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Post by norseman on Feb 11, 2023 6:55:51 GMT 10
My daughter, a returned ‘serviceman’ , tried to get into an RSL a long way from home to use the toilet. She was refused entry because she wasn’t a member. That told me all I need to know about the RSL. A lot of WW2, Korean, Viet vets I know including some of my own family members refused to go to RSL clubs because there always was and still is a "club" within the "club" that "ordinary members" never get to join!
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Post by Stealth on Feb 11, 2023 12:38:43 GMT 10
RSLs are for dusty old dudes with dusty old minds. And I say that because the older vets that I've had chats with are ALWAYS welcoming and inclusive, but I've never had those chats inside of an RSL. You step foot through the front door of an RSL as a woman and you get glares instantly.
I'll never forget the way my gold card war widow grandmother was treated by the local RSLs in her area in the early 2000s. She used to go to two local ones for bingo twice a week. But the people going for bingo weren't allowed anywhere but in the main hall for the session and they had to leave straight afterwards. They had a little cafe that all the bingo players could see but weren't allowed to buy anything from.
Fancy that, refusing revenue from people a large group of people who were mostly either war widows or families of veterans because they were largely war-generation folk. It made no sense then and even less now when you see how badly RSL membership has tanked.
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Post by tactile on Feb 11, 2023 12:49:16 GMT 10
The RSL in the Country Town I'm from serves, without a doubt, the worst pub meals in town. They are the cheapest though so the locals go there in droves - they get what they deserve. I refuse to go there because they ask for ID for entry. Great - give away your privacy in exchange for crap meals. Pokies ruined this place.
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Post by bug on Feb 11, 2023 13:20:50 GMT 10
RSLs are for dusty old dudes with dusty old minds. And I say that because the older vets that I've had chats with are ALWAYS welcoming and inclusive, but I've never had those chats inside of an RSL. You step foot through the front door of an RSL as a woman and you get glares instantly. I'll never forget the way my gold card war widow grandmother was treated by the local RSLs in her area in the early 2000s. She used to go to two local ones for bingo twice a week. But the people going for bingo weren't allowed anywhere but in the main hall for the session and they had to leave straight afterwards. They had a little cafe that all the bingo players could see but weren't allowed to buy anything from. Fancy that, refusing revenue from people a large group of people who were mostly either war widows or families of veterans because they were largely war-generation folk. It made no sense then and even less now when you see how badly RSL membership has tanked. Saying that RSLs are not inclusive to women is utter crap in most places. Not sure why it's occurring to you, but it's a very unusual thing you are describing. The bit about bingo isn't surprising though. As others have said, the RSL definitely has an inner and an outer group. The 'inner' group seems to be pokies driven and will seek to steamroll anything threatening them and usually succeed. The rest of the full and social members are pretty much meaningless to them, other than happy that they exist to maintain the illusion that the RSL has something to do with the military and veterans, which it no longer does.
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Post by bug on Feb 11, 2023 13:22:53 GMT 10
My daughter, a returned ‘serviceman’ , tried to get into an RSL a long way from home to use the toilet. She was refused entry because she wasn’t a member. That told me all I need to know about the RSL. A lot of WW2, Korean, Viet vets I know including some of my own family members refused to go to RSL clubs because there always was and still is a "club" within the "club" that "ordinary members" never get to join! Yeah, it's interesting. I've spoken to a few who are trying to break this circle (without success so far). They've been literally locked out during votes, then told "you're always welcome here" afterwards. Those I refer to are veterans, not social members.
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Post by malewithatail on Feb 11, 2023 15:50:04 GMT 10
Sad that the RSL carry's on that way, have been in the same position. Local RSL wanted my military ID (service number) to get entry, told them to stick it and never been back.
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Post by Stealth on Feb 11, 2023 16:49:26 GMT 10
Saying that RSLs are not inclusive to women is utter crap in most places. Not sure why it's occurring to you, but it's a very unusual thing you are describing. No. It's not. When a person with lived experience tells you that they've experienced something the correct answer is not to try to gaslight them into thinking they (and their other female friends with similar experiences) imagined it just because it doesn't suit your narrative. Tells me all I need to know when a bloke above says that his daughter was treated poorly and that gets no comment, but the actual horses mouth of a female vet saying that they've had bad experiences with RSLs gets "utter crap".
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Post by spinifex on Feb 11, 2023 17:45:29 GMT 10
My daughter, a returned ‘serviceman’ , tried to get into an RSL a long way from home to use the toilet. She was refused entry because she wasn’t a member. That told me all I need to know about the RSL. That's shameful on multiple levels ...
