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Post by shinester on Sept 28, 2015 19:45:11 GMT 10
I always wanted to own a tank You and me both.
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Post by shinester on Sept 28, 2015 18:47:51 GMT 10
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Post by shinester on Sept 28, 2015 8:22:52 GMT 10
He's great! Another thing to note, it was his company [and also have Southernprepper1] 'practical preppers' who were the advisers and scorers in 'Doomsday Preppers'.
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Post by shinester on Sept 28, 2015 8:17:12 GMT 10
The 3g/day is based on total sodium [Men 460-920 mg/day, Women 460-920 mg/day] intake, not just added salt ha ha. I'll also revise my number as it should be about 1-2g, looking at the RDI again, serves me right for pulling numbers from my head. The science to and fros on the connection with salt and heart disease and there's a lot of bad studies are often based on extreme levels of salt intake such as in rats with the equivalent of 500g of salt 'a day'. Salt is a necessary part of our diet and it's also potentially dangerous, as is drinking too much water for that matter. That is, moderation is key. - sourceWe get it through foods of course too and I store salt for flavor enhancement too, which is rather good at and unlike other herbs and spices it lasts forever. I would agree bud, looking at the preserving of food with salt, you'd need a lot of salt to be doing it that way and it would be a good idea for both taste and to keep your sodium intake to moderate levels to rinse in fresh water as described in the salted pork.
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Post by shinester on Sept 26, 2015 16:36:38 GMT 10
Check the legality of having batteries on a grid interactive system as I know that batteries are not installed as standard so that when the grid does go down the maintenance workers know that there is no charge in the lines. I have queried the practicality of having panels on a roof and when the grid does go down none of the power being produced in the daytime can be used to run items in the house. If we were grid interactive I would have the standard setup and also a small setup that could be used times of mains power outages. Usually the inverters that can provide off grid power have a switch so you can use the power directly from the panels. If it were a major issue, I'd just have a battery bank connected to a trickle charger/car charger to keep it topped up and then hook that up to a separate inverter. I already do have such a system on a normally powered house [with 300W of panels if need be to replenish]
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Post by shinester on Sept 26, 2015 9:54:48 GMT 10
On the solar system, my longer term plans are having a solar system that is grid tied, with an option to use the power if the grid is down and only a small battery backup [200Amph or so] for night time use for items such as lighting to keep costs down. This way I can have enough power during the day to do most things that need to be done that require more power, such as washing, power tools etc, yet still have some power at night for lighting. There's obvious downsides, such as a lack of available power at night and having to be quite mindful of that though it allows me to have the system earlier.
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Post by shinester on Sept 26, 2015 9:46:24 GMT 10
In so much as there's a definite socialist bent, I enjoyed the series immensely, a great thought on what people might have to deal with.
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Post by shinester on Sept 26, 2015 9:45:14 GMT 10
All laws are just dots on a piece of paper until a living, breathing person enforces them. What intrigues me is why so many people are willing to enforce these laws. Why are so many cops so willing to violate people's rights? Well the real answer is their childhood history, though it would be time consuming to get someone to understand competently how true that is without a significant amount of explanation. The book, "The Orgin of Child Abuse in War" - Lloyd Demaus [an anthropologist] is a good start, showing great connections between behavior and childhood history and the at the same time the awful history humans have had until very recently [and is still highly prevalent in war torn areas of the world]. Basically it's being in the 'alter' of their abuse, aka identifying with the abuse they received and expressing that in their actions. Much like the bully who has been bullied or the rapist who has been raped. Some police [this comes from an ex member] enjoy for instance the humiliation and discomfort of people being handed fines. So cops being willing to violate people's rights is more to do with their emotional instability than anything else. The job itself 'can' attract those kinds of people and they can even seem very normal else wise, and 'pop' into those alters [parts] of themselves when in that role. We see this all of the time in people who kind of 'snap' into something else, be it in a rage or whatever.
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Post by shinester on Sept 26, 2015 9:25:21 GMT 10
One of the issues I have with our pigs sheep chickens etc is feed If shtf my last stop is a bulk buy of stock feed but this will not last forever How will you feed your large number of birds without commercial feeds? Great question.
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Post by shinester on Sept 24, 2015 12:54:37 GMT 10
First thing, the basics of survival. 3 hours without shelter, 3 days without water, 3 weeks without food.
So, shelter, whatever it is, making some kind of shelter, be it old car, made from trees/bush/mud, whatever. This includes some kind of fire, though it might be tricky, really depends on where I am and what I have. Starting fire 'without' flint/matches is really really hard work. Though I'm sure I'd get there eventually, knowing the principles and having done it before.
From here doing some scouting around, collecting any kind of resources and knowing where I might find more would be both part of where we set up and after we set up.
Water. Potentially a tricky one, again depends on location and available resources.
