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Post by bce1 on Jul 3, 2023 13:59:19 GMT 10
I know what you mean with 'pureblood' - although never took you for a Harry Potter fan - but just in the interests of proboards not kicking us of, can we dampen the references to anything that could be construed with eugenics?
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Post by norseman on Jul 3, 2023 15:49:17 GMT 10
I know what you mean with 'pureblood' - although never took you for a Harry Potter fan - but just in the interests of proboards not kicking us of, can we dampen the references to anything that could be construed with eugenics? So mate, Eugenics is off the table but is it still OK to discuss breeding Master Race or not so good maybe? |
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Post by frostbite on Jul 3, 2023 16:07:52 GMT 10
Is a government that pushes mRNA vaccines guilty of Eugenics? Asking for a friend.
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Post by Stealth on Jul 3, 2023 16:17:45 GMT 10
Every generation thinks they're the best...I would argue the Boomers are at the root of all the problems we have in the world now...yes some good things were done under their watch, but at a huge cost.
I'm biased though, I've never got along with boomers and just thought I was a natural Troll. I always got along with Silents though, and the later generations. The book 'The Fourth Turning' explained it all to me in pretty logically. The author is scathing of Boomers (he is one) and I agree with pretty much everything he says.
A good read.
Mate I'm a youngish "Boomer" and I hate most of em, like the self-entitled, self-funded farkers that think the World owes them everything! But I'm also in the camp that thinks 90% of the Human Race are pure Oxygen Thieves and no I don't preclude myself from the 90% that's for others to judge! Our deeds and not our words are what really matter! Oh I wasn't adding my bit about daycare costs as a 'boomer vs. millennial' debate comment. Just pointing out something that even my own boomer mum didn't believe could be true! It's ridiculous, cost of living is putting everyone under. But in my opinion boomers aren't the biggest problem by any stretch. Most of the boomers I speak to on a regular basis are more inclined to agree that everything went downhill after the dot com bust and that they systemically had a lot more advantages than today's younger generations. As if you wouldn't take advantage of free tertiary education. Why would you not buy a house to rent out as an investment if it meant you didn't have to be someone else's wage slave? If I had things like negative gearing and franking credits to lean on to make life more comfortable you bet your nelly I'd be doing it. Because why would you NOT take advantage of systems that are there to be taken advantage of?! I have a lot of time for the Silents too. I think it's because it's now well-baked into my attitude to have a make, do, mend way of looking at life now. Like this, do that. So not listening to people pissing and moaning about the SIMPLEST things is one of the most refreshing things about talking to a Silent! They know what really matters in life. Boomers and millennials are both super guilty of squawking about every. tiny. little. inconvenience. Get over yourselves, gut up and make things better. Have a whinge about it, sure. That helps to clear your thoughts and stops you spinning in circles over the things you can't change. Heck, whinge WHILE you're fixing it if you like. But once you've stuck your lip out for a bit and had a bit of a sook, start looking for the ways to change the situation. Boomers and millennials as collective groups both seem to have missed that lesson. We've collectively forgotten how to move forward. Aaaaaaaaanyway, back to the point of the thread haha. Sorry to derail dadbod! I do agree that we've got at least 30 years of austerity coming our way. It makes me sad, because that will be the largest part of my young kids working lives. But it's also what drives me to prep in any way that I can to ensure that they have a fall-back option. That means not only financially but also with skills and thought processes that will help them to get by when others might give up. |
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Post by tactile on Jul 3, 2023 17:18:15 GMT 10
The one that grates me most is how they (boomers) slide on the edge of fraud to hide assets and income so they can get benefits like the health care card. When asked why bother when most of them can easily self fund they respond that they payed tax all their life and its their right...then in the same sentence say millennials are entitled!
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Post by Stealth on Jul 3, 2023 17:20:22 GMT 10
Let's be logical here, lads. Words like 'pure blood' and 'master race' aren't only going to flag the board to people who're interested in reading our rather boring blatherings, but they'll also signal to any rabid neo-Nazi psychos that we're ok with their specific brand of talk around here. Have the opinion on whether or not it's the same thing. No one's telling you you're not entitled to your own opinions. But I'd recommend avoiding terms that specifically will invite that sort in. I don't want that kind of person here. Pretty sure none of you lot do either.
