Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2013 13:38:16 GMT 10
You can make PVC caches for around $20-30. Nothing too crazy. Then you will dig, bury it, and record the coordinates or location via landmarks. What you put in the caches is up to you. You don't have to put expensive gear, as the chances of losing it is high, as nate has mentioned.
The easiest way to bury caches is to work out routes you may need to travel, and then work out where you think you would need supply drops.
|
|
Big Ted
Senior Member
SO TIRED
Posts: 849
Likes: 807
|
Post by Big Ted on Nov 21, 2013 15:39:36 GMT 10
Yep sure thing.
Ryan, do you have a cache?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2013 21:31:46 GMT 10
Yep sure thing. Ryan, do you have a cache? Not currently, mate. Barely even have a BOL. Pretty lazy in my preps haha Dad's looking at GPS devices at the moment, so once I can accurately pinpoint coordinates I might start making a few caches with basic items.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2013 23:03:00 GMT 10
If you are going to bury something, make sure the items are sealed in Mylar bags. This makes them air and water tight! You can buy plastic barrels that have had pickles, or olives in them, they are 200lt and if you silicon the cover lid and put the top ring on it becomes water tight! About $40.00 each (cleaned)
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2013 23:08:30 GMT 10
I'd like to bury some supply caches in a few locations. I'm thinking food rations, water, medical, and basic stuff like fire starter etc. Can you suggest a suitable storage container that will protect these items and not perish with the goods? I think the best option is to make your own caches, and can do this with pvc tubing. I had some information on making them, but have since forgotten it. I do intend on making a few pvc tube caches soon though. To make a PVC Tube Cache, you choose the size pipe you want and then buy matching caps! Make sure you use PVC cleaning fluid and then the PVC glue to secure the caps! Don't use a screw cap as these will leak! And to open you will need a saw, hack saw or saw chain! They can be resealed but you will need a new cap!
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2013 10:04:20 GMT 10
I've definitely seen people glue a solid cap to one end, and had a screw adapter glued to the other end. If you do protect everything, then shouldn't be too much of a problem. Saves you having to carry a saw with you, and you can re-seal it after if need be.
Otherwise, like you said, can find the food-grade buckets. I know on eBay you can get them for as cheap as $20!
|
|
|
Post by SA Hunter on Jan 3, 2014 21:41:12 GMT 10
Yep sure thing. Ryan, do you have a cache? Not currently, mate. Barely even have a BOL. Pretty lazy in my preps haha Dad's looking at GPS devices at the moment, so once I can accurately pinpoint coordinates I might start making a few caches with basic items. If the shtf, chances are your gps may not work - do you have a plan B and C to locate your stash? Just being the devils advocate here - plan A may not always work.
|
|
Jason
Senior Member
APF Gold Member
Posts: 644
Likes: 576
|
Post by Jason on Jan 4, 2014 11:13:49 GMT 10
Best advice I have heard about burying caches is don't put in anything that you cant afford to lose. If you are putting it on crown land, or another persons property there is a real chance that it will be found and/or damaged. Even on your own property unless you triple seal (ziploc bags, shrink wrap, water proof cases, PVC pipes sealed with silicon etc) your cache it could end up full of water with the contents basically useless. I've done a lot of geocaching with the kids and we have come across many caches that have been damaged by shredders/graders/ploughs or full of condensation and water and the contents are ruined. As for what goes into a cache that is dependant on what you want it for? Is it going to be a resupply cache half way between your home and your BOL? If so then food, ammo and potentially fuel is something you want to cache. If you are concerned about things being stolen of confiscated then perhaps some money, precious metals or firearms are what you need to put into your cache. When deciding where to hide your cache you need to ensure that you will always have access to it - in an abandoned building or the middle of a suburban park is not a good idea, but a national park or on some friends land is probably a good idea. You want to keep it away from areas that are prone to flooding or a higher water table - as I said water is the enemy to any survival caches. For the actual location you are going to want at least three ways to find it - GPS is good now, but in a major event will you have a working sat nav? Smaller trees can be burnt in bushfires and floods can change a landscape dramatically so dont rely on only one landmark. Dont put any identifiable information in your cache either, you probably don't want the authorities returning your cache with a brick of ammo and a years supply of fishmox due to the questions they would no doubt have. Like I said at the start if you cant afford to lose it don't cache it. If your serious about it not being found you need to make sure no one sees you bury your cache and no one finds it by accident. If you can bury the cache so the top is at least 1 meter down and once you have replaced the soil if there are large rocks around put one on top. Like all preps consider that 2 is 1 and 1 is none - it would be worth putting extra caches down where possible (not next to each other) in case one gets damaged/found if you can afford to. I've done a number of geocaches in the past that while they are meant to be found, they are not meant to be damaged so Im going to be using that experience over the next couple of weeks and doing a couple of survival caches. Ill take some photos and share the progress with you all here.
|
|
wolfstar
Senior Member
Posts: 1,020
Likes: 917
|
Post by wolfstar on Jan 4, 2014 12:48:25 GMT 10
ok, heres a question, as im considering making a few things with paracord for myself and friends, would they NEED to have carabiners suitable for rock climbing etc (as they are rather pricey to add to a lead for just in case for example), or would the ones from a hardware suffice if they needed to be used in shtf situations? or are there better options? its just that i want ALL parts to be functional even if disassembled. thanks in advance
|
|
wolfstar
Senior Member
Posts: 1,020
Likes: 917
|
Post by wolfstar on Jan 5, 2014 21:46:19 GMT 10
Is bumping allowed? I hope so....if not, forum gids, i beg your forgiveness!
