bushdoc2
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Post by bushdoc2 on Jun 25, 2023 9:19:36 GMT 10
From what I recall, Kruschev came to power this way and lost it likewise. Violent or Machiavellian overthrow of leaders is normal in Russia.
Remember Yeltsin and the tanks outside the Kremlin?
Meanwile, inside gossip, in Russia, people are asking the cops, "What do we do?" Cops answer: shrug, "We don't know."
Confusion is the norm is a land so large with controlled internet (internyet).
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Post by Stealth on Jun 25, 2023 12:13:07 GMT 10
I'm absolutely intrigued. The made a whole lot of 'road blockages' that were superficial at best and easily rectified. My favourite was a moveable bridge that they simple disengaged from one side (which would have been quite effective at least in the short term) and then put back where it was supposed to be 15 minutes later;   But then on top of that the sheer lack of anything other than pure theatre. There are heaps more around but these are a few of the 'choice' ones that I found amusing;     I didn't really see much Russian response beyond bare-bones skeleton crew activity. And the 'columns' that I found pictures and videos of looked more like a few dudes with some spare kit. The roadblock videos that I saw were a platoon or two at best of guys with one tank or APC, and all standing around looking bored. Interesting that. I'll warrant that there's photos and videos circulating about helos and columns being attacked (although I saw several sources reporting the same helo pictures as being in totally different regions). Might be worth having a look to see what's being attacked and how cheap and easy it is to replace the things that were attacked. Also keeping in mind that I don't think either Putin or Prigozhin would spare even a glancing thought to a few operators being turned into pink mist for the 'greater good'. 'Wagner' proved that they could move a long way in a real fast time, and now they're just... Signing new contracts with the troops and sending Prigozhin to Belarus with a pat on the bum and a 'now behave yourself, sonny'? Nothing sus *eyeroll*. Also interesting to note that there were more airstrikes on Ukraine last night. Now I'm no planning genius but you'd think that if there was a genuine, credible threat screeching towards your front door, you'd pause your current activities to orient. You'd probably not stop them, but I'd have thought you'd pause at least to take a beat and figure out if that weaponry was required elsewhere. Especially when your previous target was civilian buildings and the threat careening towards you was apparently a battle-hardened military group out for revenge. Mmmm. Nothing sus. |
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Post by ausprep130 on Jun 28, 2023 17:04:25 GMT 10
I think Nate from CP summed it up in one of his daily doom and gloom. - Wagner would not have got anywhere if it weren't for Putin allowing them passage.
Another point Scott Ritter made was that only about 20% of the Wagner forces participated, and they did not have a great deal of supplies with them so any sort of conflict would have been short lived.
Those points suggest to me that it was planned.
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Post by dadbod on Jun 30, 2023 5:47:06 GMT 10
An interesting side plot is the admission that wanger was an arm of the russian government all along... i suspect charges of war crimes and sanctions to be incoming.
also, what does this mean for wagner forces outside of russia...
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Post by norseman on Aug 8, 2023 8:37:31 GMT 10
I always take with a grain of salt this I'm an "ex-spook' "ex-cop" "so I'm infinitely qualified to lecture you" type bullshit. But I think this bloke is on the money here!
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Post by tactile on Aug 8, 2023 8:54:49 GMT 10
One of the biggest issues I have with Americans - you cant talk to them for 5 minutes without them referencing a movie, and 95% of movies are BullS***! And this bloke starts with it right off the bat!
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Post by spinifex on Aug 10, 2023 20:24:09 GMT 10
Can someone direct me to a non-youtube (ie non Ukraine Propaganda) source of video content? I was watching a couple of people trapped in a foxhole under a tank get fragged on youtube the other day. It was bizzare that Pootube puts footage of "Russians" getting slaughtered in cold blood on their platform but if I post footage of myself jacking off in the comfort of my own loungeroom ... its too much. One of those acts is harmless and entertaining and the other is a deadly sin. And the deadly sin is fine to air. F#cken wierd sense of morals. If we all spent more time whacking off and less time shooting each other the world would be a much better place.
Pootube clearly has a policy of "Ukraine is always awesome and winning" ... I wouldn't mind seeing some non-pro-ukraine content so I can attempt to have a balanced view of events over there.
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Post by tactile on Aug 11, 2023 9:20:38 GMT 10
So you want to see people on the other side getting killed instead? OK, there is a smattering of Ukrainian soldiers getting smashed from the Russian perspective on the "Combat Footage" thread on Reddit. Enjoy.
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Post by spinifex on Aug 12, 2023 9:20:43 GMT 10
I suspect you missed the point of my previous post.
There's nothing to be learned from viewing people getting killed. Especially in cold blood, which is what youtube is allowing to be put on their site.
What I'm after is civilian produced content that shows civilian life (and particularly their life hacks) in a war-zone.