There's plenty of terms that can be used in sensible conversation that don't draw in idiots that like to hide in white pointy sheets or wear red armbands in their down time. Just don't use terms that are accepted and preferred by the goose-step gang. That lot aren't intelligent enough to realise that you're not saying it the way they mean it. If you want to compare their behaviour to that of the government no one is going to stop you. I'd just highly recommend any language that a Proud Boy might be comfortable hearing. Those guys are an argument FOR eugenics, not against it!
Either that or better contraception. Six to one, half a dozen to the other.
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Post by frostbite on Jul 3, 2023 18:44:11 GMT 10
I get your point Stealth, but that term is the one used by the non vaxxed and has nothing to do with wannabe nazis. Those girly boy pretenders don’t have the patent on that word. Even the dumbest leghumper watching this forum would see the context in which it was used.
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Post by frostbite on Jul 3, 2023 18:48:08 GMT 10
The one that grates me most is how they (boomers) slide on the edge of fraud to hide assets and income so they can get benefits like the health care card. When asked why bother when most of them can easily self fund they respond that they payed tax all their life and its their right...then in the same sentence say millennials are entitled! I’m Gen X, and I’m entitled. I have to dispose of $1.5m to fit under the pension asset test, and I fully intend doing that. The filthy grubbyment has reached deep into my pocket my whole working life and I fully intend returning the favour. |
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Post by tactile on Jul 3, 2023 20:17:50 GMT 10
If it wasn't for the government you wouldn't of had a job...why dont you make the 1.5m work legitimately instead of hiding it...you'd make way more doing that then the scraps you'd get otherwise. Madness...
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Post by frostbite on Jul 3, 2023 20:37:01 GMT 10
I’m smarter than that. I will get it to work for me, tax free at a higher return than many other investments, and still qualify for the pension. I still have some insights after working 16 years on the inside.
oh, and the government stopped me getting the job I really wanted. I owe them nothing.
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Post by tactile on Jul 3, 2023 20:39:46 GMT 10
You think like a first generation immigrant...
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Post by frostbite on Jul 3, 2023 20:42:17 GMT 10
First generation immigrants built this country.
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Post by tactile on Jul 3, 2023 20:54:52 GMT 10
And then rip it off apparently...
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Post by frostbite on Jul 3, 2023 21:15:17 GMT 10
No, they just collect on their investment. Better the dividend stays here than sent to France for substandard subs or helicopters.
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Post by tactile on Jul 3, 2023 21:25:41 GMT 10
What ever makes you sleep at night I guess...
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Post by malewithatail on Jul 4, 2023 8:56:30 GMT 10
The Grubyment told me I wasn't allowed to work, nor drive any more, so I owe them nothing, and when I pointed out the fact that without being able to work, or drive, I couldn't support my family, they grudgingly gave me a pension, and it was grudgingly, so much paperwork I gave up and threw it all in Centerlinks lap telling them my befuddled brain couldn't work it out, they better sort it quickly. And......they did !
I worked in heavy industry at Port Kembla as an Electrical Engineer for 40 + years, paid all my tax, so owe them nothing.
Then working as an electrician in the automotive, local council and saw-milling industries, once again paying all my tax, so now its my turn.
Also recently found out that both my grandparents, dads parents, were of indigenous descent, always wondered why I was darker than the other boys at school, now I know where some of the teasing came from. Play the race card ? Don't tempt me !
Having a three-year supply of food doesn’t do you any good if someone can steal it because you cannot defend yourself.
