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Post by Stealth on Aug 30, 2022 20:19:26 GMT 10
Mum has 426 meals prepared to feed her family for eight monthsYou heard it here first folks, stockpiling food is not fringe, it's 'mother of the year' material. Well, they're not wrong. But also if I could roll my eyes into the back of my head any harder they'd hit the back of my skull 🤣. "A mum has been dubbed the ultimate meal prepper after sharing how she has 426 meals preserved to feed her family for the next eight months. Kelsey Shaw, 30, keeps her pantry stocked full of home-grown canned fresh vegetables, pre-made meals, herbs, rice and pasta. The mum-of-three started preserving the food from her five-acre farm when the family moved to Crown Point, Indiana, US, in September 2017. Kelsey taught herself how to preserve everything - from pickles to a beef stew - and uses methods such as dehydration and water-canning to keep her cupboards stocked up."
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Post by spatial on Aug 30, 2022 22:15:22 GMT 10
A growing number of American YT preppers are saying the Windows for prepping is closing as food prices sky-rocketed and many items now in shortfall. Generally with prepping one waits for specials to purchase extra stocks. 20 million Americans households are behind on utilitie bills as food prices, fuel and cost of living is out of control. Having extra food going into winter is now seen as smart as many including Europeans will have to make the choice of eating or heating. In Poland, where coal is king, homeowners queue for days to buy fuel www.reuters.com/world/europe/poland-where-coal-is-king-homeowners-queue-days-buy-fuel-2022-08-27/
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Post by norseman on Aug 31, 2022 3:12:44 GMT 10
Coincidentally I found this today-
"Wealth consists not in having great possessions, but in having few wants." - Epictetus
I think this preparedness "thing" has as much to do with training and behaviour modification as it does with stashing tons of stuff away. The woman with the 426 meals to feed her family for 8 months could easily stretch that out if they only consumed a full meal once a day although with kids I understand what it's like, they are voracious and would be an exception. Half the crap most of us have in our lives are total wants not needs and much of it could disappear and we wouldn't notice it gone at all. Having tons of shit that half the time you can't find or even remember you own is probably worse than not having it at all and yes I'm as guilty as anyone!
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Post by frostbite on Aug 31, 2022 7:46:43 GMT 10
I thought you measured wealth by the number of grandchildren you have.
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Post by tactile on Aug 31, 2022 7:55:39 GMT 10
How's that supposed to work?! If offspring is any indication I'm busted ass!
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Post by malewithatail on Aug 31, 2022 8:33:29 GMT 10
Its all well and good having heaps stashed away, but, eventually it will run out. Thats when the resupply plan comes in, gardens, alternative water supply's, electric, fuel and so on.
We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give.
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Post by frostbite on Aug 31, 2022 9:59:53 GMT 10
How's that supposed to work?! If offspring is any indication I'm busted ass! No grandchildren then? Those that have them know what I mean. Here's some grandchild gold worth more than physical gold: 4yo old grandson on video call: "OPA, show me your pew pew". I get nerf gun out and hold up to screen. " No Opa, real pew pew. Metal pew pew". So down to the gunsafe I go.
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Post by tactile on Aug 31, 2022 12:05:32 GMT 10
How's that supposed to work?! If offspring is any indication I'm busted ass! No grandchildren then? Those that have them know what I mean. Here's some grandchild gold worth more than physical gold: 4yo old grandson on video call: "OPA, show me your pew pew". I get nerf gun out and hold up to screen. " No Opa, real pew pew. Metal pew pew". So down to the gunsafe I go. Grandchildren? I'm looking into nefarious ways to be rid of my cat!
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Post by norseman on Aug 31, 2022 13:50:18 GMT 10
I thought you measured wealth by the number of grandchildren you have. I'm Rich!
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Post by frostbite on Aug 31, 2022 14:17:14 GMT 10
I thought you measured wealth by the number of grandchildren you have. I'm Rich! You're a billionaire. Looking forward to grandkids (yours and mine) getting corrupted at the Carnage meets when they're older.
