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Post by Joey on Feb 17, 2021 14:11:00 GMT 10
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9265893/Australias-defence-force-signs-storage-military-secrets-Chinese-owned-company.htmlAustralia's defence department puts Chinese-owned company in charge of storing military secrets - sparking fears Beijing will steal vital information\ Data firm 49% owned by Chinese company stores Australia's military secrets Global Switch had its contract renewed by parliament on Tuesday until 2025 PM Scott Morrison said the ADF's most sensitive files had already been moved Some politicians are concerned China will have access to Australia's secret files By ALANA TINDALE FOR DAILY MAIL AUSTRALIA PUBLISHED: 01:27 AEDT, 17 February 2021 | UPDATED: 03:04 AEDT, 17 February 2021 A Chinese-owned data storage company will house files for the Australian Defence Force, sparking fears the global superpower could easily access Australia's military secrets. The parent company of data firm Global Switch, Aldersgate Investments, sold 49 per cent of its stake to Chinese consortium Elegant Jubilee in 2016. At the time then-treasurer Scott Morrison said all military documents would be phased out of the storage facility in Ultimo, Sydney, by 2020. Instead the contract, which was due to expire in October last year, was quietly renewed until September 2025 in a $53.5million deal, federal parliament revealed on Tuesday. In 2017 Prime Minister Scott Morrison, who was then treasurer, ordered all sensitive data be removed from a storage facility run by Global Switch in Sydney by 2020, reported the Daily Telegraph. 'They've made a decision to get their data out of that data centre and that's an entirely appropriate decision, and they'll get that done I understand by 2020,' he said at the time. Mr Morrison defended the renewal in parliament this week, saying the facility does not hold the most classified documents and defence was moving 'less sensitive and unclassified data assets to an alternative data centre'. However, Queensland MP Bob Katter and independent MP Andrew Wilkie moved a motion to end data storage contracts with foreign-owned companies. 'What is the point of having a defence system when a military 100 times larger than ours knows where all your defence assets are?' Mr Katter said in parliament. Elegant Jubilee bought their $4billion stake in the company in cash, a decision by Aldersgate Investments that caused ire among some UK politicians at the time. Defence has said they will control the data at the Sydney warehouse until all the files had migrated somewhere else by 2025. The Australian Taxation Office and the Australian Securities and Investments Commission are progressively moving their files away from the company due to security concerns. The security concerns follow escalating tensions between Australia and China after Australia questioned China's role in the outbreak of Covid-19 and blocked Chinese-backed developments. China has also imposed tariffs and bans on Australian goods and discouraged China nationals from buying Australian products and travelling to the country. Cracks in the relationship began forming after Australian intelligence concluded China cyber-attacked Australia's parliament and major political parties before the 2019 election.
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Post by norseman on Feb 17, 2021 16:07:19 GMT 10
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9265893/Australias-defence-force-signs-storage-military-secrets-Chinese-owned-company.htmlAustralia's defence department puts Chinese-owned company in charge of storing military secrets - sparking fears Beijing will steal vital information\ Data firm 49% owned by Chinese company stores Australia's military secrets Global Switch had its contract renewed by parliament on Tuesday until 2025 PM Scott Morrison said the ADF's most sensitive files had already been moved Some politicians are concerned China will have access to Australia's secret files By ALANA TINDALE FOR DAILY MAIL AUSTRALIA PUBLISHED: 01:27 AEDT, 17 February 2021 | UPDATED: 03:04 AEDT, 17 February 2021 A Chinese-owned data storage company will house files for the Australian Defence Force, sparking fears the global superpower could easily access Australia's military secrets. The parent company of data firm Global Switch, Aldersgate Investments, sold 49 per cent of its stake to Chinese consortium Elegant Jubilee in 2016. At the time then-treasurer Scott Morrison said all military documents would be phased out of the storage facility in Ultimo, Sydney, by 2020. Instead the contract, which was due to expire in October last year, was quietly renewed until September 2025 in a $53.5million deal, federal parliament revealed on Tuesday. In 2017 Prime Minister Scott Morrison, who was then treasurer, ordered all sensitive data be removed from a storage facility run by Global Switch in Sydney by 2020, reported the Daily Telegraph. 'They've made a decision to get their data out of that data centre and that's an entirely appropriate decision, and they'll get that done I understand by 2020,' he said at the time. Mr Morrison defended the renewal in parliament this week, saying the facility does not hold the most classified documents and defence was moving 'less sensitive and unclassified data assets to an alternative data centre'. However, Queensland MP Bob Katter and independent MP Andrew Wilkie moved a motion to end data storage contracts with foreign-owned companies. 