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Post by shinester on Sept 12, 2015 6:20:15 GMT 10
I'm hardly a financial expert, seems like an interesting and local focus perspective.
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Post by shinester on Sept 12, 2015 6:15:02 GMT 10
They would start flocking to the country in gigantic waves if they were desperate enough me thinks.
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Post by shinester on Sept 12, 2015 2:25:37 GMT 10
For the unsophisticated.
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Post by shinester on Sept 12, 2015 2:22:43 GMT 10
Nice vid nobody. I hadn't thought of using candles like that.
I think if you're doing that next to a window that's open it wouldn't be too much of an issue with carbon monoxide. Portable Gas stoves or even a bbq in your kitchen [ha] are perhaps a little more efficient and if they've got a blue flame, shouldn't be any worse than town-gas for CO.
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Post by shinester on Sept 9, 2015 8:58:04 GMT 10
Hoopy, history showed us that in times such as the Great Depression, game was hunted extensively, heavily depopulating such sources of food. Our population levels have advanced about 3 times the levels of that era and of course that's balanced with the low numbers of people who know and are good at collecting such sources these days. I would be weary of such sources of food alone, though of course a great supplement. As you're probably hinting at, the meat is important for protein and fats and the veggies for vitamins and carbs. A variety. ---------- In terms of food collapse, I think if such an event were to happen, it would be a long drawn out and potentially violent situation for those who are even suspected of having food. If you're not getting thin with everyone else, not playing the 'grey man' then I would imagine that you'll absolutely be targeted and raided by mobs of people. Whilst I have a lot of food, I plan on asking for it and eat very little for a while to keep up this rouse. Perhaps I return an equivalent to said people at a later date as thanks, perhaps I don't depending on the situation. Obviously isolation or an organised and protected community would be the ideal situation
We can look to places in more modern times such as Cuba in the 'special time' when fuel was cut and 'everyone' started growing their own veggies. We can look at the Bosnia crisis where Selco talks about how food was possible, thanks it seems to humanitarian help from the UN, though everyone got very thin in the middle of siege, he talks about eating grass and so on. We can look to the Stalingrad siege where people ate 'anything', so poisonous bulbs and even reports of cannibalism. We can look at the starvation studies and take some evaluations on how people respond, people going nuts [one guy chopped off fingers], and they weren't even on very low energy, they were just burning more than they were given and no doubt started far leaner than the average Australian.
I would guess that starvation would start to do permanent harm to the lean after 3 weeks, deaths would soon follow and the fattest might last a very long time on their storage, such as the guy who ate almost nothing [salts/yeast/vitamins] whilst monitored by doctors for a year in the 60s.
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Post by shinester on Sept 9, 2015 0:44:29 GMT 10
I agree with most of what has been put up. I would add that I would hurry out and hire some bigger equipment that I don't have like a bob cat or small excavator as I would not have to return it and I have the fuels already. I would have to be quick but I reckon I could at a minimum a large rotary hoe and post hole borer Ha... that would be an amazing grab
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Post by shinester on Sept 9, 2015 0:41:22 GMT 10
Nice one, thanks for the heads up. Curious, what would you do with the salty bore? I presume going the distilling method would be your preference?
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Post by shinester on Sept 8, 2015 22:23:20 GMT 10
Well I could talk for ever about the reasons why this 'nanny' state exists. So I'll try to keep it brief. In simple terms because people haven't learned to be adults, that is take responsibility for their actions. When people do the wrong thing in society, we're making EVERYONE else responsible for that person's actions, aka crazy Tasmanian. Instead of asking, how did he get like this? Violence in society has it's orgins deep within childhood, it's been well demonstrated and founded in science. A good round up of that with historical information pertaining to this subject is psychohistory.com/books/the-origins-of-war-in-child-abuse/ So we're not bringing the focus to where it belongs, instead we're reacting to the problems, lashing out like a parent would and punishing all, much like they do at school [again another example of it]. It's quite erroneous and irrelevant, punishments are applicable, punishing the innocent, irrational.
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Post by shinester on Sept 8, 2015 21:54:33 GMT 10
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Post by shinester on Sept 7, 2015 14:12:43 GMT 10
Another reason to prep!
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Post by shinester on Sept 2, 2015 16:24:39 GMT 10
3 hrs?
Well depends on the situation, if it's possible getting some supplies, every little bit would help, typically from unusual suppliers, such as grain stores, hardware stores, with things in mind such as LPG and food stuffs. If it's 'hectic' I wouldn't bother and rather instead I'd start the extra fortification of home.
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Post by shinester on Aug 31, 2015 16:43:50 GMT 10
Satellites I would imagine would be up there for decades, assuming there's no warfare on communications in space [there's plenty of anti-satellite weapons]. The trouble wouldn't be getting the signal to the satellite and the satellite would then send that signal to earth, the trouble would be what happens with that signal once it hits the earth again. The telephone exchanges would have to be up and running and whilst they 'do' have significant redundancy [at least in land lines] and battery backups, it's backup is in hours not days or months. I'm not sure if you could send satellite phone to satellite phone without the exchange though I suspect not.
