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Post by frostbite on Oct 11, 2022 19:29:13 GMT 10
I read the article about the EV utes. Range 350 to 400km, unless you're towing, then significantly less range. They suggest in the article that EV utes only suitable for town, in rural areas diesel will continue to be the better option.
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Post by bug on Oct 13, 2022 7:53:25 GMT 10
Let the sheep pay. Everyone on here should already have solar and will be fine.
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Post by Tim Horton on Oct 23, 2022 22:42:00 GMT 10
Yesterday I saw a short video of a Dewalt brand EV zero turn lawn mower they were demonstrating at a trade show somewhere...
It burned to a crisp.....
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Post by malewithatail on Oct 24, 2022 7:32:52 GMT 10
The real range for these electric Utes is somewhere around 150 km, counting the inevitable hills.
Too right Bug, all preppers should be set up by now with solar or alternative power source. Its rapidly coming to the climax of civilization.
Independent water, waste disposal, food resupply plan, defense, and an alternative heat source as well.
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Post by ausprep130 on Oct 24, 2022 14:15:01 GMT 10
For now electric vehicles may appear to be cheap to operate but that won't be the case forever. And the average person won't be able to charge it via solar either. Purpose built car chargers will be connected to smart meters and allow energy companies to charge a premium for car charging, and probably more during peak.
People may recall a similar model when solar panels were first adopted. Energy companies paid quite well for solar going back into the grid when there were a small number with solar. As more people adopted solar the price offered to buy back the solar energy was reduced and now it's bugger all if any. Energy companies are there to make profit and will not allow the masses to get free energy. They will instruct government to outlaw solar car charging under the guise of ensuring safety.
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Post by malewithatail on Oct 24, 2022 16:11:09 GMT 10
For now electric vehicles may appear to be cheap to operate but that won't be the case forever. And the average person won't be able to charge it via solar either. Purpose built car chargers will be connected to smart meters and allow energy companies to charge a premium for car charging, and probably more during peak. People may recall a similar model when solar panels were first adopted. Energy companies paid quite well for solar going back into the grid when there were a small number with solar. As more people adopted solar the price offered to buy back the solar energy was reduced and now it's bugger all if any. Energy companies are there to make profit and will not allow the masses to get free energy. They will instruct government to outlaw solar car charging under the guise of ensuring safety. Much the same as solar feedback tariff is now. Paying a pittance for your power, as its being fed back in when it isn't really needed, before dark. Now, work out how to capture solar energy and feed it back after dark and you have a product to sell. Thought, all these electric cars with battery's in them, why not use the battery to support the grid during peak hours and give the customer a rebate, or cheap power to charge it during off peak, overnight. Now there's an idea, too logical though, wont work. Off grid and be responsible for your own power supply, and manage your usage yourself without Govt interference. Thats a thought |
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Post by malewithatail on Oct 24, 2022 16:12:51 GMT 10
.“Every landing that you walk away from is a good landing. If you can reuse the plane, it was a great landing.” ~ David Samson
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Post by Tim Horton on Oct 24, 2022 18:36:02 GMT 10
Going on about 3 years now (?) there have been 2 locations for EV recharge in Pot Hole City... One with 4 hook ups, the other with 6 hook ups I think.. Only once at each station have I seen a car charging... That being a year or more ago now...
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Post by dadbod on Oct 25, 2022 12:57:41 GMT 10
For now electric vehicles may appear to be cheap to operate but that won't be the case forever. And the average person won't be able to charge it via solar either. Purpose built car chargers will be connected to smart meters and allow energy companies to charge a premium for car charging, and probably more during peak. People may recall a similar model when solar panels were first adopted. Energy companies paid quite well for solar going back into the grid when there were a small number with solar. As more people adopted solar the price offered to buy back the solar energy was reduced and now it's bugger all if any. Energy companies are there to make profit and will not allow the masses to get free energy. They will instruct government to moutlaw solar car charging under the guise of ensuring safety. I think thats a simplistic view on the pricing and not entirely accurate, or atleast not the whole picture. The efficiency and scale has drastically increased leading to greater supply and companies spreading the costs of their operating models. EVs are only going to get cheaper as every brand shifts to them. $2.40/L of diesel is a pretty good motivator to adapt to the future model. The point of solar and batteries is, in my opinion, to avoid having these companies say these things to you. there is no way that they will outlaw solar car charging. if anything it may go the other way where available. multidirectional chargers are a thing, and batteries can and do supply power to the grid off peak when the sun isnt shining. I know from my own system. |
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Post by bug on Oct 27, 2022 10:27:48 GMT 10
'Will' is a strong word and in this case speculation. As EVs gain numbers, it becomes politically unviable to do this. There is already pushback on the Vic government's EV tax by both the federal govt and the state opposition.