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Post by Joey on Aug 31, 2022 16:59:28 GMT 10
No grandchildren then? Those that have them know what I mean. Here's some grandchild gold worth more than physical gold: 4yo old grandson on video call: "OPA, show me your pew pew". I get nerf gun out and hold up to screen. " No Opa, real pew pew. Metal pew pew". So down to the gunsafe I go. Grandchildren? I'm looking into nefarious ways to be rid of my cat! Use it to catch crabs lol
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Post by dirtdiva on Sept 1, 2022 1:04:20 GMT 10
Mum has 426 meals prepared to feed her family for eight monthsYou heard it here first folks, stockpiling food is not fringe, it's 'mother of the year' material. Well, they're not wrong. But also if I could roll my eyes into the back of my head any harder they'd hit the back of my skull 🤣. "A mum has been dubbed the ultimate meal prepper after sharing how she has 426 meals preserved to feed her family for the next eight months. Kelsey Shaw, 30, keeps her pantry stocked full of home-grown canned fresh vegetables, pre-made meals, herbs, rice and pasta. The mum-of-three started preserving the food from her five-acre farm when the family moved to Crown Point, Indiana, US, in September 2017. Kelsey taught herself how to preserve everything - from pickles to a beef stew - and uses methods such as dehydration and water-canning to keep her cupboards stocked up." Ironic that it is now news worthy. Americans have done this since the beginning. It is the natural cycle of US farming in that you plant, nurture and then harvest and then preserve what you harvest to last through the coming winter then the cycle repeats. Even the native Americans prepped for winter and lean times. When you rob the bees the wax becomes your candles for the year. When you butcher in the cool autumn you render the lard to become your soap for the year. Basements and cellars across the nation were stuffed for the lean winter months ahead. Everyone was a prepper. This generation has just been egotistical and arrogant enough to put a label to it and even give it a reality TV show. Supermarkets did not even exist in the United States until like the 40's so this was the way everyone lived. Then it became a novel occurrence when everyone started shopping in supermarkets. We became consumers instead of producers and preppers. People who lived like this 30 years ago were frowned upon and considered backwards or not mainstream thus many of these skills were lost. As the supermarket systems have failed of late people have returned to this way of life in droves. Thus the shortage of seeds, canning supplies and such. If the SHTF we will all have to be living this way to eat at all. I saw this same phenomenon in the back to land movement of the 60's and 70's, the Y2K scare of the millennium in the late 90's and now again post Covid. It was common during the Great Depression and even WW2. When times get hard people rise to the occasion if they are smart to survive. It is not that people like me haven't lived this way for generations it is that during hard times it is just more accepted. When and IF things ever go back to normal we will again be outcasts kind of like preppers. You know we become " the crazy people actually farming to eat". I was farming and prepping when neither was cool! My adult children and grandchildren are on a crusade to get me to not live this way and retire. But it is truly a way of life and once you live this way it becomes the norm. It is all that many know.
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Post by Tim Horton on Sept 1, 2022 3:37:43 GMT 10
The picture Dirtdive posted is what I remember as a kid.. This being the basement of my grand parents house on the ranch.. We had 3 families that lived on the ranch place and other relatives families that lived reasonably close or in town.. All contributed to and used from the family larder as well as keeping there own preps..
Here in the far north, and this far out of Pot Hole City... We live somewhat that way now.. Likely as much packaged preps as we have home preserved items... In todays world many more options available.. We do make the family recipe Chow - Chow for all..
Frankly.. Of the hundreds of opinions about ...this strategy will work better than that strategy... and the like.. This way of living worked well from at least the 1870s until ...when ever... as the pioneers settled the North America in general..
At my age and this point of life, I'm going to error on the side of "proven" strategy..