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Post by bug on Feb 11, 2023 19:20:44 GMT 10
Saying that RSLs are not inclusive to women is utter crap in most places. Not sure why it's occurring to you, but it's a very unusual thing you are describing. No. It's not. When a person with lived experience tells you that they've experienced something the correct answer is not to try to gaslight them into thinking they (and their other female friends with similar experiences) imagined it just because it doesn't suit your narrative. Tells me all I need to know when a bloke above says that his daughter was treated poorly and that gets no comment, but the actual horses mouth of a female vet saying that they've had bad experiences with RSLs gets "utter crap". Forgive me for not reading every single post on this site and then replying to it in a manner that suits you. Believe it or not, some of us don't spend all day on here reading everything that everyone says. A shock, I know. Deliberately misquoting (dropping the 'most places' part) to suit the insult (gaslighting) that you want to throw is perfectly ok. If you need to manipulate what someone said in order to give the comeback that makes you feel good inside, consider first why you had to do that.
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Post by Stealth on Feb 11, 2023 23:30:44 GMT 10
I know how to recognise a man flogging a dead horse when I see one. I'll just leave this alone. Thanks for the chuckle though.
I'm going to return to the point of the original post now, and apologise both to you and all for letting it get off track. I should have switched on straight away that my comment helped stray from the original post. If it feels appropriate I'm happy for others to start a thread discussing the topics mentioned above. I likely will not interact with them. No need to get spicy over something that doesn't impact on anyone else's life.
I'm not the boss of anyone. I'm just not going to be responding to that topic any further.
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Post by spatial on Feb 15, 2023 18:54:42 GMT 10
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Post by spatial on Apr 5, 2023 16:46:47 GMT 10
Global food shortages is still accelerating. US being hit hard and pandemics are also continuing. California orang crop hit by citrus greening disease.. Did You Know That U.S. Crops Are Being Absolutely Devastated By Nightmarish Disasters From Coast To Coast?theeconomiccollapseblog.com/did-you-know-that-u-s-crops-are-being-absolutely-devastated-by-nightmarish-disasters-from-coast-to-coast/Beasley said WFP was just forced to cut rations by 50% to 4 million people in Afghanistan, and “these are people who are knocking on famine’s door now.”“We don’t have enough money just to reach the most vulnerable people now,” he said. “So we are in a crisis over the cliff stage right now, where we literally could have hell on earth if we’re not very careful.”Less than 20 percent of Kansas winter wheat is in good to excellent condition. Colorado winter wheat was rated 27% good to excellent and 33% very poor to poor. Oklahoma’s and Texas’ crops were rated at 26% and 18% good to excellent, and 40% and 47% very poor to poor, respectively, he said.
California’s snowpack levels varied by region, with the Southern Sierra snowpack reaching 300% of its April 1 average and the Central Sierra reaching 237% of its April 1 average, officials said. And the critical Northern Sierra, home to the state’s largest surface water reservoirs, is at 192% of its April 1 average.
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Post by malewithatail on Apr 5, 2023 18:17:16 GMT 10
Add the MRNA jab to farm animals and we are set for food caos.
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Post by Stealth on Apr 11, 2023 20:08:47 GMT 10
I'm updating my previous prediction. I had thought when I first posted in this that the metals bubble wouldn't be likely until 2024. I'm changing that prediction. Or rather, adjusting it.
I think we may see the metals bubble happen within this year. Either by the end of this year, or by mid-year next year. But the stage is setting now. Bitcoin is over $30k again for the first time in ages. People are looking for safe-haven places to put their money and while I don't think personally that crypto is that (still too unstable by far, in ten years maybe) there are plenty who do, and sentiment is starting to show it.
Shelves are definitely less stocked around us and people are starting to sell up things that they perhaps don't use as much anymore like caravans and boats. I've noticed a lot more with 'for sale' signs in yards lately. Not that people seem to be panicking yet, but there's a steady flow of second-hand caravans and the like on FB market place compared to a few months ago. Could be because the cooler weather is coming through, I'm not ready to make the call yet. But I think people are definitely starting to think more of the looming future. Quite a few people recommending buying a second-hand caravan as a home because the rental crisis here is off the charts.
So my guess about housing becoming worse is absolutely true, at least in our area. I have the feeling that for a lot of people no matter what happens, their end of year is going to look ENTIRELY different to how their year started.
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Post by malewithatail on Apr 12, 2023 11:54:06 GMT 10
I predict the fog of misinformation re the jabs will lift, slowly at first, then as the dominoes fall, many, many people will have regrets at believing what they were told was truth.
As a result, Governments will fall, and heads will roll.
