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Post by spinifex on Mar 29, 2021 17:25:56 GMT 10
Holy cow! Coming to a sea near you soon. Wherever you are!
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Post by frostbite on Mar 29, 2021 18:21:42 GMT 10
So what happens in the near future when a RAN patrol boat catches an armed Chinese fishing trawler fishing inside our EEZ? Do they ram us? Do we fire on them?
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Post by malewithatail on Mar 29, 2021 19:17:40 GMT 10
Stealth, a torpedo from our made in wherever now, but not ready yet, submarines. They will never see it coming.
A person is just about as big as the things that make them angry.
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Post by spinifex on Mar 30, 2021 7:07:25 GMT 10
So what happens in the near future when a RAN patrol boat catches an armed Chinese fishing trawler fishing inside our EEZ? Do they ram us? Do we fire on them? Invite them aboard for tea and scones? |
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Post by Joey on Mar 30, 2021 19:29:51 GMT 10
So what happens in the near future when a RAN patrol boat catches an armed Chinese fishing trawler fishing inside our EEZ? Do they ram us? Do we fire on them? Offer them a defence force paid for gender surgery? |
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Post by spinifex on Mar 31, 2021 19:02:29 GMT 10
It might be interesting if one of our unmanned submarine drones accidentally sank one of these chinese 'fishing' vessels. At a rate of about once a week.
"Sorry! Glitchy software! Can't control them properly!
We've reported the error to Boeing ... waiting for a patch to make them work properly!
Should only take about 10 years to fix the problem and then we'll be able to stop sinking your ships!"
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Post by milspec on Mar 31, 2021 20:13:43 GMT 10
So what happens in the near future when a RAN patrol boat catches an armed Chinese fishing trawler fishing inside our EEZ? Do they ram us? Do we fire on them? Pretty straight forwards, if a Chinese flagged vessel rams or fires on an Australian warship, it returns fire to disable said vessel. .gov then decides what level of spin to apply on the world stage to further Australian agenda. Have no doubt about it though, a Chinese flagged vessel firing on an Australian warship in Australian territorial waters is a major escalation on behalf of China. |
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Post by Stealth on Apr 1, 2021 10:14:01 GMT 10
So what happens in the near future when a RAN patrol boat catches an armed Chinese fishing trawler fishing inside our EEZ? Do they ram us? Do we fire on them? Pretty straight forwards, if a Chinese flagged vessel rams or fires on an Australian warship, it returns fire to disable said vessel. .gov then decides what level of spin to apply on the world stage to further Australian agenda. Have no doubt about it though, a Chinese flagged vessel firing on an Australian warship in Australian territorial waters is a major escalation on behalf of China. Even an 'accidental ramming' would make them particularly twitchy. And I think that'd be where it'd go first, they wouldn't pull the trigger. They'd (at least, imo) do something that they could apply enough plausible deniability to so that they wouldn't get international smackdown. It'd be interesting to see the fall out, because I'm not sure spin would matter at that point. There's more than just us fishing in that pool at this stage. |
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Post by frostbite on Apr 1, 2021 11:00:03 GMT 10
So would a fleet of mobile launchers, able to shoot and scoot and take out Chinese surface ships with hypersonic long range missiles be enough of a deterrent for the CCP to respect our EEZ?
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Post by SA Hunter on Apr 1, 2021 12:31:59 GMT 10
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Post by Joey on Apr 2, 2021 10:19:46 GMT 10
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Post by SA Hunter on Apr 2, 2021 13:56:34 GMT 10
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Post by SA Hunter on Apr 5, 2021 0:51:53 GMT 10
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Post by SA Hunter on Apr 19, 2021 21:39:39 GMT 10
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Post by milspec on Apr 22, 2021 5:08:09 GMT 10
Federal .GOV has torn up the Vic/China BRI agreement. A necessary move, I wonder which Australian business sector will wear the wrath of China's next hissy fit.
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Post by spinifex on Apr 22, 2021 8:34:13 GMT 10
We really should start to use our mighty iron ore lever on their economy. Triple the community owned resource extraction tax (aka Royalties) on it for starters and just keep on hiking it until everyone is squealing like scalded pigs because theyre finally paying what its really worth: Gina, twiggy, the Saudi and Emirate sovereign wealth funds who majority sharehold our big iron miners and of course ZingPing and the chinese steel industry.
Together they'd make quite an orchestra.
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Post by Stealth on Apr 22, 2021 10:19:40 GMT 10
Federal .GOV has torn up the Vic/China BRI agreement. A necessary move, I wonder which Australian business sector will wear the wrath of China's next hissy fit. I'm not sure, but I AM hopeful that the response to this from our gov will be to even further decrease our reliance on them. Manufacturing in our own country is really the only solution there, so I'd hope to see more primary industry starting to crop up. Anyone that is able to take advantage of the situation with a primary business idea now will definitely be on the front foot. I'd like to see their control here slowly eroded and as much as I have no problem with the Chinese people as a whole (their food is amazing, and their culture fascinating) the CCP is an absolute plague on the planet and they're in it for the long haul. I'm pretty pleased to hear that the BRI is losing traction. While I think state governments should have the ability to make decisions for their state, that was definitely a decision that impacted on the whole country and frankly I think it was a terrible choice. |
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Post by Joey on Apr 22, 2021 18:33:44 GMT 10
On my report on the last page about the Chinese navy fishing fleet parking up in the Philipinnes reef, the US navy and Filipino navies made a sort of armada and pushed them back out of the waters, but the Chinese had already started to build some type of structure on the reef while all these hundreds of "fishing" boats were covering it up
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Post by milspec on Apr 22, 2021 20:20:46 GMT 10
We really should start to use our mighty iron ore lever on their economy. Triple the community owned resource extraction tax (aka Royalties) on it for starters and just keep on hiking it until everyone is squealing like scalded pigs because theyre finally paying what its really worth: Gina, twiggy, the Saudi and Emirate sovereign wealth funds who majority sharehold our big iron miners and of course ZingPing and the chinese steel industry. Together they'd make quite an orchestra. I couldn't agree more. We should also apply a trade insurance offset levy to all Iron ore sales to China (Insurance against hurting China's incredibly sensitive feelings... because barely a week goes by without their feelings getting hurt ). I mean really, if China wants to be an unreliable/ crap customer why not apply a levy to commodities China needs to offset Chinese punitive international trade practises against other Australian exports. |
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