|
|
|
Post by yeshi on Jan 5, 2014 22:10:10 GMT 10
ok, heres a question, as im considering making a few things with paracord for myself and friends, would they NEED to have carabiners suitable for rock climbing etc (as they are rather pricey to add to a lead for just in case for example), or would the ones from a hardware suffice if they needed to be used in shtf situations? or are there better options? its just that i want ALL parts to be functional even if disassembled. thanks in advance What exactly are you making with the paracord, carabiners? Dont think paracord is meant for rock climbing but I might be mistaken. The climbing rated carabiners are made to a certain standard and NDI tested for casting bubbles and inperfections, I would never put my life on the line with a non climbing rated carabiner!! For what you would save, its not worth your life!
|
|
wolfstar
Senior Member
Posts: 1,020
Likes: 917
|
Post by wolfstar on Jan 5, 2014 22:33:17 GMT 10
Well, because its a potential business venture im keeping that private, XP as far as i know its not intended for rock climbing, but can be used for it if needed or for abseiling, thats why i thought id try something that could take a persons weight safely, but the price to add to something that would use $15 worth of paracord, just makes me wonder if its not worthwhile for ppl to buy inc the added cost, you know? Becaise the cheapest ones i have found atm that are climbing approved are $7 each, ( many of my plans will need 2) but gal steel ones from the hardware shop (8mm thickness, 8cm long) are half that price tops... just wondering if you and others have any better ideas for clips or if you would be happy to pay extra for the better quality product?
|
|
wolfstar
Senior Member
Posts: 1,020
Likes: 917
|
Post by wolfstar on Jan 5, 2014 22:34:43 GMT 10
Btw, thanks yeshi, i feel the same but sort of want to scope out what a sample group would want
|
|
Big Ted
Senior Member
SO TIRED
Posts: 849
Likes: 807
|
Post by Big Ted on Jan 10, 2014 11:47:04 GMT 10
Paracord can be effectively and safely used as a Prusik regarding climbing and abseiling but unless my life was at stake I would not use it for anything else in that situation at all. Equipment loop links etc, nothing load bearing.
|
|
|
Post by StepfordRenegade on May 16, 2014 16:00:42 GMT 10
Any advice on a good multi-tool? I've been looking online and there are SO many different options I have no idea what is useful and what is just extra weight. I want a decent sized knife component but apart from pliers and wood saw addition I don't know what other tools I should look for on it.
Any recommendations on brand or a particular multi tool that you've used and like?
|
|
|
Post by tacticalmonkey on May 17, 2014 0:29:06 GMT 10
Any advice on a good multi-tool? I've been looking online and there are SO many different options I have no idea what is useful and what is just extra weight. I want a decent sized knife component but apart from pliers and wood saw addition I don't know what other tools I should look for on it. Any recommendations on brand or a particular multi tool that you've used and like? how much are you looking at spending cos for a good one you are probably looking at around the 250 mark.
|
|
shinester
Senior Member
China's white trash
Posts: 3,119
Likes: 3,578
Email: shiny@ausprep.org
|
Post by shinester on May 17, 2014 0:55:44 GMT 10
Re: water in caches. Digging a hole loosens the soil and it then acts like any other hole in the ground and forms a small pond as water runs into it. Looking at how to build underground houses has clued me up here pretty well and a way to help reduce water is to have a drain, perhaps ag-pipe leading away, or you can also form a kind of gutter in the slope above the storage area. It's also a really good idea if you can pull out the gear without pulling out the container, because you might want to change gear, it's quicker if time is important and also to keep the cache hidden.
|
|
|
Post by StepfordRenegade on May 17, 2014 7:15:46 GMT 10
Any advice on a good multi-tool? I've been looking online and there are SO many different options I have no idea what is useful and what is just extra weight. I want a decent sized knife component but apart from pliers and wood saw addition I don't know what other tools I should look for on it. Any recommendations on brand or a particular multi tool that you've used and like? how much are you looking at spending cos for a good one you are probably looking at around the 250 mark. Ouch! No way could I convince hubby we *needed* to spend that much. I'm looking at less than $50 (preferably around $30) and it'll be for my EDC so preferably it'd fit in my pocket/handbag/glovebox.
|
|
|
Post by tacticalmonkey on May 17, 2014 22:08:18 GMT 10
how much are you looking at spending cos for a good one you are probably looking at around the 250 mark. Ouch! No way could I convince hubby we *needed* to spend that much. I'm looking at less than $50 (preferably around $30) and it'll be for my EDC so preferably it'd fit in my pocket/handbag/glovebox. bad news is for 30 bucks, the first time you use it, it would probably fall apart. good news is i maybe able to help you out just give me abit of time.
|
|
|
Post by StepfordRenegade on May 18, 2014 7:25:27 GMT 10
Ouch! No way could I convince hubby we *needed* to spend that much. I'm looking at less than $50 (preferably around $30) and it'll be for my EDC so preferably it'd fit in my pocket/handbag/glovebox. bad news is for 30 bucks, the first time you use it, it would probably fall apart. good news is i maybe able to help you out just give me abit of time. Bummer! I'm intrigued though, what sort of help are you thinking?
|
|