Certainly in most disaster situations that aren't catastrophic and national or global, it's a great idea, would be an excellent tool for hiking and such.
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Post by shinester on Aug 29, 2015 2:54:12 GMT 10
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Post by shinester on Aug 28, 2015 12:11:25 GMT 10
You mean Redback'not'trading? [don't seem to be trading] As I've mentioned before, the jar supply place in Cheltenham told me that they're getting a shipment in of tattler lids in sometime soon and I just reuse the standard ball lids with success.
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Post by shinester on Aug 28, 2015 4:25:05 GMT 10
I was more talking about consumer products easily available in other countries that are hard to find or get into aus, although they are legal here. However it seems it's now turned into 'what would you wish for?' so you can have your crew served weapons... I'll change my ZEV drop in kit for a select fire Draco pistol, HK416, Remington 870, Glock 19, and a motherf'ing m107 barrett .50BMG Ha, yeah, something like 3x Ma Deuce [M2s] and spare barrels, parts, with 250,000 rounds, perhaps Mark19s,.. oh heck, M1 Abrams including spares... to be sure As far as I understand it, you can get .50BMG, if you join a military rifle club in Vic. You can also get a little under in caliber without the membership if you so choose. Pretty expensive to shoot. I've seen the sleeves on ebay locally a while back, they weren't rifled. There's also THIS on abused guns. Might be worth a call to the relevant people as I can't see any regulation that would prohibit bringing them in anyhow. --- In terms of what I want but can't get, well I'd like something a little left field, a mobile phone tower that would cover a town, along with the portable tower about $10k including solar set up. There are other options, though that's for a key-turn, no fuss, as used in remote towns in far away places. To my mind, the perfect communication tool for a country town, everyone already has a phone. We have very strict laws on communications, so even if I had the money, it isn't going to happen. Neighbors/street/town who are into prepping. .303 used brass at a reasonable rate .357 used brass at a reasonable rate Powder and primers, ammo at the prices that the yanks pay, aka about half of what we pay.
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Post by shinester on Aug 27, 2015 23:30:44 GMT 10
Oh if it were legal and I had the spare cash I would certainly have a few of crew served weapons ha ha.
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Post by shinester on Aug 27, 2015 23:29:14 GMT 10
My thoughts;
- 12Ah SLA - 72Wh of usable power. Would do for charging phones, 4-7 times, a laptop for a couple of hours or a radio a few times. - Unknown solar panel size, I would guess at about 1-2W judging by the size. Ideally this should be much bigger as it would charge 3Wh-6Wh/day, compare that with the usable power. - useful in utility and a single package and you don't have to do much.
For the money, I would argue that getting a 40W panel ($60), an 300W inverter ($10), a 10A regulator ($10) and a second hand AGM 75Ah battery [$60], some wire and perhaps a box to put the inverter and regulator in, if you're able to put it together.
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Post by shinester on Aug 26, 2015 23:30:47 GMT 10
I love China uncensored... so good, so good.
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Post by shinester on Aug 26, 2015 15:56:37 GMT 10
Ahh, communism. This is what happens if you defend your home in china. There wouldn't be any kind of corruption either in land development in that kind of system right? ----------------- It's worth noting that we don't live in a world of the free market in any real sense. That is governments/central planning [and private organizations namely the fed] prop-up shares, sell bonds etc, completely distorting the 'actual' market in so many ways nobody actually knows where the market is at. So, a correction is inevitable. Obviously the Chinese have done it to a more extreme level, thinking that they magically know what it is that everyone wants. This is the biggest issue with the whole mess, a few people claiming [and most of us believing it] that somehow they know what they're doing. They simple can't because market demand isn't possible to predict and if you buy 1000 left gumboots, you ought to be stuck with selling them off, not as what has happened here. In particular it's the bail out of the banks that is of greatest concern, some should have gone bust a long time ago, there would have been plenty not doing stupid stuff and of course the way it is now, everyone's being stupid because that's how the market has been set up by the powers that be. When it falls apart, of course capitalism will be blamed, but the reality is that central planning is socialism/fascism and the market has been screwed with for too long. The reset, I hope is just a gentle one, though I can't see how it won't eventuate [perhaps not this time] though some time in the future.
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Post by shinester on Aug 26, 2015 13:56:50 GMT 10
Whilst he takes zero care to the aesthetics, [to which is a problem for it's promotion], his structures have stood the test of time and water for many many decades. His focus is on cheap, resilience. He's got some great ideas that I hadn't considered, such as working with the slope, not against it, carefully tailoring working with water and including as much light as possible [remember it's underground!] and he puts out a book and video series that's floating around *cough* the internet to which I found incredibly interesting. I think his ideas combined with a chainsaw mill could get you something very well sheltered for little. Making it pleasing to the eye, not a big deal once you've got the main structure in place. Of course passing building inspection might be tricky as usual for your 'fire shelter' / 'wine cellar' if you went that route.
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