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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2013 23:15:32 GMT 10
Hey Guys,
I guess this thread is a bit unorthodox, but I have researched gear for quite a long time and was wondering if anybody had any initial questions about different types of gear? Maybe your interested in a specific item, but are undecided on what one to get?
I may of help, and even others. So feel free to voice any questions here.
Ryan
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Post by remnantprep on Nov 2, 2013 8:35:43 GMT 10
Would like to get a really great all purpose coat or jacket. Waterproof of course and lots of pockets also lightweight but warm. Any ideas?
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Post by Big Ted on Nov 2, 2013 10:11:51 GMT 10
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Post by Big Ted on Nov 2, 2013 10:14:36 GMT 10
Kakadu is the shop. Just came to me.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2013 14:47:49 GMT 10
That bloody outdoor camping / hiking store in Aus, I cant remember the name of it, sell this brand and this jacket and it's somewhere in the vicinity of 350 dollars. They're Robbers and I will NEVER buy from them again. As if you would support Australian business when it blatantly hikes up its product prices well over RRP. Agreed. Hiking stores would easily mark up their products by at least 80%. Jackets really aren't my forte. I have a Marmot Minimalist. Again, in the ball park of around $350. I quite like it. I frequently use this website to look for gear. They basically do reviews of the best gear available: www.outdoorgearlab.com/clothing-womensHope it's some help, Rem. Ryan
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Post by remnantprep on Nov 2, 2013 18:28:00 GMT 10
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Post by Big Ted on Nov 2, 2013 19:27:08 GMT 10
Absolutely Rem Good choice! I'm a big fan of the Tan gear myself!
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Post by alex on Nov 8, 2013 22:52:23 GMT 10
I use an old 60s NATO cold climate jacket works for me.
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Post by Juz on Nov 17, 2013 15:10:25 GMT 10
I am looking for a good sturdy pack as a foundation of my BOB I cannot afford to spend a small fortune any recommendations and where I can get it? Currently using a molle type pack off eBay but it not what id like to stake my life on.
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Post by Big Ted on Nov 17, 2013 16:26:54 GMT 10
What exactly is wrong with the pack that you have now? Not comfortable? Too small? Too big? Not enough pockets or too many pockets? You need to begin with exactly what are you going to put in this pack. Do not start out with a bag only and then try to fill it. start with your inventory of gear that you require to be carried and this will tell how many litres you need size wise, whether or not you will need a carry frame ( Alice - hiking ) whatever and of course whether or not colour or camoflage is an important thing for you. TAS & TAG both make brilliant bags suitable for a BOB. Land 125 is also a great pack for a BOB. 511 the list goes on, There are that many different brand bags that are fit for this type of thing it's not funny. If you're building something that you want to suit for a few days than you're going to need something with some decent space but need to consider how strong you are and what you can actually comfortably carry on your person weight wise. If you have a weight in mind from the inventory you have compiled than also consider that if you utilise a pack with a frame and kidney belt than you're going to be able to carry 30 kg in this far easier than you would in a bag without these two carry aids. I used to carry 40 plus kilograms of gear many years ago with Shit packs for Km's upon Km's for weeks on end and afterwards I was buggered for weeks recovering from uneven strain on shoulders and high weight etc. With packs in the military these days, carrying 40 kgs is a dream compared to what it was thanks to good designs. All the weight is low and there are comfy pads and belts, frames etc. Here is a fantastic TAG pack that I have two of, one bought, one issued. www.opticsplanet.com/tag-mountain-ruck-lg-molle-pack.htmlThey hold a hell of a lot and are very comfortable and blend in quite well with most surroundings even in urban environments. I use mine overseas regularly as a travel pack and only really take out the compressed flame sources and weapons for the flights. You can put as little or as much as you want in these packs and still adjust them so they don't look like a full top the brim about to pop bag or a floppy piece of material getting blown about in the wind with a person attached to it. LoL Caribee also make a great bag, plenty to choose from with compartments for your farter and wet gear and clothing, cooking gear etc. Start with your list mate, trust me! This is the beginning of working out the other options you need to choose! I say again, make an inventory of everything that you want this bag to carry and give it all an approx weight! Not only can you then work out everything else as far as bag choice goes but you now have an up to date gear specific itemised list of absolutely everything you have. Once you use it, you can make a mark next to it and then know that you need to replenish the expended item! Good luck.
