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Post by Stealth on Apr 1, 2022 11:51:13 GMT 10
I can't agree more. Gov policy on property, housing, international investments, external politics... It's all wobbling that drastically precarious house of cards that is our relatively peaceful way of life.
The crappy part is that those of us that came to our majority only to inherit the left-overs from the prosperity of the early days of these terribly short-sighted policies are now left to reap the rewards. Or rather, the debt. Financial and otherwise.
Who could have known 20 years ago that one of our biggest trading partners would cause us the most direct instability? Oh, that's right, anyone with the ability to look at China's history in the last few hundred years and even have an inkling of their cultural behaviours.
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Post by bug on Apr 1, 2022 12:36:45 GMT 10
"Who could have known 20 years ago that one of our biggest trading partners would cause us the most direct instability? Oh, that's right, anyone with the ability to look at China's history in the last few hundred years and even have an inkling of their cultural behaviours."
Yup. Plenty of people were raising this as a big risk, but were ignored due to the amount of money being made from China. Who cares if it all goes pearshaped as long as I've already made my billions right?
For all the posturing on China by the government, I can't think of a single effective thing they've done to reduce/remove this risk. Tearing up the BRI was meaningless as those same Chinese companies are still working here under project contracts. The dispersion of some exports only happened because of Chinese sanctions. So really, no government, state or federal, has done anything at all meaningful to de-risk our position.
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Post by norseman on Apr 1, 2022 12:37:02 GMT 10
This is history repeating itself! Those broken red lines to the lower right were Japan's intended strategy for the blockading of Australia, Rabaul and the Solomon Islands were pivotal deep water Bases for making this happen. Eighty years later and we have China trying to do basically the same thing across the map! Who needs to create a new plan when you've got this one already!  |
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Post by bug on Apr 1, 2022 12:44:33 GMT 10
And the Japanese did it to "oppose western colonialism". Sounds pretty familiar.
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Post by bushdoc2 on Apr 1, 2022 19:43:58 GMT 10
What sort of pu$$y allows someone to force them off land that legally belongs to them? Those that have let themselves be de armed.
Accuracy is the sum total of all your compensating mistakes.
Those who have an entire county's police force trained by the Chinese to suppress insurrection. The average peasant vs the Solomons police? The cops there are being trained with the obvious intention of enforcing the will of China against the islanders themselves. |
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Post by SA Hunter on Apr 1, 2022 20:11:22 GMT 10
Yes, and how easy will it be to cut of our fuel supplies - you know - all our reserves held in the US.
Wow, just wow.
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Post by bug on Apr 2, 2022 9:10:02 GMT 10
Yes, and how easy will it be to cut of our fuel supplies - you know - all our reserves held in the US. Wow, just wow. Yup. It's madness. Good luck getting an Indian/Filipino crew to sail an oil tanker from San Diego to Melbourne, knowing they were a target for Chinese subs. |
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Post by frostbite on Apr 2, 2022 9:20:17 GMT 10
Good luck getting an insurance company to insure a ship that intends passing through waters the CCP have said are off limits.
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Post by milspec on Apr 2, 2022 9:29:57 GMT 10
I don't imagine the US is to happy about the prospect of a Chinese base on the back doorstep of Guam and the Marshal Islands either.
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Post by bug on Apr 2, 2022 16:18:40 GMT 10
The CCP have made it absolutely clear that Guam is a target. As loose a cannon as Trump was, he's got nothing on the CCP. They spout this stuff like a schoolyard bully threatening to beat everyone up.