Food - even trickier than water and potentially a diminishing resource as we might be living only on body fat for a bit and unless available locally the best plan might be to get somewhere else, again it depends on the situation.
Exchanging skills/work for food/shelter/water might be a good plan and depending on the circumstances of our capture, it might indeed be worth returning, which would in of itself take basic resources from above. I do have a couple of small cache's and options for locations in which to go, so this would probably be the main plan. It wouldn't be a final solution, it might only buy us a couple of weeks, though it would give us time. Time in survival gives us more options and more time to find a better and more perminent solution.
I doubt it would be worth returning if looters have come through.
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If looters have got close enough to come through and captured me and my family without being noticed or giving us time and warning enough to get out or fight them off gorilla or at my doorstep [last bastion], then really it's way too late.
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Post by shinester on Sept 24, 2015 12:09:40 GMT 10
Yeah good to see you back Dr. Gaz
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Post by shinester on Sept 23, 2015 2:07:31 GMT 10
To save on heating means not loosing heat. Aka good insulation. Another perspective is to use the heat to warm up a mass, that radiates that heat. Some ways of cutting costs also might be more efficient use of timber, particularly if you have access nearby. Rocket stoves are fairly easy to make and inexpensive.
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Post by shinester on Sept 21, 2015 18:15:41 GMT 10
I can see the potential for precious metals, history is a good indicator of the future and their worth has continued through much of human civilization. They would eventually have value again, as they have done over and over again, no matter what the situation.
Having said that, I would think a kgs of pool shock might be tradable, considering 1g = 1000L of drinking water and doesn't have the issues that higher value items might present.
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Post by shinester on Sept 21, 2015 18:08:33 GMT 10
Yeah, I've since seen videos of guys ripping off olives [and badly pressing them] from olive trees planted all around Northcote. I guess the question I have [and I can ask a nursery person really] is how long before they fruit as I had always thought that they took quite a while to establish. Wondering if I ought to get them now in tubs or when I move to the homestead in a few years.
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Post by shinester on Sept 20, 2015 12:47:22 GMT 10
Peter1942, would you mind sharing your experience with growing olives [and pressing], I've done a bit of initial research into what that entails and whilst I don't have a permanent place for them yet, I'm thinking about potting them and growing some up to be close to fruiting age when I do get that prepper place/homestead that is planned for. Looks like it's possible in my climate [they're growing in the street in parts of melbourne!]
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Post by shinester on Sept 20, 2015 6:35:45 GMT 10
Oil is starting to go rancid [oxidize] when it's first made. Of course we can't smell it at first, as there's hardly any in it. As more oxygen binds with it, it gets worse and a little more smell comes to it. When you heat or expose oils to sunlight it speeds up the oxidization rate. Rancid oil tastes bad, fairly simply mostly due to the build up of peroxides in it and it will smell a little bit like hydrogen peroxide consequently. Rancid oil won't harm you in the short term, though with the increased free radicals you might put yourself at higher risk of disease later on. For a prepper, what that means if you need the energy to keep you alive and survive, hold your nose and eat lots of green leafy veggies as you can to try to counteract what you did in the emergency www.australianolives.com.au/assets/files/pdfs/Media/Health%20Effects%20of%20Rancid%20Oils.pdf
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Post by shinester on Sept 18, 2015 10:00:31 GMT 10
Indeed. They used to have a trade/job called 'petresman' [or petersman] and a law that floors had to be made of dirt, not stone. What they would do is the petresman would come around and take off the top layer of dirt from your floor since it contained concentrated and dried pee [and the nitrogen based chemicals] and then use this and create gun powder.
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Post by shinester on Sept 17, 2015 1:28:35 GMT 10
I'm similar to Pete, I've got plenty of normal salt, many years worth in fact [we need 3g/day aka 1kg/year from our diet] and I have a bag of pool salt as 'backup' for preserving. Since most salt comes from 2 sources, mines or evaporation ponds, I'm hardly concerned about issues with the salt whatever it's source, provided it's not got additives. The lack of iodine might be an issue longer term. In our current situation, we have more than enough salt added for flavor in our foods, this might not be the case if things were austere and it's fairly essential in our diet.
Rather loving that channel, lots of really great stuff on it.
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Post by shinester on Sept 15, 2015 9:02:45 GMT 10
Pool salt is salt minus the iodine, 25kg bags are really cheap [$8 last time I looked]
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Post by shinester on Sept 15, 2015 9:01:15 GMT 10
I keep 2 x 4L cold pressed olive oils, one being used and one full and we use that for our normal cooking. I also have about 4kg of ghee which is reported [no science to it unfortunately] to last quite a long time unopened. Fats/oils are my trickiest prep, particularly because they're an essential part of our diet and I've yet to find a good solution. I did get a hand vacuum pump for mason jars which I'm hoping will extend the life of oils by reducing the oxygen content and therefore oxidation [going rancid]
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