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Post by frostbite on Feb 5, 2022 15:25:08 GMT 10
I wish all the rhetoric would end and we just get on with a good old fashioned world war. The planet needs a good cull, Plenty of sheep in Australia I wouldn't miss.
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Post by rgreenw on Feb 6, 2022 17:15:18 GMT 10
Deja Vous ... 1936 Summer Olympics ... Prelim to the 2nd world war ... who says history doesn't repeat itself ....
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Post by bug on Feb 7, 2022 7:09:38 GMT 10
The PRC has it all:
- Religion based concentration camps
- Secret police
- Mass surveillance of citizens
- Publicly stated territorial ambitions over it's neighbours
- Authoritarian government
- 'Cult of personality' style dictator
- Rampant racism
- Wants to show itself off to the world by the olympics
That's a LOT of similarity with 1930s Germany.
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Post by rgreenw on Feb 7, 2022 15:13:17 GMT 10
Hitler & Musaline … XiXiping & Putin … smell familiar?  |
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Post by Joey on Feb 11, 2022 22:20:58 GMT 10
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Post by Stealth on Feb 12, 2022 11:10:28 GMT 10
I don't think any political group is better than any other but the thing is most aren't going to think critically. China is going to be putting inroads into EVERY political individual in the country. It's simply hedging bets. If you want to achieve a goal you have to have a finger in every pie.
But why are we hearing about this in such a broad way? Is it because it benefits the MSM owners? Is it because someone's pushed the story to benefit their group politically? Or is it because our security agencies want to send out the messaging that they're watching? I honestly don't know, but I remain hopeful that we're not going to move beyond 'Get out of our business'. Not delusionaly so mind you. Still gonna prep till the cows come home lol.
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Post by bug on Feb 12, 2022 13:39:44 GMT 10
That's not really anything new. Several MPs have been caught directly taking 'donations' from CCP associated businessmen. ASIO does seem to be getting far more active after the CCP tried to get Huawei into the 5G network, which would have been an unstoppable intelligence gathering gold mine for them. Our federal government is finally becoming vocal about the CCP too. It's really only the Vic government that signed up to the belt and road. The feds scrapped the agreement, but Andrews went and signed construction contracts with China Construction Oceania to work on defence land anyway.
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Post by frostbite on Feb 12, 2022 13:58:28 GMT 10
We are hearing about it now because there are 4 by-elections taking place today in NSW, and the Liberal grubbyment can't afford to lose any seats to Labor as they are already in minority. So the Federal Liberal grubbyment got grubby to discredit the Labour State canditates.
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Post by Joey on Feb 20, 2022 19:25:19 GMT 10
China is now provoking us into a reaction with their navy ship hanging just off the northern coastline, caught shining lasers at our military aircraft today while they did patrols along the coast.
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Post by bug on Feb 21, 2022 13:03:54 GMT 10
Yep. It's the usual first step before their fishing fleet shows up.
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Post by milspec on Feb 21, 2022 16:33:53 GMT 10
China is now provoking us into a reaction with their navy ship hanging just off the northern coastline, caught shining lasers at our military aircraft today while they did patrols along the coast. I logged in specifically to see if this action had been noted for the significance it represents. This hostile act of engaging a weapon system on an aircraft would have been an notable escalation of tension if it had occurred in the South China sea - there it may have been somewhat anticipated. For this to have occurred in uncontested Australian waters is a bold and aggressive move by China. Make of that what you will. |
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Post by Joey on Feb 21, 2022 17:07:38 GMT 10
Yep they sure are getting ballsy now doing it in our own backyard
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Post by bug on Feb 21, 2022 17:10:51 GMT 10
It's normal for the CCP. Have a look what they did to the Phillipines. They manufactured a claim over the south china sea, but didn't act on it. Then they started sending in fishing boats. Then they brought in their navy and airforce to push out any Phillipines military or commercial boats. Then they said they would never militarise the region. Then they built naval and airforce bases on artificial islands. They ignored the UNCLOS ruling which totally nullified their claims.