Energy companies are also easy targets for governments looking for an easy target. Energy companies are also unable to go against AEMO and AEMO have repeatedly stated that they want EVs on the grid to be used as a distributed grid system. No electricity company has the ability to stop you from charging from your own solar. People keep talking about this, but not one person has been able to provide any solid evidence of it.
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Post by SA Hunter on Oct 27, 2022 10:35:45 GMT 10
Check out insurance costs on EVs - up to $8000/yr
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Post by bug on Oct 27, 2022 10:49:50 GMT 10
Check out insurance costs on EVs - up to $8000/yr Not surprising. Low numbers on the road = low numbers of qualified mechanics = low holdings of spares. This is likely to come down in the future, as more are on the road. It will be the remaining ICE vehicles that start to see their supply chains disappear which will see increasing insurance costs. |
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Post by spatial on Oct 28, 2022 12:43:47 GMT 10
www.zerohedge.com/technology/watch-tesla-gas-generator-range-extender-completes-1800-mile-tripWatch: Tesla With Gas-Generator Range Extender Completes 1,800-Mile Trip Recent comments from Elon Musk show that the 'green' billionaire still believes in fossil fuels, at least in the "short-term," to keep society moving. One YouTuber has taken Musk's comment to heart and created a gas-powered range extender for his Tesla.
YouTube channel Warped Perception said in the video's description he built the "first ever Cordless Tesla" powered by a small gas power plant generator on the back of his Model S.
"This is the first version of the cordless Tesla which is burning gasoline to charge the car instead of the conventional plug-in charger," said Matt Mikka, who runs the YouTube channel.
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Post by malewithatail on Oct 28, 2022 12:47:00 GMT 10
An some insurance companies prohibit you from parking your fire starter, sorry Tesla, in your attached garage.
Thanks to these gifts from God, all the resources humanity needs to achieve abundance and end suffering already exist around us and are nearly free for humanity to harness. When these resources are properly harnessed, every human being can be healthy, wealthy, abundant, clothed and nourished. No one needs to suffer from scarcity.
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Post by bug on Oct 28, 2022 16:52:52 GMT 10
Wonder if there's a youtube video for every time a petrol car runs out? OMFGDFGFGGG!!! LOOK!!! This petrol car ran out of petrol and there's no petrol station where it happenneed! An EV had to go get a fuel jerry for it!!!!!
Yeah, probably not. Might have something to do with EVs now being a proven technology and watching those who cling on to the obsolete tech trying desperately to tear it down.
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Post by ausprep130 on Nov 3, 2022 18:27:03 GMT 10
ABC had article tonight about inner city residents unable to charge their car.
And a company has teamed up with the local council to provide a "glorified extension lead" from the house that goes under the footpath and pops up out near the kerb. Cost $6000 and yearly fee to the council, plus residents pay the electric bill.
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Post by bug on Nov 4, 2022 8:02:04 GMT 10
ABC had article tonight about inner city residents unable to charge their car. And a company has teamed up with the local council to provide a "glorified extension lead" from the house that goes under the footpath and pops up out near the kerb. Cost $6000 and yearly fee to the council, plus residents pay the electric bill. Yeah I saw that. It's really only for inner city residents who bought a car but have no garage. Not the most practical thing. You wouldn't be guarranteed that parking spot every time, so occasionally would need to go to a regular recharge point. There will be many different trials of this kind of thing before it's done right and becomes a standard. |
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Post by ausprep130 on Nov 4, 2022 11:39:49 GMT 10
ABC had article tonight about inner city residents unable to charge their car. And a company has teamed up with the local council to provide a "glorified extension lead" from the house that goes under the footpath and pops up out near the kerb. Cost $6000 and yearly fee to the council, plus residents pay the electric bill. Yeah I saw that. It's really only for inner city residents who bought a car but have no garage. Not the most practical thing. You wouldn't be guaranteed that parking spot every time, so occasionally would need to go to a regular recharge point. There will be many different trials of this kind of thing before it's done right and becomes a standard. Maybe that's why the council charge a yearly rate - for guaranteeing the car space?? OR maybe the council just wants to cash in  Either way I think it is just a matter of time until everybody has to pay a fee to install an approved charger, and pay regular fees to confirm it is operating properly - like they do with home water treatment systems that replaced septic systems. Still don't understand why septics are not allowed anymore but that's another topic. |
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Post by bug on Nov 4, 2022 13:34:03 GMT 10
To be fair on the council, if someone is installing something on council property, it would be reasonable that a fee be payable. Council would need to verify and nominate the location to ensure it does not unreasonably block footpath access.
Most of the taxes put forward for EVs are horseshit, but this one does make sense.
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