 10
Or just buy a couple of these, perfectly legal on cat h licence in some states and legal to own but not assemble in others:    Or like those perhaps  |
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Post by Morgo on Mar 21, 2018 20:01:34 GMT 10
lol, it's certainly been around now  |
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Post by spinifex on Mar 22, 2018 19:37:29 GMT 10
How much longer you reckon those will be legal for? Seems like hard work to me. I gave up pistols years ago because the compliance was getting tedious. I'll stick to taking assault weapons off the criminally inclined fools after SHTF ... should it ever come to that. Which I doubt.
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Post by fei on Apr 2, 2018 23:59:22 GMT 10
Crims are the least organised? I seem to recall a bikie gang raiding the SAS armoury in Swanbourne a few years back... I'm assuming they didn't just get the idea 15 minutes beforehand at the CBH... I think it was Ben Cousins when he was in his "consorting with bikies" mode rather than bikies themselves. Interestingly enough he supposedly just jumped the fence and went in, looking for drugs. There was a guy who stole an APC (arnoured personnel carrier) from Karrakatta barracks in the nineties and went on a rampage though. Think he was locked up in the loonie bin after that, although there were posters of him up at several of the barracks after that saying that if anyone saw him to immediately call security. |
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Post by Peter on Apr 3, 2018 20:28:11 GMT 10
There was a guy who stole an APC (arnoured personnel carrier) from Karrakatta barracks in the nineties and went on a rampage though. Think he was locked up in the loonie bin after that, although there were posters of him up at several of the barracks after that saying that if anyone saw him to immediately call security. I remember that... traffic was jammed up for hours so it was the one and only time I was ever late for uni. But then again, so was most of the class (including the lecturer). |
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