Beno
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Post by Beno on Mar 7, 2022 17:47:24 GMT 10
I wonder how many specialists from other countries are becoming Ukrainian citizens to assist with the resistance? I also wonder what goodies they are bringing with them?
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Post by Stealth on Mar 7, 2022 18:05:12 GMT 10
I don't think they need to. All they have to do is say 'feck it, we're in'. It's just deciding the trip line for when you commit to the level of almost certainly dragging the world into WWIII.
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Post by spatial on Mar 7, 2022 20:22:30 GMT 10
I wonder how many specialists from other countries are becoming Ukrainian citizens to assist with the resistance? I also wonder what goodies they are bringing with them? Up to 16,000 including special forces Japanese, France foreign legion, etc, including military officers for leadership. They have a foreign battalion. UK citizens actively incouraged to join, Ukrain has wavered all visa requirements. Ukrainian in jail with military experience are being let out to fight. www.zerohedge.com/markets/foreign-fighters-all-over-world-join-ukraines-fight
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Post by spatial on Mar 7, 2022 21:01:05 GMT 10
I don't think they need to. All they have to do is say 'feck it, we're in'. It's just deciding the trip line for when you commit to the level of almost certainly dragging the world into WWIII. The sanctions on Russia, loss of men and equipment in Ukraine will cause globa bankruptcy , on an already stresses system, no doubt will lead to WWW3
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Post by spatial on Mar 7, 2022 21:05:31 GMT 10
Hundreds Of Thousands Of Global Hackers Are Banding Together To Disrupt Russian Military, Banking And Communication NetworksThere are reportedly more than 400,000 "volunteer hackers" helping Ukraine fight its cyberwar against Russia. Victor Zhora, deputy chief of Ukraine’s information protection service, told Bloomberg last week that Ukraine was putting up a "cyber resistance" against its invasion that would work to try and weaken Russia. Zhora said: “Our friends, Ukrainians all over globe, [are] united to defend our country in cyberspace. [Ukraine is working to do] everything possible to protect our land in cyberspace, our networks, and to make the aggressor feel uncomfortable with their actions.” www.zerohedge.com/markets/hundreds-thousands-global-hackers-are-banding-together-disrupt-russian-military-banking-and
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Post by SA Hunter on Mar 7, 2022 22:15:03 GMT 10
I've admired Putin for a lot of what he has done ie - putting Russia first, not caving in to the UN or the do gooders, having gold holdings that exceed national debt, arrest warrant for George Sorros etc. I like that. But, I was always wary of him, especially being ex KGB. Those mongrels (NKVD) sent my grandfather to Siberia during the Russian Civil War for refusing to join the reds ( he escaped but that's another story ). This has turned me against him.
My dad spent his early years in Mariupol, Ukraine. I visited it twice in 1990. I have fond memories, and am sickened by what is happening. I was there in the USSR 2 weeks before the fall of Communism, and then 5 months later. I fell in love with Kiev ( mind you, my blonde interpreter Tatiana probably had a LOT to do with that). We have family in Mariupol, and many friends in Kiev and other parts of the Ukraine. I hope they are all ok.
I just don't get why, I really don't see what it will achieve. I've read news from both sides - Putin was pushed into a corner by the US/Nato, he's enforcing the 2014 Minsk Accord ( that's a good read ), to he's a devil who wants to re create the former USSR, and all theories in between. I still don't get it.
Read an article in the news (msn) the author wrote about the lack of response by the West/US. Sure we'll give you arms, and supplies, but we won't go boots on the ground, but we will write a very nasty letter to Russia and tell them how angry we are at them. It made a comparison with China, who must be sitting back watching the lack of response to the invasion of Ukraine, thinking, wow, if we invade Taiwan, we'll get a nasty letter too!!! I know there is more to it, and I wish I saved the article, and of course I can't find it - but it is food for thought.
Could this conflict get global? Is the US/West letting Ukraine fall to appease Russia hoping that's the last of his expansionist plans - remember, Hitler started with Sudetenland. That stopped there, didn't it!! What is China going to do? They have just announced that China & Russia's relationship is rock solid.
Petrol increasing, Ukraine can't plant it's wheat crops, ports in Black Sea all closed so no exports in/out, it's a worry.
Gives one even more reason to increase the preps, it may fizz out, it may not. If I had a crystal ball, I'd tell you what to do. Just watch closely what is happening and what other nations are doing, and keep a close eye on China.
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Post by frostbite on Mar 8, 2022 4:07:17 GMT 10
It seems clear to me that the AUS grubbyment is preparing for war with China. New nuclear subs, a sub base on the East Coast, (perhaps even within 10km of my house), new longer range missiles, increased anti-China rhetoric etc.
IMO the biggest threat to my standard of living is China closing our sea lanes in retaliation for us supporting a US response to China invading Taiwan. No fuel arriving will cause massive problems for us.
So I'm increasing my preps, filling all those 50l drums I bought recently. This week is sugar week, cheap, currently plentiful, very hard to make myself when the trucks stop rolling. Another 20kg purchased in the last week. Another 20kg to go. Then it's onto increasing my wheat store.
