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Post by SA Hunter on Oct 16, 2022 19:34:45 GMT 10
Just read an unconfirmed report that a missile strike hit Kiev, and that the air raid sirens only went off after the explosions.
Some are wondering if it was a hypersonic missile.
Also Belarus troops, with Russian SF are massing on the Belarus/Ukraine border - maybe trying a second time?
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Post by Tim Horton on Oct 16, 2022 22:59:46 GMT 10
We also heard of conventional (?) (V2 style ?) missiles (3?) exploding.. Claiming to be fired at military targets.. Claimed to have hit civilian things ??
Targeting shots ??
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Post by spatial on Oct 17, 2022 11:40:10 GMT 10
Apparently China is evacuating all citizens from Ukraine. China's foreign ministry on Saturday issued an urgent call for any Chinese nationals still in Ukraine to exit immediately, kicking off speculation over what's behind the unspecified appeal and scramble. The notification is being widely seen as the most forceful evacuation order yet, and suggests that Beijing might be aware of Russian plans for possibly imminent bigger, sweeping airstrikes against Ukrainian cities, such as the widespread escalatory strikes conducted last Monday into Tuesday. www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-orders-evacuation-its-citizens-still-ukraine-sparking-fears-more-escalation |
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Post by bug on Oct 18, 2022 8:54:49 GMT 10
The PRC has been trying to get its citizens to come home from most countries. Concurrently it has been trying to make life as difficult as possible for foreigners in the PRC.
A country in Europe did that in the 1930s too.
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Post by norseman on Jan 21, 2023 5:28:25 GMT 10
This is worth watching if you can spare the time, it blends prepping, improvisation and a heads up on the impact of Ukraine / Russia sanctions:-
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Post by spinifex on Jan 21, 2023 10:05:23 GMT 10
This demonstrates what I've thought for a long time.
Countries that live in the real world of economics (free of Global overlord rules and meddling) can do better than those that persist in preserving a chimera economy based heavily on services like making coffee for each other and cutting each others hair. As an example of how sanctions agaisnt Russia have hurt Australia ... look no further than the collapse of what was the expanding Kangaroo meat export trade. Russia was our biggest market and harvest and processing was steadily rising when thw WTO told us we can no longer send them the product. So the WTO punished one of OUR industries and by default gave the Russian livestock industry a sales boost. Yep ... Good plan WTO!
Russians are now likely not experiencing shortages any worse than we report for our own country as they have adapted and rapidly built their own capacity. AND they have developed their national capability for self sufficiency which insulates them from the cartel behavious of the Global corporations. AND it is bringing their people together to weather a shared hardship.
If those same sanctions were put on Australia ... life as we know it would end in a week. And we have zero capacity to improvise and adapt our way out.
YouTube can go choke itself ... as if cutting monetisation is going to hurt Russians. Thats the sort of "sanction" that would only hurt the US, Canada, Western Europe where Youtubing is considered a Career.
I think the Russo-Ukraine war is daft and wrong ... and the sanctions imposed by the west have most likely strengthened the Russian economy in the long run.
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Post by malewithatail on Jan 21, 2023 11:46:49 GMT 10
Also, the Ruskies are used to supply disruptions and not being able to get things, so sanctions just backfire on the sanctioning country.
You prepped ? Think about the effect such sanctions would have if applied to Australia. Then redouble our prepping efforts.
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Post by Beno on Jan 21, 2023 11:47:38 GMT 10
2 out of 24 kids in my daughters year said their career aspirations were to be youtubers.
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Post by tactile on Jan 21, 2023 12:35:17 GMT 10
This demonstrates what I've thought for a long time. Countries that live in the real world of economics (free of Global overlord rules and meddling) can do better than those that persist in preserving a chimera economy based heavily on services like making coffee for each other and cutting each others hair. As an example of how sanctions agaisnt Russia have hurt Australia ... look no further than the collapse of what was the expanding Kangaroo meat export trade. Russia was our biggest market and harvest and processing was steadily rising when thw WTO told us we can no longer send them the product. So the WTO punished one of OUR industries and by default gave the Russian livestock industry a sales boost. Yep ... Good plan WTO! Russians are now likely not experiencing shortages any worse than we report for our own country as they have adapted and rapidly built their own capacity. AND they have developed their national capability for self sufficiency which insulates them from the cartel behavious of the Global corporations. AND it is bringing their people together to weather a shared hardship. If those same sanctions were put on Australia ... life as we know it would end in a week. And we have zero capacity to improvise and adapt our way out. I think the Russo-Ukraine war is daft and wrong ... and the sanctions imposed by the west have most likely strengthened the Russian economy in the long run. I'm thinking we will do much better out of it than you might think...Everything we export that they export has gone up in price - Gas, Aluminium, grain, Iron, etc etc. Someone else will buy the roo meat, because they wont be getting the Russian/Ukrainian grain. Everyone said the same thing when China stopped buying the wine, barley, seafood etc. - we found other markets for our quality products. We will now find out how smart the guys selling/marketing the roo meat are.