'What is the point of having a defence system when a military 100 times larger than ours knows where all your defence assets are?' Mr Katter said in parliament. Elegant Jubilee bought their $4billion stake in the company in cash, a decision by Aldersgate Investments that caused ire among some UK politicians at the time. Defence has said they will control the data at the Sydney warehouse until all the files had migrated somewhere else by 2025. The Australian Taxation Office and the Australian Securities and Investments Commission are progressively moving their files away from the company due to security concerns. The security concerns follow escalating tensions between Australia and China after Australia questioned China's role in the outbreak of Covid-19 and blocked Chinese-backed developments. China has also imposed tariffs and bans on Australian goods and discouraged China nationals from buying Australian products and travelling to the country. Cracks in the relationship began forming after Australian intelligence concluded China cyber-attacked Australia's parliament and major political parties before the 2019 election. And to think these incompetent faarkers according to the "Law" literally have the power of life and death over each and every single one of us! |
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Post by SA Hunter on Mar 8, 2021 8:41:19 GMT 10
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Post by spinifex on Mar 10, 2021 19:10:45 GMT 10
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Post by spinifex on Mar 10, 2021 19:22:01 GMT 10
What genuine strategic defence capability looks like when used ... Put them on SSBM's and get proper nuclear subs to carry them in great secrecy beneath the waves. No-one is game to conduct a war where everyone is the loser. Which is why those who own these things have never, and will never, face an invasion force on their home soil. The cost to the aggressor is far too high.  |
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Post by malewithatail on Mar 10, 2021 19:34:11 GMT 10
A farm machinery dealer was telling me the other day, that no one wants Chinese tractors etc any more. He is looking at importing Indian or Italian types. Time to boycott Chinese rubbish anyway. It will be hard for a while until our own manufacturing picks up the slack, but in the long run we will be better off.
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Post by SA Hunter on Mar 12, 2021 15:38:21 GMT 10
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Post by spinifex on Mar 12, 2021 18:16:00 GMT 10
Welcome to capitalism? All that matters is making a nice profit?
Probably just toss an endangered frog into the flooded mine pit and then alert the Greenies onto them. They'll fuss the bejesus out of the foreigners who are not used to 'rules' being followed in their places of origin or protests being mounted to benefit amphibians.
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Post by SA Hunter on Mar 13, 2021 11:36:55 GMT 10
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Post by norseman on Mar 13, 2021 12:27:41 GMT 10
At the risk of sounding like a total prick I'm pretty much over giving a **** anymore! Australia probably deserves everything that's coming for 1) Being so complacent and apathetic on an individual basis and 2) Continuously voting in Politifilth who have done nothing but engage with China in treasonous crimes against our citizens again and again!
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Post by malewithatail on Mar 13, 2021 13:12:18 GMT 10
That's a good comment, but eventually the scumbag polies will realize they have been shafted and look for a solution, we then have to be ready for all hell to break loose. We have to wake up that China is not our friend. And their s..t is not particularly good, but only cheap. We must realize we cant have good and cheap in the same sentence.
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Post by SA Hunter on Mar 13, 2021 17:51:45 GMT 10
I was listening to a radio interview with an "expert" in China relations, and the radio announcer asked him how did it get to this - our reliance on China, the selling of our land and now, assets, the de stabilisation of our region - how did it get to this.
His answer in one word - "Greed". We got greedy for the money China was throwing at us, and we became their lap dogs, and they our masters.
Is it too late?
No, but it won't be easy, and our Govt needs to put our interests before money.
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Post by milspec on Mar 13, 2021 19:00:52 GMT 10
I was listening to a radio interview with an "expert" in China relations, and the radio announcer asked him how did it get to this - our reliance on China, the selling of our land and now, assets, the de stabilisation of our region - how did it get to this. His answer in one word - "Greed". We got greedy for the money China was throwing at us, and we became their lap dogs, and they our masters. Is it too late? No, but it won't be easy, and our Govt needs to put our interests before money. Its not just .gov ... few business put principles above profit and few consumers put principles above cost. Hence we are doomed to little more than lip service on the subject of independence from reliance on China. Businesses will continue to operate with China and consumers will choose the cheapest goods. I'm not above it either ... it pained me to buy a new DJI drone because there is no equivalent in the same price/performance bracket and same same for security cameras of which I just bought a dozen HIK vision cameras because China cornered that market while the rest of the world dropped the ball. I wish it wasn't so. |
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Post by malewithatail on Mar 13, 2021 19:49:07 GMT 10
And don't forget us people who want cheap, usually inferior products. We are just as guilty of selling out Australia as they are. Time to stop buying their s..t and buy Aussie made, where possible. Our manufacturing base has been reduced by the chings along with our indifference. Yes, it will be hard to wean us off cheap stuff, but we can do it as a nation, if we want to remain free.