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Post by norseman on Mar 8, 2022 5:46:39 GMT 10
It seems clear to me that the AUS grubbyment is preparing for war with China. New nuclear subs, a sub base on the East Coast, (perhaps even within 10km of my house), new longer range missiles, increased anti-China rhetoric etc. IMO the biggest threat to my standard of living is China closing our sea lanes in retaliation for us supporting a US response to China invading Taiwan. No fuel arriving will cause massive problems for us. So I'm increasing my preps, filling all those 50l drums I bought recently. This week is sugar week, cheap, currently plentiful, very hard to make myself when the trucks stop rolling. Another 20kg purchased in the last week. Another 20kg to go. Then it's onto increasing my wheat store. China "closing" our sea lanes can only be achieved through the threat and / or use of lethal force. The first Australian bound Merchant Vessel that cops a missile or torpedo will widen the conflict but I believe the Australian Government will try to pretend it didn't happen!
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Post by malewithatail on Mar 8, 2022 6:32:48 GMT 10
Since taking up beekeeping again after a few years absence, our sugar consumption has gone to almost nothing. And a side benefit is that my arthritis has almost gone away, as I dont use gloves when handling the bees and do get the occasional sting. Looking at how we can grow our own wheat, tricky cause most seed is hybrid nowadays and needs other inputs, such as fertilizer. Besides, u dont own the seed, only the rights to grow a crop from that seed.
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Post by malewithatail on Mar 8, 2022 6:40:53 GMT 10
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Post by bug on Mar 8, 2022 8:05:26 GMT 10
Wheat prices definitely set to spike. Ukraine has the world's best wheat growing fields, with Russia not far behind. With both out of action, other wheat farmers are going to do very well.
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Post by tactile on Mar 8, 2022 11:16:17 GMT 10
Wheat futures going off..
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Post by tactile on Mar 8, 2022 11:40:03 GMT 10
I know he's flogging a book but...
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Post by spatial on Mar 8, 2022 20:57:40 GMT 10
I think intelligence is also making a difference, US and EU feeding the Ukrainians info where to attack, air force and vehicle movements, 3 Russian military commander's killed. Two short vids..
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Post by norseman on Mar 9, 2022 13:36:43 GMT 10
Just out two hours ago:- The Pentagon has dismissed Poland’s plan to hand its MiG-29 fighter jets to the US, to donate them to Ukraine. The Polish foreign minister, Zbigniew Rau, said his government was “ready to deploy – immediately and free of charge – all their MiG-29 jets to the Ramstein air base and place them at the disposal of the government of the United States of America”, amid intelligence agency warnings that Vladimir Putin is about to “double down” in his invasion. However, the Pentagon appeared to reject the proposal, saying it was not “tenable”. The US Department of Defense said the prospect of the jets departing from a base in Germany “to fly into airspace that is contested with Russia over Ukraine raises serious concerns for the entire Nato alliance”. www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/russia-ukraine-war-what-we-know-on-day-14-of-the-russian-invasion/ar-AAUOg7A?ocid=msedgntpJust like I was saying, Vlad doesn't do "back down" !
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Post by bug on Mar 9, 2022 14:26:13 GMT 10
The US cannot tell Poland what to do here. They can certainly veto any attempt to bring NATO into the conflict, but cannot stop Poland sending aid to the Ukraine.
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Post by spatial on Mar 9, 2022 21:03:31 GMT 10
Ukraine is winning !!!!
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Post by norseman on Mar 9, 2022 21:37:07 GMT 10
Putin 'cannot possibly afford to lose' against Ukrainewww.msn.com/en-au/news/other/putin-cannot-possibly-afford-to-lose-against-ukraine/ar-AAUOKha?ocid=msedgntp“I mean, he’s under pressure from the economic cost at home, but worst of all, I think would be to lose,” Mr Sheridan told Sky News Australia.
“So, I think the best hope is that maybe he'll settle for half the country or something like that.
“But he’s a rat in a corner, and I expect him to be more vicious than ever now, so I think we could be in for some shocking days ahead where he pounds cities into submission and then takes more territory.”Even "journalists" are starting to workout the dire consequences of all this!
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Post by blueshoes on Mar 10, 2022 11:10:44 GMT 10
Just out two hours ago:- The Pentagon has dismissed Poland’s plan to hand its MiG-29 fighter jets to the US, to donate them to Ukraine. The Polish foreign minister, Zbigniew Rau, said his government was “ready to deploy – immediately and free of charge – all their MiG-29 jets to the Ramstein air base and place them at the disposal of the government of the United States of America”, amid intelligence agency warnings that Vladimir Putin is about to “double down” in his invasion. However, the Pentagon appeared to reject the proposal, saying it was not “tenable”. The US Department of Defense said the prospect of the jets departing from a base in Germany “to fly into airspace that is contested with Russia over Ukraine raises serious concerns for the entire Nato alliance”. www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/russia-ukraine-war-what-we-know-on-day-14-of-the-russian-invasion/ar-AAUOg7A?ocid=msedgntpJust like I was saying, Vlad doesn't do "back down" ! Wait, i thought this started because the US was trying to help Ukraine, so they said, "hey Poland, we'll give you US Jets if you give Ukraine your MiG's" and Poland went, "OK Sure" (then apparently, in the interim, Russia made noises that people supplying jets to Ukraine would be counted as part of the enemy and fine to attack) Then last night, the headline from the ABC was 'US rejects Poland's plan to send MiG's to Ukraine', which near the end had a quote from a Poland politician saying effectively "we aren't a combatant in this conflict and we don't want to be either, so we won't supply weapons direct to Ukraine". The plan that was being 'rejected' was apparently for Poland to send planes to Ukraine via Germany then possibly Kosovo (which isn't EU nor NATO). ... huh? They really seem to think it's going to all fizzle down if they just stop helping Ukraine when Russia threatens them, don't they
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Post by Beno on Mar 10, 2022 11:20:26 GMT 10
Poland should just roll them down the highway to ukraine.
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