Everyone knew Russia could be self sufficient because they pretty much were under communism...everything will slow down for them though, they buy all their agricultural equipment from the Europe/US so their production will tank when what they have wears out.
We wont be invading anyone soon so I don't know why us getting sanctions is even in the conversation - this is the whole point of them on Russia - you act like a dick and you will get isolated from the rest of the world. China has learned the lesson and they have sacked all the wolf warrior diplomats and are going soft.
I cant see how their economy is going to be better off long or short term - all their major revenue streams are gone.
Russia will exist but not thrive, just like they did post-cold war and like back then, those that want a life will immigrate the rest will become alcoholics.
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Post by spinifex on Jan 21, 2023 13:57:21 GMT 10
This demonstrates what I've thought for a long time. Countries that live in the real world of economics (free of Global overlord rules and meddling) can do better than those that persist in preserving a chimera economy based heavily on services like making coffee for each other and cutting each others hair. As an example of how sanctions agaisnt Russia have hurt Australia ... look no further than the collapse of what was the expanding Kangaroo meat export trade. Russia was our biggest market and harvest and processing was steadily rising when thw WTO told us we can no longer send them the product. So the WTO punished one of OUR industries and by default gave the Russian livestock industry a sales boost. Yep ... Good plan WTO! Russians are now likely not experiencing shortages any worse than we report for our own country as they have adapted and rapidly built their own capacity. AND they have developed their national capability for self sufficiency which insulates them from the cartel behavious of the Global corporations. AND it is bringing their people together to weather a shared hardship. If those same sanctions were put on Australia ... life as we know it would end in a week. And we have zero capacity to improvise and adapt our way out. I think the Russo-Ukraine war is daft and wrong ... and the sanctions imposed by the west have most likely strengthened the Russian economy in the long run.
Everyone knew Russia could be self sufficient because they pretty much were under communism...everything will slow down for them though, they buy all their agricultural equipment from the Europe/US so their production will tank when what they have wears out.
We wont be attacking anyone soon so I do know why us getting sanctions is even in the conversation - this is the whole point of them on Russia - you act like a dick and you will get isolated from the rest of the world. China has learned the lesson and they have sacked all the wolf warrior diplomats and are going soft.
The effect of sanctions on Oz is in the conversation to highlight how massively limited our national economic capabitities are. We don't need sanctions slapped on us to experience this. We already are sufferning shortages, rocketing prices and long wait times on products just under 'normal' conditions. I suspect Russia will start building its own capacity to manufacture Ag and mining equipment to replace western products. They are not the USSR any more ... new businesses will arise to fill market gaps and operate as they do elsewhere in the world. There will not be the ineptitude and waste of the communist era. I wasn't aware China was going soft. That's great news. |
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Post by tactile on Jan 21, 2023 15:39:57 GMT 10
The effect of sanctions on Oz is in the conversation to highlight how massively limited our national economic capabitities are. We don't need sanctions slapped on us to experience this. We already are sufferning shortages, rocketing prices and long wait times on products just under 'normal' conditions. I suspect Russia will start building its own capacity to manufacture Ag and mining equipment to replace western products. They are not the USSR any more ... new businesses will arise to fill market gaps and operate as they do elsewhere in the world. There will not be the ineptitude and waste of the communist era. I wasn't aware China was going soft. That's great news. I get it about the conversation on our manufacturing capability - I agree on the simple stuff like pharma etc. but quality & complex stuff is beyond us unless we automate which we wont invest in - so we will be reliant on products from overseas for a long time yet.
Problem with the Russian future is they have a demographic problem and immigrants don't want to go there...and their eduction system was gutted in the 90s and hasn't been re-built. All their oil/gas infrastructure was built/maintained by foreign companies who have all left...they cant even run what they have. I don't think they have the depth in their society to manufacture anything except weapons - poor ones.