Maybe not in 2023, but in the near future.
Governments produce scarcity by shutting off pipelines, shutting down farming operations, taxing productivity and deliberately causing food shortages and inflation. Money printing steals savings from everyone, creating scarcity of the purchasing value of dollars previously earned.
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Post by spatial on Apr 12, 2023 15:05:15 GMT 10
I'm updating my previous prediction. I had thought when I first posted in this that the metals bubble wouldn't be likely until 2024. I'm changing that prediction. Or rather, adjusting it.... Shelves are definitely less stocked around us and people are starting to sell up things that they perhaps don't use as much anymore like caravans and boats. I've noticed a lot more with 'for sale' signs in yards lately. Not that people seem to be panicking yet, but there's a steady flow of second-hand caravans and the like on FB market place compared to a few months ago.Word on the street is that 40-60% of home lone applications are falsified, overstate income and understate expenses. Now with interest rates up up up and paying an extra $1,000 to $1,500 on mortgage per month, not long and the credit cards run dry and it suddenly all goes belly up. Construction companies are failing, in Aus. In the US Walmart are closing down all retail in Chicago and other large cities, McDonald’s going through a major downsizing. Inflation is rising again, the IMF has now downgraded global growth for 2023 and 2024, they always overestimate growth, so it will be a lot worse than they are saying. There is a lot of evidence that the US consumer is tapped out. Trucking in the US a bellwether of how the economy is going is collapsing. Walmart Abandons Unprofitable Chicago Stores After Investing "Hundreds Of Millions" In CityAfter two decades of losses and "hundreds of millions of dollars" invested in Chicago, Walmart is shuttering four unprofitable stores in the metropolitan area, reducing its store footprint by half in the crime-ridden city. www.zerohedge.com/markets/walmart-shuts-down-four-chicago-stores-due-never-making-profitTruckload capacity flips from unsustainably tight to unsustainably loose www.freightwaves.com/news/truckload-capacity-flips-from-unsustainably-tight-to-unsustainably-looseRejection rates fall to 3-year low
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Post by tactile on Apr 12, 2023 16:28:41 GMT 10
Looks like gold is staying over $3k AU...for now. Hearing some rumblings on the weakness of commercial realestate in the US. A lot of it is empty with a lot of debt connected to it.
$450b is to be refinanced per year for 3+ years - over $1.2t - a lot of it is empty (same here too) and 70% of that debt is on regional banks books - the ones who are struggling. I'm not sure if this is a financial collapse issue...not big enough I dont think. The big banks will just swallow it all with the help of the gov. Will be interesting times though...
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Post by tactile on Apr 12, 2023 16:41:02 GMT 10
I predict the fog of misinformation re the jabs will lift, slowly at first, then as the dominoes fall, many, many people will have regrets at believing what they were told was truth. As a result, Governments will fall, and heads will roll. Maybe not in 2023, but in the near future. Does anyone here know anyone with adverse effects from the vaccine? And I'm not talking about the crap you heard down the pub or read on Zerohedge or any other nutter sites - actual real people that you know. I have a friend who has a friend who's young son was screwed up but I have never met them. All the people I know and all my family - I dont directly know of anyone with adverse effects.
I dont even know of anyone who was screwed up by the virus itself - My barber reckons he's got "Long Covid" but he was always whining about being crook before the thing got lose from Wuhan!
I have read the theories and that it could cause damage down the track...but I'm still waiting!
What's everyone else's experience?
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Post by Stealth on Apr 12, 2023 20:44:35 GMT 10
I can't say I know anyone that's suffered vaccine injury. I'm 100% sure that there ARE people. There are with every vaccine. We probably won't even know if there's going to be long-term problems for a very long time yet. But I did notice they quietly removed one of the vaccines for the Australian market. The story is that they have just upgraded for the newer versions that are out now. That may or may not be true.
But it could be we'll never hear about those cases. It's far too easy for information to be hidden from the public if it's deemed worthwhile. I've always believed there was risk. I just weighed that against the risk of not being vaccinated. For me it was an easy choice. But I haven't had any more boosters and won't do unless I have no choice. But my family's livelihood comes first and that's what I made my choices based on at the time. Now I have the luxury of working fully remote it's unlikely that I'll ever have to make that choice again thankfully.
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Post by tactile on Apr 13, 2023 8:04:32 GMT 10
My argument is that if this vaccine thing was as bad as the nutter-sites were saying, we would know people who have it. The stats wouldn't matter - we would know people effected and we wouldn't need any confirmation - we would know ourselves.
My take so far is it's no worse than any other vaccine.
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