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Post by norseman on Apr 3, 2022 6:31:24 GMT 10
Folks don't forget Vanuatu back in 2018 (formerly New Hebrides on the map above)! I've stood on that same dock and watched massive cruise ships come right in and tie up there! www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/10/concerns-china-in-talks-with-vanuatu-about-south-pacific-military-baseA Chinese embassy spokesman has said the idea that China is planning to establish a military base in Vanuatu is “ridiculous”. Australia’s Fairfax Media reported on Tuesday that China was eyeing a base in the Pacific nation. “That’s impossible,” said Chen Ke, a spokesman for the ambassador to Vanuatu.  A Vanuatu Mobile Force honour guard stands in front of a People’s Liberation Army of China navy frigate on a four-day friendly visit to Vanuatu. Photograph: Dan McGarry/Vanuatu Daily Post  |
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Post by bug on Apr 3, 2022 10:18:13 GMT 10
Folks don't forget Vanuatu back in 2018 (formerly New Hebrides on the map above)! I've stood on that same dock and watched massive cruise ships come right in and tie up there! www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/10/concerns-china-in-talks-with-vanuatu-about-south-pacific-military-baseA Chinese embassy spokesman has said the idea that China is planning to establish a military base in Vanuatu is “ridiculous”. Australia’s Fairfax Media reported on Tuesday that China was eyeing a base in the Pacific nation. “That’s impossible,” said Chen Ke, a spokesman for the ambassador to Vanuatu. A Vanuatu Mobile Force honour guard stands in front of a People’s Liberation Army of China navy frigate on a four-day friendly visit to Vanuatu. Photograph: Dan McGarry/Vanuatu Daily Post Ah yes. The familiar pattern. Year 0: Military bases, that's ridiculous, we'll never do that. You are just colonialists! Year 1: Chinese fishing boats start showing up and fishing in places they are not allowed to. Year 2: Chinese fishing boats get aggressive and force locals out. Year 3: China's grey navy shows up to 'protect' their fishing fleet. Year 4: Military bases built. They've followed this salami slice pattern in several countries. It has been very successful for them. |
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Post by norseman on Apr 4, 2022 8:56:38 GMT 10
Folks don't forget Vanuatu back in 2018 (formerly New Hebrides on the map above)! I've stood on that same dock and watched massive cruise ships come right in and tie up there! www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/10/concerns-china-in-talks-with-vanuatu-about-south-pacific-military-baseA Chinese embassy spokesman has said the idea that China is planning to establish a military base in Vanuatu is “ridiculous”. Australia’s Fairfax Media reported on Tuesday that China was eyeing a base in the Pacific nation. “That’s impossible,” said Chen Ke, a spokesman for the ambassador to Vanuatu. A Vanuatu Mobile Force honour guard stands in front of a People’s Liberation Army of China navy frigate on a four-day friendly visit to Vanuatu. Photograph: Dan McGarry/Vanuatu Daily Post Ah yes. The familiar pattern. Year 0: Military bases, that's ridiculous, we'll never do that. You are just colonialists! Year 1: Chinese fishing boats start showing up and fishing in places they are not allowed to. Year 2: Chinese fishing boats get aggressive and force locals out. Year 3: China's grey navy shows up to 'protect' their fishing fleet. Year 4: Military bases built. They've followed this salami slice pattern in several countries. It has been very successful for them. Yep! Seems to be the pattern! Interestingly the VMF blokes we saw out bush all had quite ancient Aussie SLRs, in the pic above it looks like they are sporting French Made FAMAS Assault Rifles. |
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Post by Stealth on Apr 4, 2022 18:48:57 GMT 10
Ah yes. The familiar pattern. Year 0: Military bases, that's ridiculous, we'll never do that. You are just colonialists! Year 1: Chinese fishing boats start showing up and fishing in places they are not allowed to. Year 2: Chinese fishing boats get aggressive and force locals out. Year 3: China's grey navy shows up to 'protect' their fishing fleet. Year 4: Military bases built. They've followed this salami slice pattern in several countries. It has been very successful for them. Nailed it. |
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Post by SA Hunter on Apr 6, 2022 21:48:28 GMT 10
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Post by Tim Horton on Apr 19, 2022 7:52:34 GMT 10
FYI...... A couple things I ran across on another forum... www.aspistrategist.org.au/china-threatens-australia-with-missile-attack/----- This interesting from a 1 st world, mostly English speaking countries prospective.. This guy is pretty good, I think.. --- --- How do you think one or the other.... Or both... Will affect you ?? Or the rest of the English speaking countries mostly ?? Facts, details, thoughts, opinions....?? ?? |
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Post by bug on Apr 19, 2022 9:42:15 GMT 10
Having the word "SHOCKED" in the title is usually an indicator of clickbait.
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Post by Beno on Apr 19, 2022 13:31:38 GMT 10
Having the word "SHOCKED" in the title is usually an indicator of clickbait. The whole youtube prepper scene is clickbait now, just cashing in using content that others provide them. it’s laughable but people keep flocking back for their daily dose of doom porn. |
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Post by Joey on Apr 22, 2022 8:06:53 GMT 10
Well looks like China and Solomon's have officially signed off on their little "security pact"
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Post by milspec on Apr 22, 2022 13:27:48 GMT 10
Well looks like China and Solomon's have officially signed off on their little "security pact" Yup, pretty soon that doomsday clock countdown is going to have to switch to fractions of a second . I'm sure that with the solid understanding of history held by Australians, there is a considerable level of concern amongst the community and an appetite for a strong Australian military & geopolitical response. ... actually disregard that, apathy will be flavour de jour until it is us looking skyward and wondering where the cruise missiles are going. |
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