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Post by Stealth on May 20, 2024 19:00:35 GMT 10
To be honest I wouldn't worry too much about the 'martyr' part. It's a cultural respect thing to say that someone that's died has been martyred. A bit of a language glitch if you like, more often than not martyr isn't used the same way for them as it is in typical whitey western culture. They can and will use it the same way of course, but in this kind of situation it doesn't really imply that they think that someone murdered him or that there'll be any particular response. It could literally just be "This guy was super important to us, we're ultra sad he died but he's with Allah now so that makes him a martyr" if that makes sense.
It's a high term of respect for those who've died but it doesn't necessarily mean anything for them to refer to him as a martyr after his death. To be honest I'd be a bit more surprised if they didn't.
Definitely agree it's odd to travel together but then again that's from that same whitey western culture perspective. We wouldn't normally expect to see that, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't do it. I'm sure they won't anymore. It's probably been a salutary lesson for his close personal protection team who may or may not be dead for allowing their president to spud in like a dart.
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Post by Joey on May 20, 2024 19:26:19 GMT 10
Now watch the price of crude oil spike
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Post by spatial on May 20, 2024 19:28:59 GMT 10
To be honest I wouldn't worry too much about the 'martyr' part. It's a cultural respect thing to say that someone that's died has been martyred. A bit of a language glitch if you like, more often than not martyr isn't used the same way for them as it is in typical whitey western culture. They can and will use it the same way of course, but in this kind of situation it doesn't really imply that they think that someone murdered him or that there'll be any particular response. It could literally just be "This guy was super important to us, we're ultra sad he died but he's with Allah now so that makes him a martyr" if that makes sense. It's a high term of respect for those who've died but it doesn't necessarily mean anything for them to refer to him as a martyr after his death. To be honest I'd be a bit more surprised if they didn't. Definitely agree it's odd to travel together but then again that's from that same whitey western culture perspective. We wouldn't normally expect to see that, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't do it. I'm sure they won't anymore. It's probably been a salutary lesson for his close personal protection team who may or may not be dead for allowing their president to spud in like a dart. Yeah anyone who dies while serving the people could be a martyr. Still Many have expressed concerns over investigation of the crash. In South Africa the Muslim would not purchase insurance as that means a lack in faith that their God will protect them. Splitting the VIPs into different planes would be a lack of faith, it was related to Frostbites snide karma comment, there is a level of poor decision making.
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Post by Stealth on May 21, 2024 0:04:57 GMT 10
Good point spatial. I'm embarrassed to admit I hadn't considered that as a reason for them having an increased comfort with risk. If you honestly believe that sky fairies will save you if you're supposed to be saved you're probably not going to consider risk reduction as much as the average picnic basket. It's easy for us to make calls on what people are doing but religion always throws a spanner in the works because it defies logic for people who genuinely believe in their sky fairies. I'm a sky fairy person, but mine also have a sense of humour so I doubt they'd be mad at me for calling them that lmao. Truly believing in a fundamental truth like that probably would make one inclined to throw your fates to the wind. What will be will be after all.
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Post by malewithatail on May 21, 2024 16:37:41 GMT 10
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Post by spatial on May 21, 2024 17:36:06 GMT 10
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Post by spatial on May 21, 2024 17:38:09 GMT 10
It is just one of very many potential disasters, I am expecting financial crash worse than 1929 and US civil war on Trump election and assassination.
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Post by Stealth on May 21, 2024 18:28:25 GMT 10
Hal Turner is, to put it indelicately, an absolute nutter who makes shiz up every time he opens his mouth and applies absolutely NO effective analytical effort into his make believe stories. Perfect example. I spent not even five minutes and found multiple sources from various different countries of weather patterns in the local area over the crash site at the relevant time and date and what did I find? SO MUCH DATA. He is absolutely full of it. One particular source has a glitch or data-dump from that one source, and he freaks out and thinks that it's disappeared like a baby playing peekaboo with it's mother. What does he do when facebook glitches on him? Must have an absolute panic attack because he has nowhere to source his made up nonsense from. And the whole "Journalists use this source..." any journo worth their salt (or reputation) uses at minimum three sources to confirm their information. Three. One isn't available out of the thousands and thousands that could be used, but that means that someone's deleting data? That's... That's not how this works. That's not how ANY of this works. Note the time and date stamp at the bottom. That's just one of the multiple data sources I found in a brief moment of searching for historical data. There's wind gust, precipitation, pressure... All kinds of info which all reflect the same essential thing. It was foggy, gusty, and a bit trash to fly in. And I can assure you that even if cloud seeding were used, in the zoomed out view you can see a weather pattern that VERY clearly indicates that it's natural. I can't be bothered providing evidence against literally everything else he says. It's all there. You just have to spend two seconds looking for it, which obviously he's hoping his freaked out audience won't bother to do. He loves himself a fairytale, does that guy. He just doesn't seem to care whether it's even slightly believable.
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Post by frostbite on May 21, 2024 18:41:42 GMT 10
How will a prepper survive when he/she hits the panic button every time an idiot screams wolf? An effective bull$hit meter should be a core prep.