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Post by Juz on Nov 18, 2013 8:08:53 GMT 10
Great advice thanks, my pack at the moment is cheap and doesn't seem like it would hold up to well if I needed to use it for a prolonged time and is really uncomfortable, I am definitely going to go over my list before I purchase a new pack as you advised as I am still working on what to pack as well I am looking to end up with as close to bulletproof for my needs as I can on my budget and then upgrade as I can. Checked out your link and those TAG packs do look nice. Id like to cover all my bases best I can with my list but don't want to carry around a tonne so my inventory is going to be my top priority, I have a lot of gear already that I have used for years hiking camping and hunting that I trust but some gear is getting on and others are to heavy or not practical for a BOB, my focus is on gear that is multifunctional and having redundancy in as many ways as I can. I have also considered a vest type setup to go with my pack with my absolute essentials in it on the chance I might have to ditch my pack as a last resort.
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Post by Big Ted on Nov 18, 2013 11:32:08 GMT 10
Hmmmmmmmmmm.....I have had quite a bit of experience wearing chest rigs, chest webbing and or body armour / plate carriers that carry plenty of gear as well as ballistic plates and shrapnel vests. With the Armour and all the gear that you jam in them they can get bloody heavy, but the armour I guess is'nt going to be an issue for you so you will be able to get quite a bit of kit in them depending on your pouches you attach, without getting ridiculously cumbersome. Plenty to choose from, welcome to Pandoras box! LoL So many options for this type of setup.
If you're feeling that way about your current bag I reckon piss it off & after doing your inventory get yourself a good quality bag with a decent warranty. That TAG pack that I showed you actualy has a life long warranty on it so there is no question as to it's quality. I know it looks enormous but its actualy very manageable and not intrusive for a walk through the bush and also feels at home walking through the international terminal at the airport. Sounds as though you are on the right track with what you feel you need and want so good luck with it matey.
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Post by Nex Socius on Nov 20, 2013 14:40:54 GMT 10
I'd like to bury some supply caches in a few locations. I'm thinking food rations, water, medical, and basic stuff like fire starter etc. Can you suggest a suitable storage container that will protect these items and not perish with the goods?
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Post by Big Ted on Nov 20, 2013 15:26:43 GMT 10
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Post by Nex Socius on Nov 20, 2013 19:07:29 GMT 10
Thanks, these are perfect. I always like to have a plan B. if SHTF and I'm unable to grab my gear, I'll have 1 or 2 safe backup locations
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2013 22:51:08 GMT 10
I'd like to bury some supply caches in a few locations. I'm thinking food rations, water, medical, and basic stuff like fire starter etc. Can you suggest a suitable storage container that will protect these items and not perish with the goods? I think the best option is to make your own caches, and can do this with pvc tubing. I had some information on making them, but have since forgotten it. I do intend on making a few pvc tube caches soon though.
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Post by Big Ted on Nov 21, 2013 0:27:55 GMT 10
What sort of things are you boys planning on stashing and if it's not weapons or ammo or something similar that could be taken from the civilian populace in the future, than why bury it?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2013 9:21:03 GMT 10
What sort of things are you boys planning on stashing and if it's not weapons or ammo or something similar that could be taken from the civilian populace in the future, than why bury it? Good question. A lot of people bury caches on the way to their BOL, just in case they can't reach their BOL by their primary mode of transport. If the walk takes longer than a few days, then chances are you may not have enough equipment in your BOB to sustain such a journey. That's why a lot of people will bury water, food, clothing, shelter, communication, etc, along the way.
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Post by Big Ted on Nov 21, 2013 11:30:58 GMT 10
God you would have to pick a good location to bury such a thing! Like I said I understand weapons & Ammo & things that "The Man" would not want its citizens to have, but for that I would be thinking it would be safer and more practical to bury such a thing on your own land yeh? Having said that, that is a risk as well. In Timor in 2006 we smashed in to Reinado Alfredos home and ripped up his floor with a drill breaker and explosives to get a cache of over 45 Glocks, copius amounts of HE grenades, some 30 odd AK47's and even a few Bushmaster AR15 type weapons.
Don't get me wrong, the concept of this is not foreign to me at all and I believe that this type of thing is actively on a lot of minds, so I am very interested to know if any people have actually taken this from theory to practical and if so, is it on private or crown land?? (I am not asking anybody for the location of where they have buried it or when, just wanting to know if anything more than talk on this matter has occurred )
There must be a significant risk of losing one's gear, the trespass factor, (crown & private land) and of course just actually having the privacy to dig one's hole and fill it in with a suitable camouflage and concealment if in a populated area. I have not done it myself, but am interested and open to the idea if it proves a worthy task.
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Post by remnantprep on Nov 21, 2013 12:45:31 GMT 10
Yeah, I'm interested as well!
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