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Post by malewithatail on Jan 21, 2023 17:24:50 GMT 10
70% of our pharmaceuticals come from....China and there is a shortage of antibiotics now, imagine whats gunna happen if WW3 break out.
How do you spot fake honey?
Drop a teaspoon of honey into a glass of water. Fake honey will immediately start to dissolve, whilst raw honey will drop to the bottom of the glass intact. Place a drop of room temperature or cooler honey on your finger, If the 'honey' spreads then it is fake honey.
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Post by tactile on Jan 21, 2023 18:10:17 GMT 10
70% of our pharmaceuticals come from....China and there is a shortage of antibiotics now, imagine whats gunna happen if WW3 break out. We can buy them from other countries perhaps? |
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Post by bce1 on Jan 21, 2023 18:34:05 GMT 10
80-90% of medications in au. are from China or India - they are generally the simple ones like antibiotics and high blood pressure meds.
A couple of percent are locally made - importantly, Tasmania makes 30-40% of the world's supply of morphine!
The rest is a mix of the US and Europe - the more high-tech, the more likely to come from there.
For the most part, the US and Europe make their own simple medications - many of the ones we buy from India and China they make themselves - but even they are having raw material problems because they come from...... India and China !! Plus, they are operating at capacity. So the possibility of them picking up the slack is low.
If there is a significant collapse of international trade if we don't make it, we won't have it.
Many common drugs could be made here, the technology for medication manufacture crosses over with value-adding processing of dairy products so the tech is here
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Post by bushdoc2 on Jan 22, 2023 13:02:37 GMT 10
70% of our pharmaceuticals come from....China and there is a shortage of antibiotics now, imagine whats gunna happen if WW3 break out. How do you spot fake honey? Drop a teaspoon of honey into a glass of water. Fake honey will immediately start to dissolve, whilst raw honey will drop to the bottom of the glass intact. Place a drop of room temperature or cooler honey on your finger, If the 'honey' spreads then it is fake honey. Fake honey also never crystallizes like the real stuff does. |
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Post by malewithatail on Jan 22, 2023 13:16:53 GMT 10
"Fake honey also never crystallizes like the real stuff does. "
Tell me about it, I have 10's KG of candied/crystalized honey from last winter still in buckets here.
Time for some mead !
How much honey can a single bee make in its lifetime?
1 tablespoon
A single bee can produce 1 tablespoon of honey in its lifetime. 683 bees fly roughly 32,550 miles to gather 5.93 lbs of nectar from about 1,185,000 flowers in order to make one 9.5 oz. jar of pure Bees honey!
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Post by spatial on May 23, 2023 15:19:52 GMT 10
Russian Legion: freedom fighters invade many km into Russian territory take over a border post and a number of villages.
It is basically a type of civil war. Helicopters destroyed and a bit of military hardware captured. Receiving many reports form early this morning. Russian residence start a spontaneous evacuation causing traffic jams and buses being sent in.
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Post by tactile on May 23, 2023 16:20:15 GMT 10
Decoy?
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Post by spatial on May 23, 2023 18:26:34 GMT 10
Yes, all sorts of shenanigans and decoys fakes, as getting very close to the overpublished spring counter offensive with all the western weapons they have received and been trained on during the winter. But as always the Russians are found sleeping on the job, counter intelligence poor, reaction poor, Their command and control system where only top officers can make decisions does not work against such sneaky western type tactics. There weaknesses are being well exploited. |
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Post by bce1 on May 23, 2023 18:42:29 GMT 10
I was on a teleconference with someone who knew way more than me about this.
Three three interesting things - 80% of the war is invisible - the west is using technology in anger they have been fantasising about using for real against a standing army for years + there is a massive cyber war going on of a scale that is hard to comprehend. Secondly, a lot of anxiety Zelenskyy will be big trouble in the long term. He is unpredictable, and "his deeper political leanings don't comfortably sit with the West." Plus, lots of NATOs technology and weapons are unaccounted for and not all in Ukraine where they are supposed to be !! Lastly, the propaganda generated and published by mainstream media on both sides would shame WW2 newspapers and radio!
The same person also told me that 5-6 countries would fail completely across East Africa in the next 12-24 months, with huge consequences for the West.
I appreciate this is just gossip, but his position dictated he should be well-informed, so it was an interesting conversation worth reporting!
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