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Post by Stealth on May 22, 2024 10:07:59 GMT 10
Well in fairness we have to check our sceptical biases too. My automatic bias is "If you can't find the data it's opinion, not fact'. Sometimes opinion is all you can achieve because there just isn't enough data to make a solid assessment. And we all know that there are situations where the data is intentionally hidden so it can be hard to find the facts. Or you don't have the expertise in the field to make the right call on the basis of the information you DO have. Long story short, nothing is guaranteed.
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Post by malewithatail on May 23, 2024 10:33:16 GMT 10
substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F76205202-273d-4aee-a5be-baaf9bb5872b_1669x949.jpeg?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email good summary A BBSers telephone bill knows no bounds....
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Post by bug on May 23, 2024 14:11:06 GMT 10
The below link gives evidence that is anecdotal at best, but it's pretty clear that Victoria is around 6-12 months into an undeclared recession. I've seen many of the same things that are being posted by others, and in an industry that is allegedly still booming. Unusual for the very woke and rusted-on ALP reddit users in Melbourne, statements that excessive immigration is swamping the jobs market for locals are going unopposed. I have tried to hire nationally recently and practically every (non-overseas) candidate was applying from Melbourne.
In a nutshell, the Vic government: - Went totally overboard during medical Apartheid, tanking the economy and causing a subsequent interstate exodus; - Borrowed massively at a time when interest rates were about to rise; - Spent eye-watering sums of money during a time of construction labour shortages, seeing huge project blowouts; - Ignored it's own independent experts an began suburban rail loop with no planning, pre-works, easements etc. that you must do in the years leading up to a major infrastructure project; - Let the CFMEU further tighten its stranglehold on building sites; - Didn't have an effective opposition due to the Vic Libs being a shambles.
The ALP really should have lost the last election, but with no real alternative they got back even with a 5% swing against them. We are now seeing the fallout from this and it's not good for Victorians. Completely out of character, the feds have started subsidising the Vic budget in a way that I have never seen them do, but it's pissing on a bonfire at this stage.
Will be intersting to see if/how badly the other states are affected.
https://www.reddit.com/r/melbourne/comments/1cx3bmm/the_job_market_here_is_a_deadset_joke_atm/
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Post by malewithatail on May 23, 2024 15:03:43 GMT 10
I cant help wondering if the labour shortage is due to the sudden death.
Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.
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Post by bug on May 23, 2024 17:16:17 GMT 10
For a while, definitely linked. Excess death rate, construction workers in so short supply that employers blatantly ignoring the apartheid rules.
All over now though. Even some parts of construction are dying off.
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Post by Joey on May 23, 2024 18:34:13 GMT 10
Qld was in the same boat at the last election, Labor got back in because the LNP couldn't organise a chook raffle at the time and had zero direction from the leader. And now we are stuck spending billions for the Olympic games that nobody in the state wants because it means that all the state taxes raised will be spent on frivolous sports infrastructure in the SEQ corner instead of health, roads and education where it is desperately needed everywhere outside of the SEQ.
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Post by frostbite on May 23, 2024 19:00:52 GMT 10
QLD and VIC are screwed because their voters are too stupid to look outside the two big parties. Same with WA. They deserve everything they get. If all those stupid voters elected the Lib Democrats are big Clive then the situation would be a lot different.
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Post by malewithatail on May 24, 2024 8:15:05 GMT 10
What is your best parking spot revenge? An elderly woman driving a big Cadillac was waiting for a parking space at the mall. As a car pulled out of the space, a twenty something man driving a brand new shiny Corvette pulled in, stealing it from the elderly woman. The woman rolled down her window and politely advised the man that she had been waiting for the parking space. As he locked his car he flippantly said to her, “That’s what you can do when you’re young and sassy.” The woman proceeded to back up a few feet and then drove forward gunning the accelerator to ram the Corvette. Then she backed up and gunned it again to smash the Corvette again. As the young man’s mouth dropped he yelled at her, “What are you doing.” She responded, “That’s what you can do when you’re old and rich!”
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Post by bug on May 24, 2024 10:49:06 GMT 10
At least Qld looks certain to get rid of the ALP at the next election. Transport in the state is a joke. 20 minutes north of Brisbane, the rail network drops to single track narrow-gauge. This is a rail network that continues for another 1500km to Cairns. So industry ends up relying on road freight instead, causing a constant requirement for works on the Bruce hwy, which never gets 'de-congested'. It is madness.
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Post by frostbite on May 24, 2024 14:35:56 GMT 10
The electorate I live in has been Labor forever. Some elections the Libs don’t bother to field a candidate. Labor takes us for granted, Libs don’t waste money on the electorate. This is why we can’t even get an on-ramp onto the new bypass. If only the moron voters had a brain and voted a minor party in, even if only as a protest, then the two big parties would take notice and change. But as 95% of Aussies are clinically brain dead I can’t see this ever happening.
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Post by Beno on May 24, 2024 16:08:06 GMT 10
the 2 party preferred system is an amazingly obvious con but continues to be offered up as democracy. We deserve what we get. I believe donkey votes were pretty high last election, a missed opportunity i reckon.
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