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Post by norseman on Aug 12, 2023 9:39:43 GMT 10
Can someone direct me to a non-youtube (ie non Ukraine Propaganda) source of video content? I was watching a couple of people trapped in a foxhole under a tank get fragged on youtube the other day. It was bizzare that Pootube puts footage of "Russians" getting slaughtered in cold blood on their platform but if I post footage of myself jacking off in the comfort of my own loungeroom ... its too much. One of those acts is harmless and entertaining and the other is a deadly sin. And the deadly sin is fine to air. F#cken wierd sense of morals. If we all spent more time whacking off and less time shooting each other the world would be a much better place. Pootube clearly has a policy of "Ukraine is always awesome and winning" ... I wouldn't mind seeing some non-pro-ukraine content so I can attempt to have a balanced view of events over there. My view on all this is the Western generation of and or support for pro-Ukrainian propaganda is *&^#% sickening, to unashamedly allow one side to tell their side of the "story" while denying the other side is a putrid act! Where the sweet faark is the balance in all this? Also just heard on the idiot box Lithgow Small Arms Factory is now manufacturing and sending our Assault Rifles to the Ukraine! |
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Post by tactile on Aug 12, 2023 9:41:41 GMT 10
There was no point to your previous post, now you have one; "What I'm after is civilian produced content that shows civilian life (and particularly their life hacks) in a war-zone."
I suspect this sort of content wont come out until after hostilities and/or people work out they can monetise their story, which will mostly be made up for effect. Just like most of the stuff from the Balkan crapfest.
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Post by malewithatail on Aug 12, 2023 10:31:30 GMT 10
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Post by malewithatail on Aug 13, 2023 8:35:54 GMT 10
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Post by spinifex on Aug 13, 2023 15:38:11 GMT 10
There was no point to your previous post, now you have one; "What I'm after is civilian produced content that shows civilian life (and particularly their life hacks) in a war-zone." I suspect this sort of content wont come out until after hostilities and/or people work out they can monetise their story, which will mostly be made up for effect. Just like most of the stuff from the Balkan crapfest. There were 3 points to my original post. 1. Youtube seems to be a pro-ukraine propaganda tool 2. The "morality" of Youtubes censorship policies is daft. 3. What are the alternative video vieweing platforms to Youtube. |
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Post by SA Hunter on Aug 16, 2023 20:50:13 GMT 10
Post removed by me - please keep it within our guidelines.
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Post by SA Hunter on Aug 16, 2023 20:52:11 GMT 10
I watch over a dozen sites on Telegram - some Independent, some pro Russian.
I can send you a pm if interested.
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Post by tactile on Aug 17, 2023 16:43:30 GMT 10
Post removed by me - please keep it within our guidelines. You might want to go back and have a look at some of the previous posts SA, I was quoting, not accusing. |
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Post by norseman on Feb 10, 2024 10:33:32 GMT 10
Any ADF or military buffs here? My question is would a shooting war actually succeed? It seems armies have all the gear but how many days of shooting consumables to they have to wage a war? Look at the production and logistics of ww1 and 2 and see the huge quantity of consumables needed to keep it going. I just can’t see a super power shooting war going on for long before ammo and rockets run out. We are not shooting at goat herders this time. The Ukrainians are running out of everything while the Russians are being Russians and learning, adapting and overcoming just like they did in WW2! Zelensky is looking like a serious desperado while Putin appears mostly comfortable with his position and is pushing forward! Hey Youtube folks where did all the pro Ukranian propaganda shite disappear to and what the fargg is going down with the flood of positive Russian sentiment after the Tucker Carlson interview? |
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Post by malewithatail on Feb 10, 2024 11:41:21 GMT 10
When the 'soft' ammo runs out, then its time for the 'hard' ammo, nukes. Question is, who fires first ? Wont matter after the first shot as its all over red rover.
And yes I believe those in charge have such big egos they would prefer the world reduced to a smoking radio active dead end rather than show 'weakness' and not retaliate. That in my book shows true leadership and strength, to turn the other cheek......
Look who there is, in Biden a geriatric who doesn't even know what day it is, and Putin, sharp as a tack, but very insecure in his position. I suspect if Putin doesn't show such a hard face, he is dead, assassinated from within.
Mr Carlson may be in trouble, I expect him to be knocked off soon, as he raised too many reasonable arguments and showed Putin to be in full command of what he is doing, and Biden to be a puppet of the establishment. If that's the best America can put forward, we are all in deep doggie do do.
If it does come to nukes flying around, I hope one goes off directly above us...........Prepared or not, life afterwards is going to be impossible, at least for some years until the radioactivity has decayed to 'safe' levels. I think I will go and check the battery's in my Geiger counter.
If at first you do succeed, try not to look too astonished.
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Post by Tim Horton on Feb 10, 2024 12:38:52 GMT 10
This latest ...insight... seems to fit in with a lot of what is said lately...
Carlson.... It isn't impossible he could be ...Clintonized... in a tragic suicidal ...accident..
Thoughts ??
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