It's a predictable chain of events. The CCP will try and claim Australian territory. My 50c is on them first trying to mine in our Antarctic Territory when the Antarctic treaty expires. They're testing our will to fight back, well in advance.
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Post by spinifex on Feb 21, 2022 18:33:12 GMT 10
It's normal for the CCP. Have a look what they did to the Phillipines. They manufactured a claim over the south china sea, but didn't act on it. Then they started sending in fishing boats. Then they brought in their navy and airforce to push out any Phillipines military or commercial boats. Then they said they would never militarise the region. Then they built naval and airforce bases on artificial islands. They ignored the UNCLOS ruling which totally nullified their claims. It's a predictable chain of events. The CCP will try and claim Australian territory. My 50c is on them first trying to mine in our Antarctic Territory when the Antarctic treaty expires. They're testing our will to fight back, well in advance. totally agree ... they will mine on all sorts of territory in Antarctica. And no-one will stop them ... they will more likely join them ... |
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Post by spinifex on Feb 21, 2022 18:40:00 GMT 10
China is now provoking us into a reaction with their navy ship hanging just off the northern coastline, caught shining lasers at our military aircraft today while they did patrols along the coast. I logged in specifically to see if this action had been noted for the significance it represents. This hostile act of engaging a weapon system on an aircraft would have been an notable escalation of tension if it had occurred in the South China sea - there it may have been somewhat anticipated. For this to have occurred in uncontested Australian waters is a bold and aggressive move by China. Make of that what you will. Why didn't we practice some nice maritime strike action with our Super Hornets? How many of our Hornets are combat capable at the moment? Anyone know?? |
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Post by bug on Feb 21, 2022 18:41:29 GMT 10
Actual hornets may prove more effective.
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Post by Stealth on Feb 21, 2022 19:17:49 GMT 10
I logged in specifically to see if this action had been noted for the significance it represents. This hostile act of engaging a weapon system on an aircraft would have been an notable escalation of tension if it had occurred in the South China sea - there it may have been somewhat anticipated. For this to have occurred in uncontested Australian waters is a bold and aggressive move by China. Make of that what you will. In fairness, I don't think the average joe has an understanding of just how aggressive another nation lazing your birds actually is. I was expecting SOME kind of actual response but seems like a demarche is most likely to be the most dramatic thing that came out of that. Be interesting to see what happens if they do it again. The great potato wouldn't stand for it. And for once, I kinda agree with that attitude. We already know that their MO is doing things over and over again so that they can shrug and say "Well, you never did anything about it before!". (Also... Good to see your 'face' again  ) |
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Post by frostbite on Feb 21, 2022 19:43:14 GMT 10
Perhaps one of our subs can ping the hull of that Chinese ship. Just to determine it's distance.
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Post by SA Hunter on Feb 21, 2022 21:50:17 GMT 10
China is now provoking us into a reaction with their navy ship hanging just off the northern coastline, caught shining lasers at our military aircraft today while they did patrols along the coast. I logged in specifically to see if this action had been noted for the significance it represents. This hostile act of engaging a weapon system on an aircraft would have been an notable escalation of tension if it had occurred in the South China sea - there it may have been somewhat anticipated. For this to have occurred in uncontested Australian waters is a bold and aggressive move by China. Make of that what you will. HI. |
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Post by bushdoc2 on Feb 22, 2022 6:53:14 GMT 10
It's normal for the CCP. Have a look what they did to the Phillipines. They manufactured a claim over the south china sea, but didn't act on it. Then they started sending in fishing boats. Then they brought in their navy and airforce to push out any Phillipines military or commercial boats. Then they said they would never militarise the region. Then they built naval and airforce bases on artificial islands. They ignored the UNCLOS ruling which totally nullified their claims. It's a predictable chain of events. The CCP will try and claim Australian territory. My 50c is on them first trying to mine in our Antarctic Territory when the Antarctic treaty expires. They're testing our will to fight back, well in advance. "Salami tactics" as per the adviser in "Yes, Prime Minister". Slice by slice, yet never crossing the line in the sand enough to warrant a Western leader hitting the red button.
Lines are drawn in the sand, as it's easier to erase and re-draw them than if done in concrete...
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