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Post by Stealth on Sept 1, 2022 17:47:03 GMT 10
My adult children and grandchildren are on a crusade to get me to not live this way and retire. But it is truly a way of life and once you live this way it becomes the norm. It is all that many know. But... WHY?! I mean in honesty I can understand wanting your nearest and dearest to live comfortably without hard graft but honestly? It seems like those who're older than me find real enjoyment and value in their gardens and massive satisfaction in seeing a pile of healthy produce. It seems crazy to insist that someone do otherwise just to satisfy one's on assumptions of what is time well spent 😐. Well obviously I'm predisposed to thinking self-sufficiency is a great thing. But even before I started looking into prepping I was always envious of the amazing gardens of my elders. Even here in Australia it's considered standard for rural families to exercise a certain level of preparedness. It's just rarely called that because of the stigma from American preppers that got onto tv over time. I think most rural Aussies just call it either 'being organised' or... well, living life! Lol. When you can only get into town once a month to do a family's shopping (or every 3-6 months, depending on where you live!) it's not that unusual to make sure that your cupboards are as full as they can be. Obviously those who live far out enough to need a light plane to get into the closest rural centre are less likely to grow as much simply because the climate doesn't really allow for it. But even so... I'm sure if you scratch any rural or remote farming family in Australia you'll find a prepper underneath! I find it infinitely funny to see these sort of articles. Especially from 'news' sources like news.com.au. But I can't be entirely pessimistic about it because at least it gets people using their future-brains instead of their just-in-time-brains.
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Post by bug on Sept 2, 2022 10:08:10 GMT 10
I wonder how many of those 426 meals require refrigeration.
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Post by dirtdiva on Sept 2, 2022 10:48:43 GMT 10
I completely agree! I hope that maybe with attention to the necessity for food production and preservation that it will spark the return of things such as community sponsored canneries and a resurgence in interest for some of the older skills in a new generation.
As a child I can remember post WW2 canneries and going with my mother and my aunts loaded down with bushels of corn, potatoes and beans out of our gardens and taking them to the small community cannery near our home. It was sponsored by the state and also community. You bought your tins, supplied your own labor and used commercial machinery to shell beans, take corn off the cob and peel potatoes. Then you filled your tins and sealed them then ran them on a conveyer belt through the canner heating and pressure cooking them. It was quite the set up and we could can in a day what would take us weeks to can on the farm in jars. It was very well used in our community. There were something like 3,000 of them all across America. I think now they have mostly disappeared.
Now I think the food industry and supermarket chains would fight putting them back in communities.
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Post by bug on Sept 2, 2022 11:38:56 GMT 10
Spot on DD. There would be instant 'lobbying' from large corporations to the government if that ever became a real possibility.
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Post by Stealth on Sept 3, 2022 9:34:24 GMT 10
Yep, definitely on the money there! I think the problem here in Aus wouldn't be so much lobbying from large corporations though. The reality is that most Aussies these days are far too conditioned to going to the store to pick up what they want, they're not growing anything. YET. I think the bigger blocker would be local councils. For example I know in WA (at least, where my in-laws live) you can't sell any kind of secondary produce unless it's made in a kitchen that's up to commercial specs. Now, that's not too hard to achieve. But most people don't want their home kitchens covered in stainless steal and using commercial fridges and cleaners etc. And of course there's the outlay of refitting your whole kitchen just to get to the ability to do it. So a huge proportion of people with excess produce who could make a few dollars selling their jams etc. are effectively blocked from doing so. So getting a community kitchen set up would be a massive amount of red tape. Approvals for the building. Cost of install and upkeep. Someone (probably several someones) would have to be certified to come in and regularly deep clean it to 'approved' levels. Which I'd assume is the same level of cleanliness that I expect in my own kitchen, only with a signature 🤣. OHS certifications for use. The list would be huge. You probably could do it if you were determined and patient. I'm neither one. I fall more into the group of people that would rather keep high standards in my own kitchen and do produce swap rather than sale lol
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Post by frostbite on Sept 3, 2022 10:43:36 GMT 10
Hard to grow anything on a 350m sq block that has a large 4 bedroom house on it and a backyard that's 2m long.
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Post by malewithatail on Sept 3, 2022 11:57:48 GMT 10
Hard to grow anything on a 350m sq block that has a large 4 bedroom house on it and a backyard that's 2m long. Time to relocate FB.
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