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Post by Stealth on Jul 4, 2023 10:45:24 GMT 10
I get your point Stealth, but that term is the one used by the non vaxxed and has nothing to do with wannabe nazis. Those girly boy pretenders don’t have the patent on that word. Even the dumbest leghumper watching this forum would see the context in which it was used. The non-vaxed have been using it for five minutes in comparison to the master race club. It's a bit like saying "I call the Pacific ocean the Specific ocean, and lots of people that I know do, so that's what the majority of the population should call it because I say so". That's not how languages work. It takes decades to change the meaning of a term in collective consciousness. We're not there yet. In fairness, it's also rather offensive to those of us who became 'mudbloods' to continue to provide the freedoms that others take for granted, medical care that continued while you exercised those freedoms, or services that ensured that you still had access to all the amenities that you previously were able to take advantage of. You got to make your choice. The fact that some of us made our choice the way we did means that people like you could make yours. We didn't do it for that reason specifically, but you'd have to agree that it's a handy side-effect. It's not a case of one group being better than the other, and that's what that term implies. It feels a bit of a kick in the teeth to hear someone imply that you're 'sullied' because you wanted to make the best choice that you could for people as a whole. We might be stupid (in your opinion) but our hearts were in the right place and that alone deserves some modicum of respect, does it not? Even with people that I disagree with on a fundamental level on this forum, I still have respect for everyone here. I can't learn from different views if I refuse to hear them. But I also can't listen if they stop talking because they feel like they're not welcome. Using a term like pure blood not only makes people feel unwelcome but actively disallowed and denigrated. And I'd say the same thing if someone referred to antivaxers as 'filth bloods' because their blood can be contaminated with a disease that others are less likely to catch. I'm not saying that that's a term I would ever apply to unvaxed people! Just that using intentionally inflammatory terms like that when another term (like vaxed/unvaxed) will work, isn't really necessary in a space that is shared by both sides of the fence. And to ALL unvaxed on the board, I'd like to apologise if I've cracked a 'tin hat brigade' joke in the past in relation to vaccines. I've been thinking a lot about this while crafting this comment and I realised I've said it on occasion when discussing the topic. While I personally think it doesn't hit as hard as the nazi type references that's my own perspective and I recognise now that it could have been taken differently by someone that's had worse experiences with that term. I always meant from a joking or banter perspective, but typing this has brought me to the realisation that it may not have been taken in the way that I intended in the past. Hopefully that's not the case, but if it IS I unreservedly apologise for making you feel like you couldn't say what you thought or that you were being judged negatively for exercising your right to choose. When I see a mistake that I might have made, I try to fix it. I can get my points across without resorting to name calling, even if it's intended as a joke. My bad. We face enough negativity from the population as preppers in general. We don't need to be making it worse ourselves. And because I don't like dropping a cuddle puddle bomb without turning it into a mushroom cloud on the way out (I hate taking life TOO seriously), maybe we just let population issues fix themselves;  |
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Post by frostbite on Jul 4, 2023 12:03:36 GMT 10
I think we can agree to disagree, and I’ll still buy you a drink or invite you around my campfire.
I had no idea people associated that word with AH. I’m sure AH and his crew never used it, it’s not even Deutsche. Racial purity was a concept the most ardent follower embraced. My uncle, who was SS, wouldn’t talk to my mother because she was English. He wasn’t impressed that his brother, who fought for the reich, married an Englishwoman after being released from POW farm. However, vax status has no relevance to our racial purity, so I think any offence that term causes is just people overreacting.
As for the wannabe pretenders, they are irrelevant. They aren’t even Aryan, just a pathetic joke.
I don’t feel obliged to those who opted to take the shot. Their decision empowered the government to implement the greatest attack on our civil liberties since WW2. Had everyone said NO, the government would have backed down instantly, and all those services we take for granted continued anyway. Everything is travelling along nicely now without any mandates. We’re all living quite comfortably with the virus, without boosters, exposing the lies used to instil fear and compliance during the mandates.
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Post by tactile on Jul 4, 2023 12:50:08 GMT 10
The Grubyment told me I wasn't allowed to work, nor drive any more, so I owe them nothing, and when I pointed out the fact that without being able to work, or drive, I couldn't support my family, they grudgingly gave me a pension, and it was grudgingly, so much paperwork I gave up and threw it all in Centerlinks lap telling them my befuddled brain couldn't work it out, they better sort it quickly. And......they did ! I worked in heavy industry at Port Kembla as an Electrical Engineer for 40 + years, paid all my tax, so owe them nothing. Then working as an electrician in the automotive, local council and saw-milling industries, once again paying all my tax, so now its my turn. Also recently found out that both my grandparents, dads parents, were of indigenous descent, always wondered why I was darker than the other boys at school, now I know where some of the teasing came from. Play the race card ? Don't tempt me ! I dont get this owe them or owe me attitude. Your taxes are used to maintain the system we enjoy, if you dont like what they are doing get involved to change it and if you dont, then dont about it.
You dont have to 'play' the race card MWT, if you're entitled to an extra payment then take it, especially if it furthers your families quality of life. That's the rules and law (there's a difference) based system we enjoy.
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Post by frostbite on Jul 4, 2023 13:04:59 GMT 10
“Your taxes are used to maintain the system we enjoy”. Which includes access to welfare or pension payments to anybody that meets the eligibility criteria. All I’m doing is making sure I meet those criteria.
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