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Post by frostbite on Mar 13, 2021 20:18:14 GMT 10
Many years ago I went into a tool shop and asked for a drill that wasn't made in China. The salesman laughed in my face. You can't not buy Chinese if no other country on this planet produces anything.
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Post by grumble on Mar 14, 2021 10:20:22 GMT 10
Many years ago I went into a tool shop and asked for a drill that wasn't made in China. The salesman laughed in my face. You can't not buy Chinese if no other country on this planet produces anything. This is something i encounter more often then not very few people have core basic items in stock that are not made in china and that's because all the large corporations moved their manufacturing to china so its a no win situation Even reputable brands are either owned by Chinese parent companies or made in china its just the average person doesn't know it |
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Post by Stealth on Mar 14, 2021 12:43:27 GMT 10
Agreed. Of all the shenanigans that the CCP are up to, BRI concerns me the most because your average picnic bear doesn't actually care even a little bit about what's going on with our regional neighbours. They rant that they hate everything China related but only focus on the overt acts that stand out. China is treating us like a frog in a pot, and they're getting away with it. Most of the country hasn't noticed that the water is coming up to a rolling boil very swiftly.
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Post by spinifex on Mar 14, 2021 15:08:04 GMT 10
I was listening to a radio interview with an "expert" in China relations, and the radio announcer asked him how did it get to this - our reliance on China, the selling of our land and now, assets, the de stabilisation of our region - how did it get to this. His answer in one word - "Greed". We got greedy for the money China was throwing at us, and we became their lap dogs, and they our masters. Is it too late? No, but it won't be easy, and our Govt needs to put our interests before money. Its not just .gov ... few business put principles above profit and few consumers put principles above cost. Hence we are doomed to little more than lip service on the subject of independence from reliance on China. Businesses will continue to operate with China and consumers will choose the cheapest goods. I'm not above it either ... it pained me to buy a new DJI drone because there is no equivalent in the same price/performance bracket and same same for security cameras of which I just bought a dozen HIK vision cameras because China cornered that market while the rest of the world dropped the ball. I wish it wasn't so. Indeed. We live in a capitalist system. Where a lot of people claim to hate "socialists" and most people don't know what an actual Socialist Government IS. And then complain when the system they love works exactly as advertised. Individual business owners seeking to maximise profit and individual wealth. And Private interests coveting, above all else, control of utilities and other economic essentials where they can name their price and people just have to put up with it - and it ends up being an economic handbrake for everyone else. South Australia made massive strides forward in its economy and standard of living under someone, who was effectively a socialist, leading the state liberal party. Under Sir Thomas Playford (late 30's to mid 60's) Electricity went from be privately owned, expensive and very limited in distribution to State owned, cheap and widely distributed. Housing when from privately developed and owned and expensive to huge Government developed and owned estates and cheapest housing in the land - which made cost of living and therefore wages the lowest in the land. Water network he did the same - and irrigated agriculture and industry boomed. Under the "socialist style" of sir Thomas Playford business from all over the world Flocked into SA and manufacturing was by far our biggest economic sector. Why? Because he "socialised" important things to make them cheaply and fairly available to EVERYONE. There was employment galore and no welfare nor need for it. He tweaked the settings of the economy so businesses found it profitable to be here ... and they came. And his Liberal party membership hated him for it. A master Class in Irony: The 'business and wealth party' ends up with a socialist leader who they largely despise and who goes on to create the biggest economic and standard of living boom the state has ever seen in its history. LMAO. A couple of further point worth knowing: Tom Playford routinely gave the opposition party credit for supporting his bills through parliament and helping to make things happen. They haven't taught ANYTHING about this bloke and his acheivements in schools in South Australia since at least the late 70's. If more kids learned about who this politician was, what he did and how he did it ... we might have a population better equipped to recognise and vote for candidates who get things done for everyones benefit. And better yet ... some of those kids might turn out to BE a politician of his calibre. |
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